The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[shelfsidespur]

I know. I was joking. Hence the laughing emojis.

Fair do's
My ability to see humour today is severely curtailed. My two sons have both criticised me today for bringing them up as Spurs supporters. I now know how my parents, both ardent fans of the other team in North London, felt when I chose Spurs.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Fair do's
My ability to see humour today is severely curtailed. My two sons have both criticised me today for bringing them up as Spurs supporters. I now know how my parents, both ardent fans of the other team in North London, felt when I chose Spurs.

Hahaha. All good.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since before Porto that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

yeh but apart from that…

 

[g_harry]

There absolutely no point in us fans talking about potential future managers until this man is out of our club.

Nothing will change no matter what manager comes in under Levy.

 

[thebenjamin]

There absolutely no point in us fans talking about potential future managers until this man is out of our club.

Nothing will change no matter what manager comes in under Levy.

Another decade or so before levy goes I reckon.

 

[JW72]

Good to see articles like this popping up

The empty spaces around the stadium on Saturday might start to focus his mind. The shot below shows just 2 sections of the South Stand, with pink dots being seats put up on the exchange. It's a similar picture in every part of the ground and has the pink dots have been increasing rapidly since the weekend. Completely unprecedented for an EPL fixture.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

The empty spaces around the stadium on Saturday might start to focus his mind. The shot below shows just 2 sections of the South Stand, with pink dots being seats put up on the exchange. It's a similar picture in every part of the ground and has the pink dots have been increasing rapidly since the weekend. Completely unprecedented for an EPL fixture.

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Yeah agree. The only way Levy takes notice is if the stadium isn’t full as he’s essentially loosing money. This is good to see, hopefully more tickets get put up for sale.

 

[h2005]

Wasn’t sure where to put this question. What is the max we could spend this summer with FFP?

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

The empty spaces around the stadium on Saturday might start to focus his mind. The shot below shows just 2 sections of the South Stand, with pink dots being seats put up on the exchange. It's a similar picture in every part of the ground and has the pink dots have been increasing rapidly since the weekend. Completely unprecedented for an EPL fixture.

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But the club have the money for those seats , it's the prospective sellers that lose out not the club. Game is not televised in UK so nobody will really notice the empty seats , the attendance will be shown as maybe 55,000 + will anybody care . Club will lose money on food/beers sales but not sure that will hurt them much.

It will only be when ST's do not sell out next season , that things might change.

 

[danielneeds]

Wasn’t sure where to put this question. What is the max we could spend this summer with FFP?

Jeff B, is that you?

 

[slartibartfast]

Another decade or so before levy goes I reckon.

Sure the time will fly by.

 

[wspur]

Yeah agree. The only way Levy takes notice is if the stadium isn’t full as he’s essentially loosing money. This is good to see, hopefully more tickets get put up for sale.

Well, the game is sold out so he'd just be losing the food and drinks money. And this won't last, two wins and it's back to normal, I put mine up for sale after leicester I think and it went within one day.

 

[wspur]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

Oh come on, Paratici did well in bringing new players, those are not Levy's fault.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Can someone with the required access post this article up for me please? (without any copyright images)

Daniel Levy has lost the Tottenham fans – he is under more pressure than ever before

Levy went for big name short fix managers Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte and yet Tottenham remain no closer to ending their trophy drought

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[YB123]

Levy is all about money. He will see the empty seats and lost revenue and act.

Mr Reactive, never Mr Proactive

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Another decade or so before levy goes I reckon.

Honestly at the point I think serious questions of the fans patience / actions will be asked.

 

[leethfc14]

Can someone with the required access post this article up for me please? (without any copyright images)

Daniel Levy has lost the Tottenham fans – he is under more pressure than ever before

Levy went for big name short fix managers Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte and yet Tottenham remain no closer to ending their trophy drought

www.telegraph.co.uk

Daniel Levy is a curious combination: the Premier League’s longest serving club chairman who appears to combine an accountant’s nature with a gambler’s instinct that has only made Tottenham Hotspur more conservative on the pitch in the last few years.
It is often stated that Levy has a thick skin which given the current hostility of Tottenham fans is clearly a good thing. It is also not true.
The Spurs chairman was undoubtedly shaken, and concerned, during a sustained backlash which followed the tone-deaf decision to take – later reversed – the Government’s furlough scheme during the Covid crisis, then joining the European Super League debacle, then the long-running and embarrassing saga to find a new manager to replace Jose Mourinho, then having Harry Kane try and force his way out with accusations that Levy had reneged on promises he made.

It was a difficult 18 months from April 2020 onwards with the arrival of Antonio Conte not only seen as something of a coup but also buying Levy some breathing space. But now he is again being squeezed at every angle. The summer of 2023 could make what happened two years ago feel like a stroll in the park.

It will be compounded further by the fan resentment. There really does appear to be not just a collective loss of faith in Levy but also a sustained anger towards the chairman who has painted himself into a corner.
The pressure is on yet again but this time it is greater than ever and not least because of the rise of Arsenal who, after those years of being finally overtaken by their north London neighbours, may just be on their way to winning the title again.
That will stick in the craw for Spurs and their fans who will wonder why Levy did not sanction the kind of bold investment that has seen Arsenal and their generational talent of a manager Mikel Arteta usurp them so quickly.

