The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Day After

[full-frontal-nudity]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

 

[HailKingLevy]

We need a reserve team. how else are our mis-firing strikers meant to get
match fitness when there coming back from injury.

 

[CliffJones]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

You should pop round and see Paxtonites wife, at least you'll get fed sausages.

 

[Zimmy]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

:clap:

Fair play good Sir, I salute your honesty!

 

[Alfieconnman]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

It takes a big guy to come out with that - but I guess since you spend your life naked you won't be lacking in confidence! Full forgiveness is available - not your fault to be the victim of bullshit.

 

[kdspur]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

no offence mate but always thought whatever u got was shite anyway. fair play for posting it though. kept me entertained.

 

[kdspur]

all this transfer window has done is serve what amateurs and lightweights we are in where we go about things. all it was a PR STUNT. keeping spurs in the news when we should have gone about our business at very start of window and got a striker like we know we needed.

the simple answer to that is no way .. try n wait till last minute and shave a few million off it. LEVY IS THE JOKE HERE NOT HARRY. imo i think we are tight fisted and go about business in wrong way. i believe our scouting network is nothing short of a joke. whenevr u here about young players arsenal always there no matter where in world they are and us well fuck it lets fire few million and gamble on an up and coming english based player. id be suprised if we even have a few european scouts. people say levy is great and levy is the man when in fact he is far from it. i dont blame harry for letting players go that went, they are all fucking shite anyway and of no beneit to us at all imo. what we needed was a few faces to liven us up, get a buzz around place going. a striker wud have been amazing . as a result i think we wont get fourth. shocked if we do . i still think 4th position is between us and man shitty but we have to string 4 or 5 game wins togther to get amongst it and with games coming up away from home i simply dont see it.

 

[vonn]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

Fair play mate. No worries.

 

[SpurSince57]

This season was always going to be difficult, juggling CL both physically and mentally was going to take its toll. The fact that we are 5th is in fact more than I hoped for. For our squad, as good as it is to assault both fronts to the point where we were being mentioned as possible (all be it outsiders) contenders to the Prem title is a massive achievement. We've not been brilliant this season in the league, yet picked up the wins when it counted. Once the CL adventure comes to a close, most probably in a glorious defeat to AC Milan, we'll be primed to push on in the league.

Not getting a striker was one thing, Harry 'not identifying his targets' is a strange one. It seems he gave a list to Levy and that included Carroll at the top. That wasn't possible so when the other names, particularly Suarez came up, it is understandable to be hesitant. Just look at the opposing opinions on here that you get each time someone is mentioend?
Harry and his staff were evidently split, which is not a good circumstance under which to sign someone.
Harry gets a lot of credit for getting us CL, but when the Sky camera's pan the bench, you can't help but think he is merely a cog in a big machine, that consists of Bond, Jordan and Allen (as well as Sherwood and Ferdinand).
Thats our coaching unit, Harry does the motivating, the others the technical coaching. Harry might say "yeah, I like Suarez" Bond might disagree, Jordan might side with either, Allen might say "not suited to prem, don't think he will fit into our tactical plans X, Y and Z ".
Our main target (Carroll) wasn't available to us, he sounds as if he never would have left Newcastle if he wasn't forced out. They wouldn't have forced him out for the inflated £18m or so we would have offered. Then what? Harry gets the plaudits and the big bucks, so sure he is held accountable, but there is more to consider when buying a player than the thoughts of just him.
It is not just the risk of losing £28m, it is the risk of upsetting the applecart. We've a bloody good team ethic, sure the importance of that isn't lost on our coaching staff.

You can guarantee that if we'd paid £35m for Carroll at least half of SC would have gone totally batshit—in fact half of that would have done the trick. As you say, there was hardly unanimous approval of the other names that came up, and if Harry wasn't 100% convinced by Suarez, say, it's best not to go there, surely. The embarrassment was Levy's apparent last-minute efforts to buy every half-decent striker in Spain (although the reality may not be quite the same as ITKs and SSN claimed, that's the image that sticks, and will continue to stick).

 

[thinktank]

Get behind them were as good as anybody in the top 4...

