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Delboy75

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Turned over 85 minutes. Couldn’t see them scoring 1 let alone 2 ? Pep is lucky there’s no obvious alternative or otherwise I’d definitely start to think it was time for a change if CL is really the owners biggest aim. But domestically so good would be a hard call as owner, but really right now who would you get.
 

GMI

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Turned over 85 minutes. Couldn’t see them scoring 1 let alone 2 ? Pep is lucky there’s no obvious alternative or otherwise I’d definitely start to think it was time for a change if CL is really the owners biggest aim. But domestically so good would be a hard call as owner, but really right now who would you get.
Potter? ?
 

hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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Best Champions League team (in my lifetime at least) vs. Best team in the world on current form is the Final it should be.

Fuck City.
 

1882andallthat

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The City owners have made no secret of the fact that they crave the Champions League. What has Guardiola got to show for having 6 consecutive go's at it with an embarrassment of money at his disposal and spending over those cumulative six years that hasn't been anywhere near matched by anyone, by some considerable distance, and what has he got to show for it ? 1 runners up medal, which is exactly the same as us and we never had 6 consecutive go's at it and spent a fraction of what he's had.

He is too clever for his own good, he seems to think that he can buy literally every attacking midfielder in the world with endless money and they will walk the ball into the net or score the perfect tippy tappy eye of the needle goals. He constantly ignores the need for the obvious, a world class goal poacher / striker or a really clinical finisher and he's paying the price. Never has this arrogant stupidity been emphasised more openly in his and the clubs stubborn refusal to pay the money for Kane, yet at the same time he splurges £100 million on Grealish who is a glorified fancy dan sub. Kulusevski is significantly more effective than he is at a fraction of the price, and so is Jarrod Bowen for West Ham.

Whilst I've no time for Liverpool, pound for pound he has well and truly been shown up by Klopp at Liverpool who has won both the Premier League and CL and World Club titles. He has 3 CL finals to show for it by spending far less than he has. Klopp sees the need for clinical finishers and it shows and he is reaping the rewards over a similar 6 year period whilst Guardiola is an overpaid over financed flat track domestic title magnet who can't cut it at the very highest lnternational level with City.

He should try managing Burnley or Gillingham with little to no resources. Would he keep Burnley in the PL without an embarrassment of riches ? I think not.
 

spursfan77

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On a domestic point of view he absolutely shouldn't be fired.

But if City's big goal is to win the CL then there is certainly a case because it's likely he isn't going to do it with them.

An incredible coach but he does seem to overthink or tinker things too much at the wrong moment.

I felt City had to win big last week, as soon as they passed up chances I knew Madrid would come into it.

His City team simply can't manage these games.

They can’t defend. That’s their problem. Either that or there’s an arrogance that they think the job is done before it is. It’s why Liverpool will beat them to the title unfortunately
 

Dougal

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Trix

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There's always been a reluctance to do anything in football that makes the top level game in any way different from the lowest of low grassroots games. Just look how long it took to get simple goal line tech.
Except how the players can talk to the ref.
 

Trix

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Thats his weakness, he's allowed to be.

Football is a simple game.

They need a decent forward.
Their problem isn't, not scoring enough goals. The problem is Pep, and only having one way of playing regardless of how the match is balanced. He is excellent at getting them to play how they do, but shutting up shop? They just don't know how to do it. They have to keep attacking for 90 minutes or they are ineffective.
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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City struggle with in game management of closing games out, I wonder what their owners must be thinking they wanted this trophy by now.
 

Trix

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City struggle with in game management of closing games out, I wonder what their owners must be thinking they wanted this trophy by now.
I think the problem is who else could they realistically replace him with? The only one really is Klopp and he's not going there. Anyone else and they are gambling with their domestic status in pursuit of the CL.
 

GMI

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I think the problem is who else could they realistically replace him with? The only one really is Klopp and he's not going there. Anyone else and they are gambling with their domestic status in pursuit of the CL.
Whether they could get Tuchel out of Chelsea? Whatever manager they subsequently go for it will be a big task as they play in such a specific manor.
 
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He is too clever for his own good, he seems to think that he can buy literally every attacking midfielder in the world with endless money and they will walk the ball into the net or score the perfect tippy tappy eye of the needle goals. He constantly ignores the need for the obvious, a world class goal poacher / striker or a really clinical finisher and he's paying the price. Never has this arrogant stupidity been emphasised more openly in his and the clubs stubborn refusal to pay the money for Kane, yet at the same time he splurges £100 million on Grealish who is a glorified fancy dan sub. Kulusevski is significantly more effective than he is at a fraction of the price, and so is Jarrod Bowen for West Ham.

To be fair to Pep, I don't think that's on him. I think that's Txiki.

Nothing has been more consistent for City than buying over-priced bench warming HG players. Scott Sinclair, Rodwell, Ake. I never know exactly where Stones fits in tbh - they seem to blow hot and cold over him.

They don't really seem to spent as much as some teams on their first 11 - it's mostly crappy squad players like Bony and some of the above. I just don't see Pep being behind transfers, otherwise he'd have signed Kane and Messi - two players he hasn't stopped being thirsty over since he joined them.
 

dirtyh

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Jun 24, 2011
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absolutely beautiful. shows what elite mentality can do for you.

lets do the scousers to end their quad hopes then watch modric and benzema tear them a new one in the final with bale coming off the bench to score.

today is a great day.
 

Westmorlandspur

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Madrid killed that second half of extra time just by feigning injury and time wasting tactics. It was crap to watch but that is sometimes what you need to do to kill the match when you are leading.
Grealish and Foden looking around not believing what was going on.they seem quite naive in these big games. Not that Fernandinho can’t get involved in this sort of thing.
Would have been an interesting shoot out as all the best players had been taken off.
Bale was conspicuous by his absence from celebrations. Was he even on the bench.
 

topper

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Jan 27, 2008
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Madrid killed that second half of extra time just by feigning injury and time wasting tactics. It was crap to watch but that is sometimes what you need to do to kill the match when you are leading.
Grealish and Foden looking around not believing what was going on.they seem quite naive in these big games. Not that Fernandinho can’t get involved in this sort of thing.
Would have been an interesting shoot out as all the best players had been taken off.
Bale was conspicuous by his absence from celebrations. Was he even on the bench.
Nope - probably clashed with a round of floodlit golf
 
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