Neither Mourinho nor Conte are builders and yet that is exactly what Spurs needed​

In so many ways Levy is the poster boy of how to run a Premier League club: incredible stadium built, amazing training ground constructed, a financially-sustainable plan with, traditionally, the league’s sixth highest wage bill and consistently qualifying for Europe. They were middle table when he arrived and going nowhere.

It should be the model for others to follow and it should also be remembered that, with Joe Lewis, Spurs actually have the last British owner – albeit a tax exile – in the “Big Six”.

And yet there is something that appears to hold Spurs back and that leads to decisions being made that for a club seeming to have such a long-term plan appear to smack of short-termism and popularism.

That certainly looked like the case in hiring Mourinho – and bringing him in was a Levy obsession going back years - to succeed Mauricio Pochettino and then also in bringing in Conte.

Neither Mourinho nor Conte are builders and yet that is exactly what Spurs needed. The two managers want to win and win quickly and it will have irritated Spurs fans even more, given both have failed to do so, to hear Conte lecture them on the need for “patience” following the depressing Champions League exit to AC Milan.

It really felt like a jarring speech from the Italian who does not come across as a man used to demonstrating the need for time but is now asking for it to be granted to him.

No-one really believes that. It is inevitable that Conte will leave and the immediate dilemma for Levy is does he keep him in place until the end of the season as he tries to achieve the top-four finish and Champions League football that is crucial to Spurs or should he go now?

The atmosphere around Spurs could become toxic for the final 12 games of the campaign, especially with the turgid football the fans are being asked to endure, and what lasting damage will that cause and not least to Levy himself?

Levy has to take responsibility for a series of expensive managerial failings​

Alternatively can Levy lure now the manager he wants to try and take Spurs forward? It would appear unlikely that he can attract Brighton’s Roberto De Zerbi or Celtic’s Ange Postecoglou at this stage while managers such as Luis Enrique tend to want a full pre-season to implement their ideas.

Pochettino may feel the same although, of course, he has been at the club before while bringing him back would amount to an acceptance by Levy that the Argentinian was right all along when he was sacked. Nevertheless Levy did want Pochettino before hiring Nuno Espirito Santo. Remember him?

The issue for Spurs, and the one that should define who their next manager is, possibly also whether Kane stays, and the direction of the club is what do they want to be?

Levy has to take responsibility for a series of expensive managerial failings and a collection of bad signings and re-set. Spurs are not a disaster, they are fourth in the Premier League above Liverpool, Chelsea and Newcastle United. But there is something about the club and maybe about Levy that prevents them making that final step and maybe it is that inherent contradiction at the heart of the chairman’s approach.

 

[yankspurs]

This is something that gets overlooked imo. Everyone credits him as being great on the business and commercials, but look at how much he has pissed away on compensation and/or holding onto players too long.

Edit. My favourite recent deal of his is the swap we do with Seville (Lamela for Gil plus a fee of £21.6M) where Seville end up with both players. Nice work Dan. Fucking asshat.

He also just haggled for a month for a player with a €45m release clause only to pay €50m at the end because he didnt realize it expired.

 

[arnoldlayne]

It is very common practice for wealthy company owners to arrange placement of their offspring in companies in a similar business to their own in order for their kids to get experience of how other companies work.. If put in their own company nothing new is learned and people won't tell them Dad's way is wrong.

From what I have read, Joe Lewis's son & daughter are both Liverpool fans - hence why she applied to work there before Spurs was bought by her dad. She was apparently engaged to ex-Liverpool player Craig Johnston - who claims he is a Spurs fan!

 

[arnoldlayne]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

(Some possible revisionist tweaking by me below!)

• George Graham - sacked after he complained about ENIC transfer policy
• Glenn Hoddle - complained he was given players he didn't want (Pleat recommendations like Robbie Keane) and fact he could never get the players he wanted by ENIC
• David Pleat - interim - focused on getting cheaper British players
• Jacques Santini - left after complaints about broken ENIC promises
• Martin Jol - sacked half time against Getafe despite Spurs best premier league finishes and being denied 4th place by PL skullduggery - didn't get on with Football Director
• Juan de Ramos - sacked after having two best strikers sold with inferior replacements and for taking cup competitions seriously
• Harry Redknapp - sacked after Spurs first 4th place in PL and actually challenging for the league but denied transfer upgrades and given freebies instead
• Andre Vilas Boas - sacked after being given the magnificent 7 by the Football Director, although he didn't want any of them. ENIC still managed to make a transfer profit after selling Bale for a record fee
• Tim Sherwood - err... the less said the better. One sacking I agreed with
• Mauricio Pochettino - proved he was magic after being given players of the quality of N'Jie, N'Koudo, losing out on Mane & Wijnaldum for Sissoko, that transfer window -you know the story by now - ENIC sacked him
• Jose Mourinho - the not so special one - finding out ENIC didn't do the purchase of quality players he wanted - ends up with poor Joe Rodon instead of a quality CB, etc - sacked as usual
• Nuno Espirito Santo - last choice manager after Gattuso and Fonseca were binned and everybody else ran away - apparently Spurs DNA fit - 2 weeks pre-season. Nice guy but wrong fit. Sacked
• Antonio Conte - Like JM finding out ENIC don't do buy quality in correct position (such as a CB or two) - but do love a bargain - bets on where he is sacked or contract runs down
• 2023 -2024 - could be horrific judging from ENIC's record in football - not just Levy but the entire executive board are to blame - 9th richest club in the world but can't afford players or wages and can't even build a quality youth system or scouting system instead