Transfer Discussion Thread

[Joshua]

Let me throw in the ‘colly-wobbles’
Summer window, as things stand, there is next to no money. We will try to offload as much players as possible, that Josè does not like (as things stand) and use those for funding. VC we will not be doing a perm, but if possibility of extending the loan we may be interested. But that is not set in stone. You can good as guess who we are prepared to let go. We would entertain offers for Doherty.

Tbf we didn’t sell anyone of note in the last window besides KWP and still had a pretty good outlay so that’s not too much of a surprise to hear there aren’t funds as of right now. The squads bloated as things stand so if we can get rid of 5-6 players then use that income to sign 2-3 of quality alongside Skipp and Sessegnon returning to the squad then I think that would be a good window.

 

[delawarespur]

We need to figure out a way to bring Sven Botman & Jules Kounde to partner at CB for Spurs. Thats CB sorted for the next 10 years.

Would be the perfect pairing. Unfortunately kounde would still cost 50m plus this summer even with COVID

 

[Aphex]

The problem is I just don't know who will come in for our players. Such a shame that we are now saddled with Doherty who is nearly 30, is pony and is going to clog up a RB space. We really had a mare at RB the last few years. Should have kept KWP and spent more money on PEH. Nobody will come in for him this summer.

The other issue is the price Levy will demand for players. Clubs won't have cash to splash so he isn't going to see his asking prices met. I just hope we can offload the likes of Moura, Doherty, Winks, Dier, Sanchez, Davies. We really are in a problematic position with regards to offloading..

I would do this

Doherty out RB in
Davies out Sess in
Sanchez out CB in
Dier out CB in
Winks out Sabitzer in
Skipp back
Moura out RWF in
Vinicius out Ings in.

That is 6 out, 6 signings.

Seems unrealistic.

 

[tottenhamlad]

Kane
From what I am hearing he is not going anywhere this summer. Neither is he wanting to. I know things change, so fingers, toes crossed and all that.

Thanks for the reassurance mate. Its my biggest worry.

 

[DiVaio]

The problem is I just don't know who will come in for our players. Such a shame that we are now saddled with Doherty who is nearly 30, is pony and is going to clog up a RB space. We really had a mare at RB the last few years. Should have kept KWP and spent more money on PEH. Nobody will come in for him this summer.

He's homegrown in Premier League, he could be relatively cheap and I bet two very good seasons at Wolves would be more important than one mediocre at Spurs for potential buyer, there are some some other clubs using wingbacks so yeah, I would be surprised if nobody would come in for him.

 

[wiggo24]

Thanks for the reassurance mate. Its my biggest worry.

Agreed.

1) Kane leaving Spurs.
2) Continued spread of COVID leading to the eventual collapse of capitalism and the slow eroding of democracy in an era of social media and corruption.

As it should be.

 

[tottenhamlad]

Don't bloody start with covid ?

 

[Chirpystheman]

don't think anyone would want to be our back up striker

Ings would come if we are his best option. He could play with Kane in the 10 role. He would get a big payrise to come and can only see a team like arsenal going for him. Everyone else seems to have eyes on bigger fish. He would get plenty of game time because he's good enough too.

 

[Chirpystheman]

I think people need to look at our keeper situation. All 4 of our keepers are out of contract 2022. I fully expect Gazza and Hugo to be sold this summer. Whiteman given an extension and a new number 1 bought in. Aurier contract is up next year as is Lamelas. Fully expect both to be moved on.

Outside of those players you have to look at those surplus to requirements. Winks has moaned publicly about playing time and will want to be in WC squad if he misses out on the euros I fully expect him to move on. If someone is interested in taking sissoko off our hands sell him Davies can be sold if they believe Sess is ready to compete in that position. Its glaringly obvious how much we lose on the left attacking wise when reggie is out. I wouldn't be sad if we sold Toby sanchez and Dier. Too many errors these days. Best bet is see who nibbles and sell 2 ideally Toby and Sanchez go. Bale and Vinny do not renew their deals. Moura and Bergwijn can stay for now unless there is reasonable offers. Alli is an interesting one. Think a loan with a decent option fee is the way to go on this unless Poch wants to do us a deal. Might get more value for him in a year if he can rediscover his form.

As for incomings our starting XI doesn't need much.

