The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[Trent Crimm]

Didn’t we promise Santini a house on the beach? Prob the same house we told Michael Bridge was the same price in London that it was in Sunderland.

 

[JW72]

But the club have the money for those seats , it's the prospective sellers that lose out not the club. Game is not televised in UK so nobody will really notice the empty seats , the attendance will be shown as maybe 55,000 + will anybody care . Club will lose money on food/beers sales but not sure that will hurt them much.

It will only be when ST's do not sell out next season , that things might change.

I realise that the seats are prepaid and that one match wont dent the finances but it’s the indication that a chunk of these people might be considering not renewing that could give the board something to think about at least (as well as some lost match day revenue).

 

[sidford]

Didn’t we promise Santini a house on the beach? Prob the same house we told Michael Bridge was the same price in London that it was in Sunderland.

We were after Michael bridge before??

 

[Pochemon94]

I realise that the seats are prepaid and that one match wont dent the finances but it’s the indication that a chunk of these people might be considering not renewing that could give the board something to think about at least (as well as some lost match day revenue).

i don't think it really matters to them. They have concerts and other major events that make up that defecit quite quickly. With that being said, they aren't going to ever fully invest or give a flying F about anything so long as we get top 4. That's the end all be all for Enic. Top 4. If we lose saturday i got a feeling Conte will be binned and it's ryan mason as caretaker till the end of the year. No top rate manager will want to walk into the team during this time, rightfully so.

 

[Dazzazzad]

There absolutely no point in us fans talking about potential future managers until this man is out of our club.

Nothing will change no matter what manager comes in under Levy.

5 years ago we had a team competing for everything, played great football, a settled manager, did not have a home ground, and a very small transfer budget.

Now its the total opposite in every area. We are playing dour football, going through managers like crazy, spending shitloads on squad (and firing managers), playing in an epic new stadium and not getting consistent results on the field.

That's not the direction any of us wanted (except the stadium) but that is massive change. I think the pendulum can and eventually will swing back when we find a good coaching fit for our club.

 

[spursfan77]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

You missed out his brief appearance in a TikTok video

 

[sidford]

You missed out his brief appearance in a TikTok video

I was planning on doing a part 2 and knowing levy there will be enough for a part 3 in another 18 months when unfortunately we're here again

 

[spursfan77]

Yeah agree. The only way Levy takes notice is if the stadium isn’t full as he’s essentially loosing money. This is good to see, hopefully more tickets get put up for sale.

He’s not losing money on those seats though. They’ve been put on via the exchange so he’s already got the money.

 

[spursfan77]

I was planning on doing a part 2 and knowing levy there will be enough for a part 3 in another 18 months when unfortunately we're here again

I’m not sure there’s going to be mountains of cash to spend this summer so there’s definitely going to be scope that’s for sure!

If he’s not dreading the day he loses us Harry Kane then I’m starting to wonder if he’s really not trolling us at this point!

 

[sidford]

I’m not sure there’s going to be mountains of cash to spend this summer so there’s definitely going to be scope that’s for sure!

If he’s not dreading the day he loses us Harry Kane then I’m starting to wonder if he’s really not trolling us at this point!

We all know he can't / won't be sacked and that no matter what we think about him he will continue on in his role however, I genuinely believe from everything that's been said about him he isn't thick skinned and he does care about public opinion.
He is now in a position where he has had 3 failed managerial appointments since Poch, 1 of which was a huge failure in Nuno, appointed a lad in a very senior role who could well be in prison in the short term (doing that in most industries would lead to the person who hired them getting sacked) and is now only 15 months away from losing one of, if not the, best player to ever play for spurs on a free. A large section of fans despise him for his continued failures in relation to the football side of the business.

I don't see how he can pull this one back I really don't. The failures and lack of any coherent plan have caught up with him & fans (and media now as well) are calling him out for it. I don't see how he can get his reputation out of where it is now, he has created these problems himself and Conte was his last roll of dice to save his reputation with the fans and that has backfired.

He was teflon before but those days are done.

 

[spurs mental]

competing for everything,

Agree with everything except this part. We pushed for the league once if we're being really honest. We never got close to Leicester save for 10 mins v Arsenal where we were level with them on points as it stood mid game.

We whimpered out of the League Cup, Europa and FA Cup on a number of occasions, save for 2 semi finals where we were bested and out tacticed by our opposition.

And of course we got to the CL final, but we were never really in the game after 45 seconds unfortunately due to poor refereeing.

 

[Metalhead]

We all know he can't / won't be sacked and that no matter what we think about him he will continue on in his role however, I genuinely believe from everything that's been said about him he isn't thick skinned and he does care about public opinion.
He is now in a position where he has had 3 failed managerial appointments since Poch, 1 of which was a huge failure in Nuno, appointed a lad in a very senior role who could well be in prison in the short term (doing that in most industries would lead to the person who hired them getting sacked) and is now only 15 months away from losing one of, if not the, best player to ever play for spurs on a free. A large section of fans despise him for his continued failures in relation to the football side of the business.

I don't see how he can pull this one back I really don't. The failures and lack of any coherent plan have caught up with him & fans (and media now as well) are calling him out for it. I don't see how he can get his reputation out of where it is now, he has created these problems himself and Conte was his last roll of dice to save his reputation with the fans and that has backfired.

He was teflon before but those days are done.

If anyone was wondering why Levy hadn't sacked Conte yet, this sums it up. It seems like the obvious option is sack Conte and let Mason take over or bring in Poch. It isn't as easy as that though. The echoes of that horror of a summer recruitment drive will still be giving him nightmares.

