The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!

[Shadydan]

Poch's interviews are starting to get on my nerves. The man keeps hinting we may be signing players. I miss the days of Harry but he would always be honest wth how close transfers are.

Yeah really miss the days he'd rund his mouth and make our club look like complete amateurs

 

[Barry Mead]

Barry,

Not often I disagree with you on, football matters anyway ;-), but I thought that the general 'informed' view was it was Mr Lewis pushing for MP and that he (MP) was not DL's preferred choice.

Best wishes,

Tony

I heard it said too, but how true it is is another matter, as chairman, particularly someone who has always seemingly made all the big decisions you have to think if it was Lewis's idea and he didn't really agree with it then he could have found reasons to change his mind

Lets be fair neither Lewis or Levy seem the type to want a manager to come in and turn over half the squad particularly when in doing so they would have taken a loss on a number

But it's true we never know who makes certain decisions, however a chairman should be strong enough to challenge suggestions on how to run the club by the main shareholder, likewise a good manager/coach should be strong enough to get the chairman to obtain his preferred players rather than have the chairman's choice forced on him

 

[tonyc]

I must need my dinner: I find I'm starting to agree with you a little bit again, Barry! in particular the bit highlighted below

I heard it said too, but how true it is is another matter, as chairman, particularly someone who has always seemingly made all the big decisions you have to think if it was Lewis's idea and he didn't really agree with it then he could have found reasons to change his mind

Lets be fair neither Lewis or Levy seem the type to want a manager to come in and turn over half the squad particularly when in doing so they would have taken a loss on a number

But it's true we never know who makes certain decisions, however a chairman should be strong enough to challenge suggestions on how to run the club by the main shareholder, likewise a good manager/coach should be strong enough to get the chairman to obtain his preferred players rather than have the chairman's choice forced on him

This is now REALLY beginning to get to me.

ALL the effort we as a club have put in to getting the right coaches in to train the academy players,
signing what seem now to be a whole swathe of technically gifted players across the age groups
the general feeling among people incl Liam Brady and KingSRV iirc who posts in the youth thread who know more about youth football than about just their own clubs,
the number of youth internationals we have across various levels...

and we now have a manager whose main focus seems to be fitness and the ability of the player/s to run about a lot and for 90 minutes, almost the complete opposite of ALL the club has tried to do to lift levels of ability.

I posted in a different thread a few months back that I had serious concerns that the present coach and his scouting team seem to think very little indeed of the quality of our youth teams: why else would Oduwa, outstanding in pre-season, be sent out on loan FOR THE SEASON, Azzaoui leaving when we sign two young players in his postion ahead of him, Veljkovic on loan the season coz Wimmer brought in, Fredericks leaving and KWP blocked now with DeYed and Trippier there: and I'm not saying the purchses are rubbish BUT our homegrown lads may have a better change of settling in quickly than all these overseas players.

Like I said: it is really beginning to get to me. I get the youngsters are not all ready now but will it take Marcus Edwards leaving for peanuts before the senior club hierarchy wake up to the fact the playing staff are being mismanaged to SUCH a degree that we would perhaps waste our golden generation AND empty the coffers at the same time?

 

[NEVILLEB]

Nothing to worry about with Poch.

The only weakness we have is not having quality in certain positions.

Hopefully Levy will sort this out.

 

[danielneeds]

Nothing to worry about with Poch.

The only weakness we have is not having quality in certain positions.

Hopefully Levy will sort this out.

Wish he'd be more proactive with the subs though. It was clear Mason was blowing from 70 mins, why give Pritch only 5?

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Barry,

Not often I disagree with you on, football matters anyway ;-), but I thought that the general 'informed' view was it was Mr Lewis pushing for MP and that he (MP) was not DL's preferred choice.

Best wishes,

Tony

Oh? This is news to me. Who was first choice?

 

[NEVILLEB]

We currently have one striker due to the usual last minute transfer strategy.

The huge pressure on Kane's shoulders could damage his confidence early in the season.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Still believe Poch is the right man for the job, but he needs the right tools to do it properly.
Levy and Co need to step up. A starting CM to move Dier back to his natural defence role, plus a backup CF to ease the load on Kane. No more square pegs in round holes, let's have players to suit the system in natural positions. Going into a league game with no CF on the bench because we don't have any, is not good enough for a club of our aspirations.
Equally for his part, Poch needs to get a bit more proactive with his use of substitutions.

Get those two sorted, and I feel we are in as a good a position as we've been for a long long time. Natural balance and depth in the squad, good youngsters coming through, and a manager not afraid to use them.
COYS

 

[Franchise60]

Support the fucking manager

 

[Franchise60]

The idea that Joe Lewis made Levy hire Poch against his wishes is beyond the most basic levels of logic.

That's some serious mental gymnastics to allow yourself to bash Poch while not laying the blame at Levys feet for hiring him.

 

[voxy28]

Poch seems to to stick to his 4231 with no changes to the formation in the last 15min. Is he a one system manager?

 

[TwanYid]

Oh? This is news to me. Who was first choice?

Levy: Benitez

Baldini: FDB

Lewis: Poch

This was what was alleged back when the decision was being made.

 

[NEVILLEB]

The fact is we have a disjointed squad which is heavily reliant on kids.

Despite that, we have still managed to outplay a lot of teams this season.

What we lack in the final third should soon be fixed by Levy in the transfer market.

I really am not worried about our Manager nor do I think they make as much impact as our player recruitment strategy. Members are quick to blame Managers for poor football but it's the players who go out and perform on the pitch.

If you want to blame something look to the fact we have played with only 1 striker in our squad for the first 4 games.

 

[luptic]

Look it early days, we need better options on the bench... and while we have them now, it could have so much different if we had N'jie and Son in earlier. I dont blame the manager, he simply hasnt been given the tools early enough to make the difference.

 

[FinnYid]

Look it early days, we need better options on the bench... and while we have them now, it could have so much different if we had N'jie and Son in earlier. I dont blame the manager, he simply hasnt been given the tools early enough to make the difference.

He is devoid of blame when it comes to assembling the squad?

 

[Spurs 1961]

If what I saw yesterday is a glimpse of what we could be like then Poch might prove to be the best manager we have had in 40 yrs. Taking decisions like trying Dier in midfield, how many people said Bale was just a left back, I wonder. Using a number of academy, young and new players who he has had time to work with and slowly bringing them on. All these are the sort of things we need from a manager. We then use the transfer market to add what we don't have rather than use the turnstile approach that has been our typical mode of operation.

I have been bored totally by the football we have played the last few seasons but have been, and am, prepared to give a manager time to change things. It is what we need if we are ever going to progress as a club

 

[luptic]

He is devoid of blame when it comes to assembling the squad?

He shouldnt be devoid of blame, the only thing i would say that disappointed me yesterday is why if N'jie was available was he not on the bench?

 

[hellava_tough]

He shouldnt be devoid of blame, the only thing i would say that disappointed me yesterday is why if N'jie was available was he not on the bench?

On MotD they said he was injured

 

[spurs mental]

He shouldnt be devoid of blame, the only thing i would say that disappointed me yesterday is why if N'jie was available was he not on the bench?

Pooch has said he was injured in pre season with Lyon, and didn't want to risk him.

 

[CowInAComa]

Pooch has said he was injured in pre season with Lyon, and didn't want to risk him.

Well that's just not good enough.