Lloris
Reggie
Dier
New CB
New Rb
PEH
NDOMBELE
GLC
Son
Kabe
New RW

Who we could attract God only knows as depends totally on what we bring in. There are some big names who are entering their final season. Sabitzer who would be a great option, brozovic would be another work horse in midfield. Dream signing for the RW would be Dybala. We got close before. I know not much money floating about but surely some deals to be done as these clubs won't want to lose these players for nothing a year later as none want to tie themselves in for mega contracts. The Milik deal marseille done is a very interesting one and one we should be trying to replicate. Hopefully we get crowds back in for the start of next season. Can see it as they said they expect everyone to have been offered first vaccine by September. So have to be hopeful. That would be a game changer as the rest of Europe is quite a way behind so will really be feeling the pinch.

 

[SpursSince1980]

This summer window, we are hardly the only team without two pennies to rub together. It will be a pretty level playing field, except for the billionaire play thing clubs.

With that in mind, I can see this being the most unique window in decades. Free transfers, loans and low bidding on players with 1 yr left on their contract will be commonplace. I also think, we will see something akin to trading players. For example... let's say we wanted to go after Vestergaard. We may offer a tiny bit of money, but in return we sell or loan a player or players that offset the costs. In short: horse trading.

For me, there are four or five positions that are important... and in this priority:

1. Domineering CB x2
2. New RB
3. Attacking midfielder/attacker
4. Goalie [if Lloris leaves]

I'm guessing we are willing to listen and opine on offers for the following players:

Lloris... again, if a team like PSG offer silly money it will make sense.
Toby
Tanganga... on loan.
Aurier
Doherty
Winks
Sissoko
Dele
Lamela
Lucas
Davies ... depending on whether we intend to play a back 3 or 4. If 4, he is no longer needed, as we have two LBs... Reg and Sess.
Sanchez... a good example of a player that can be leveraged in a swap-like scenario.

Right now I feel like we only have 4 defenders who we can say with some certainty will stay: Dier, Rodon, Reg and Sess.

For CM we have PEH, Lo Celso, Tanguy and Skippy

We may need to look for a new 10, or Dele steps up... or Tanguy or Lo Celso step into that role... which then means we would need a new CM too.

Gonna be a whole lotta pragmatism needed this summer.

 

[Chirpystheman]

We need to be bold. Loans with obligations should be the way forward. Players with 1 year left on season loan with obligation. Means we can offer slightly higher fee as it will be down the road. No one has much cash yet these teams won't want to lose these players for nothing.

 

[Gardham90]

I think people need to look at our keeper situation. All 4 of our keepers are out of contract 2022. I fully expect Gazza and Hugo to be sold this summer. Whiteman given an extension and a new number 1 bought in. Aurier contract is up next year as is Lamelas. Fully expect both to be moved on.

Outside of those players you have to look at those surplus to requirements. Winks has moaned publicly about playing time and will want to be in WC squad if he misses out on the euros I fully expect him to move on. If someone is interested in taking sissoko off our hands sell him Davies can be sold if they believe Sess is ready to compete in that position. Its glaringly obvious how much we lose on the left attacking wise when reggie is out. I wouldn't be sad if we sold Toby sanchez and Dier. Too many errors these days. Best bet is see who nibbles and sell 2 ideally Toby and Sanchez go. Bale and Vinny do not renew their deals. Moura and Bergwijn can stay for now unless there is reasonable offers. Alli is an interesting one. Think a loan with a decent option fee is the way to go on this unless Poch wants to do us a deal. Might get more value for him in a year if he can rediscover his form.

As for incomings our starting XI doesn't need much.

Lloris
Reggie
Dier
New CB
New Rb
PEH
NDOMBELE
GLC
Son
Kabe
New RW

Who we could attract God only knows as depends totally on what we bring in. There are some big names who are entering their final season. Sabitzer who would be a great option, brozovic would be another work horse in midfield. Dream signing for the RW would be Dybala. We got close before. I know not much money floating about but surely some deals to be done as these clubs won't want to lose these players for nothing a year later as none want to tie themselves in for mega contracts. The Milik deal marseille done is a very interesting one and one we should be trying to replicate. Hopefully we get crowds back in for the start of next season. Can see it as they said they expect everyone to have been offered first vaccine by September. So have to be hopeful. That would be a game changer as the rest of Europe is quite a way behind so will really be feeling the pinch.

I'm sorry but we will not do anything next season with Dier still starting at CB. He's just not good enough.

 

[Chirpystheman]

I'm sorry but we will not do anything next season with Dier still starting at CB. He's just not good enough.