We're not in a great situation but Conte will still seem like the safer option to Levy than what happened last time. Despite evidence to the contrary at times, Levy will be concerned about his credibility - which will be shot to bits if he makes another wrong move so he won't be in a desperate rush to make a decision I would have thought.

 

[spursfan77]

We all know he can't / won't be sacked and that no matter what we think about him he will continue on in his role however, I genuinely believe from everything that's been said about him he isn't thick skinned and he does care about public opinion.
He is now in a position where he has had 3 failed managerial appointments since Poch, 1 of which was a huge failure in Nuno, appointed a lad in a very senior role who could well be in prison in the short term (doing that in most industries would lead to the person who hired them getting sacked) and is now only 15 months away from losing one of, if not the, best player to ever play for spurs on a free. A large section of fans despise him for his continued failures in relation to the football side of the business.

I don't see how he can pull this one back I really don't. The failures and lack of any coherent plan have caught up with him & fans (and media now as well) are calling him out for it. I don't see how he can get his reputation out of where it is now, he has created these problems himself and Conte was his last roll of dice to save his reputation with the fans and that has backfired.

He was teflon before but those days are done.

The crowd will turn on him on saturday I think, regardless of how things are going on the pitch. It just seems like it is all heading that way. That will be the thing that forces him to act quicker in sacking Conte now. More than results I feel.

 

[McArchibald]

The crowd will turn on him on saturday I think, regardless of how things are going on the pitch. It just seems like it is all heading that way. That will be the thing that forces him to act quicker in sacking Conte now. More than results I feel.

Let's hope so. Because there's only one man responsible for 22 years of underachievement. And as long as he stays, nothing will change.

 

[g_harry]

(Some possible revisionist tweaking by me below!)

• George Graham - sacked after he complained about ENIC transfer policy
• Glenn Hoddle - complained he was given players he didn't want (Pleat recommendations like Robbie Keane) and fact he could never get the players he wanted by ENIC
• David Pleat - interim - focused on getting cheaper British players
• Jacques Santini - left after complaints about broken ENIC promises
• Martin Jol - sacked half time against Getafe despite Spurs best premier league finishes and being denied 4th place by PL skullduggery - didn't get on with Football Director
• Juan de Ramos - sacked after having two best strikers sold with inferior replacements and for taking cup competitions seriously
• Harry Redknapp - sacked after Spurs first 4th place in PL and actually challenging for the league but denied transfer upgrades and given freebies instead
• Andre Vilas Boas - sacked after being given the magnificent 7 by the Football Director, although he didn't want any of them. ENIC still managed to make a transfer profit after selling Bale for a record fee
• Tim Sherwood - err... the less said the better. One sacking I agreed with
• Mauricio Pochettino - proved he was magic after being given players of the quality of N'Jie, N'Koudo, losing out on Mane & Wijnaldum for Sissoko, that transfer window -you know the story by now - ENIC sacked him
• Jose Mourinho - the not so special one - finding out ENIC didn't do the purchase of quality players he wanted - ends up with poor Joe Rodon instead of a quality CB, etc - sacked as usual
• Nuno Espirito Santo - last choice manager after Gattuso and Fonseca were binned and everybody else ran away - apparently Spurs DNA fit - 2 weeks pre-season. Nice guy but wrong fit. Sacked
• Antonio Conte - Like JM finding out ENIC don't do buy quality in correct position (such as a CB or two) - but do love a bargain - bets on where he is sacked or contract runs down
• 2023 -2024 - could be horrific judging from ENIC's record in football - not just Levy but the entire executive board are to blame - 9th richest club in the world but can't afford players or wages and can't even build a quality youth system or scouting system instead

Quite damming really, if you were that incompetent in your job you be gone. Well sorry when your assessed on successful football team and winning trophies that is.

It's funny at spurs all the managers fail, wonder why that is.

I am fully of the belief that managers are sold a dream by Levy that is never or occasionally delivered. That's why majority of managers lose faith in their role/job here.

 

[Drink!Drink!]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

let this stand on the record.

if gone further back could have added
TIM BLOODY SHERWOOD
or
9 months of David Pleat as caretaker. Alleged global talent search ends with…
Jaques Santini
3 months later Santini leaves unable to cope with the job

could we all not just point our fingers at Levy and the directors box and sing you dont know what you’re doing

 

[barrie]

The crowd will turn on him on saturday I think, regardless of how things are going on the pitch. It just seems like it is all heading that way. That will be the thing that forces him to act quicker in sacking Conte now. More than results I feel.

The only reason I'm going on Saturday is to enjoy every last second of Kane playing for the club that I love and to loudly request Levy leaves the club that I love.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

He’s not losing money on those seats though. They’ve been put on via the exchange so he’s already got the money.

Of course, but its a start, at least it means a little less is going to be spent behind the bar.

 

[cookiemonster]

The ex players & managers need to start calling him out too

 

[Dazzazzad]

Quite damming really, if you were that incompetent in your job you be gone. Well sorry when your assessed on successful football team and winning trophies that is.

It's funny at spurs all the managers fail, wonder why that is.

I am fully of the belief that managers are sold a dream by Levy that is never or occasionally delivered. That's why majority of managers lose faith in their role/job here.

I did a post recently looking at other clubs hirings since 2000 and we had one of the most stable couple of decades with regards to manager turnover. Doesn't seem like it but that's because we aren't as focused on other clubs.