True. I put dier in there as expect of the 3 CBs surplus he's the least likely to go. As I think he'd rather bin off Toby and Sanchez. Also don't underestimate the effect a top draw CB alongside him would do. Look back at Dawson. Alongside King his game was infinitely better than when not with him. We need 2 CBs ideally one really dominant leader and another one with potential but who is further along his journey.

 

[Aphex]

True. I put dier in there as expect of the 3 CBs surplus he's the least likely to go. As I think he'd rather bin off Toby and Sanchez. Also don't underestimate the effect a top draw CB alongside him would do. Look back at Dawson. Alongside King his game was infinitely better than when not with him. We need 2 CBs ideally one really dominant leader and another one with potential but who is further along his journey.

I don't see how having a top drawer CB next to Dier will stop Dier losing concentration, being clumsy and making mistakes. Dawson was ten times the CB Dier will ever be.

Dawson played at a time when England had about 8 world class CBs, including Ferdinand, Campbell, Terry etc so even King couldn't get many games for England. Dier gets games for England (which skews how people think he's better than he is) because England don't have a single world class CB, but don't get it twisted, Dier isn't fit to lace his boots. If Dawson played now he'd be a shoe in for England IMO and Dawson was always focused and wasn't error prone like Dier is.

With regards to selling, I think we are better off keeping Toby as he is the best CB we have still and won't actually bring in much money if we sold him. Surely we'd be best selling Dier and Sanchez and bringing in much more money, and replacing with a top CB.

 

[Chirpystheman]

Think you are being a little harsh on Dier. As I said preferably 2 new CBs and I tried to give some reasoning as for why Dier was in there. Ideally lloris wouldn't be in there either and although I want him sold.in the summer don't expect him to be. If it makes you feel better put Rodon in there instead of Dier

 

[Dirtysanchez6]

He's homegrown in Premier League, he could be relatively cheap and I bet two very good seasons at Wolves would be more important than one mediocre at Spurs for potential buyer, there are some some other clubs using wingbacks so yeah, I would be surprised if nobody would come in for him.

Offer him to Brighton ... cash and Doherty for lamptey he would prob suit them

 

[cliff jones]

I don’t think we are as far off as many of you worry we are.

Three quality signings in the summer funded by Dier, Winks, Dele going out would do the trick. Ings has to be one, so Kane has trusted back up.

Neuhaus or Sabitzer another.

Good if the mew CB could be hg, I like Webster as well as White at Brighton.

We won’t be winning big trophies but we would have a good shot at fourth, while we are waiting for the stadium to start generating revenue again.

But the biggest question is of course whether to let Jose and the current recruitment team conduct this overhaul. Apart from PEH, and maybe Reggie, last summers work wasn’t good, was it?

 

[aussiespursguy]

I don’t think we are as far off as many of you worry we are.

Three quality signings in the summer funded by Dier, Winks, Dele going out would do the trick. Ings has to be one, so Kane has trusted back up.

Neuhaus or Sabitzer another.

Good if the mew CB could be hg, I like Webster as well as White at Brighton.

We won’t be winning big trophies but we would have a good shot at fourth, while we are waiting for the stadium to start generating revenue again.

But the biggest question is of course whether to let Jose and the current recruitment team conduct this overhaul. Apart from PEH, and maybe Reggie, last summers work wasn’t good, was it?

I agree with what you are saying, however Dele I'm not sure of. It will really depend if Jose is still with us for the start of next season. I think Levy is unwilling to part with an asset of his quality in a market like this, as well as if Jose is not here, what can the new manager do with Dele. Maybe he gets the spark he needed. Can't see Dele leaving other than if Jose is here and even then a loan.

Lets not forget it seems we need a new Keeper as well. We cannot mess that up. And we wont have a lot for everything we need. Whoever is in charge will need to get this next window right.

 

[rabbikeane]

If we can't sign the 50m defenders, and with Højbjerg already essential. I wonder if it could be wise to build a solid danish defensive unit teaming him with Joachim Andersen and Jannik Vestergaard. Both Premier League proven to a point - Andersen impressive with Fulham on loan from Lyon. Has the passing range of Alderweireld. Both tall, Vestergaard I believe the tallest there is of Premier League centre backs. Must be a reason Lyon loan out Andersen, while Vestergaard is just contracted until 2022 and been some rumors about taking a step up.

 

[MillerT]

Honestly regardless of whether Kane wanted to leave or not, can't see any big clubs shelling out the huge fee required this summer. The traditional big clubs have all been hit financially due to covid, which leaves just the oil clubs, and can't for the life of me see him at City or PSG (despite poch).