COYS

Not anymore. Fucked it. That's all now.

 

[Courtneyjd]

I renounce my ITK status.


I was fed bullshit. Sorry guys

I wouldn't worry about it mate, you weren't the only one! You were just relaying what you were told in good faith :up:

 

[thinktank]

I don't think it helps particularly that Harry is constantly up for interview either via a press conference or passing in his 4x4 outside Spurs Lodge.

Dunno why but that made me laugh. :grin:

 

[thinktank]

You have to wonder how things work though when in Redklnapp's own words (last night on SSN) he says " well Daniel rang me and said what d'you think of Charlie Adam, and i said ye he's a good player i like Charlie so the chairman says i think we might be able to do a deal, so we were going to give it a try but with like four minutes to go to the end of the window we needed a couple of their board members to sign some paper work so it didnt happen" (or words to that effect).

Which all makes me think WTF??? It's not like your Mrs being at the supermarket and calling you to say "Alright love what do you reckon of lamb chops for tea...ye i love lamb chops....ok i think i can get a good deal at the supermarket......excellent....but the shops closing in five minutes so got to get to the checkout....bye!

What kind of strategy is that for buying fucking players.....seriously!! Stick to the shopping list.....if you bloody have one!

Yup 'tis proper bonafide bonkers.

 

[thinktank]

mg: So I don't post much, as i tend to only express my opinion when something provokes me.

Anyway here goes. I've been lurking around on here for the past few days and stumbled upon the transfer rumours part of this forum just yesterday, of course some of the names people were linking us with on here were very amusing on what seemed like an hectic day, but the reactions of some people is just embarrasing. I've been hearing people calling for Harry's head, Also talking about Harry's incompetence in the transfer market, oh and lest we forget, Harry's out of his depth in this half of the table :eh:. Is this the same Harry Redknapp that has taken us to a cup final? 4th place finish? and the last 16 of the worlds most elite club tournament? i found myself thinking, no it can't be, so to stumble back on here and see the same sh*t being bandied about is just shocking. I hear a lot of people also criticise Daniel Levy for his seemingly poor tactics in the transfer market, again is this the same Daniel Levy who got top monies for the likes of Berbatov, Carrick, Keane and probably a good few others? and allegedly signed VDV for a mere 8 million pound? This talk is nonsense and i'm amazed that its even being spoken about. Yes i do agree with everybody else on the fact that we could have done with a striker, but have never really felt it was a major problem area as we had (until yesterday) 4, (although the stats do prove me completely wrong) i feel that the 3 we still have at the club have plenty of goals in them. All i'm trying to say is we got 4th last season with almost the same team as we have now, the only difference is we have made an improvement to our midfield by signing VDV, although some see this as detrimental, also it would be naive to think that Harry doesn't already know what the team is lacking, it would also be naive to think that we haven't already scouted or are scouting players who fit the bill, the answer is not buying players in the winter at overinflated prices, because that is all this shoddy window represents, or has the Darren Bent/Andy Carroll deals taught you nothing?:roll:

:Originally Posted by EAspur1976:

Anyway here goes. I've been lurking around on here for the past few days and stumbled upon the transfer rumours part of this forum just yesterday, of course some of the names people were linking us with on here were very amusing on what seemed like an hectic day, but the reactions of some people is just embarrasing. I've been hearing people calling for Harry's head, Also talking about Harry's incompetence in the transfer market, oh and lest we forget, Harry's out of his depth in this half of the table :eh:

Is this the same Harry Redknapp that has taken us to a cup final? 4th place finish? and the last 16 of the worlds most elite club tournament? i found myself thinking, no it can't be, so to stumble back on here and see the same sh*t being bandied about is just shocking.

I hear a lot of people also criticise Daniel Levy for his seemingly poor tactics in the transfer market, again is this the same Daniel Levy who got top monies for the likes of Berbatov, Carrick, Keane and probably a good few others? and allegedly signed VDV for a mere 8 million pound? This talk is nonsense and i'm amazed that its even being spoken about. Yes i do agree with everybody else on the fact that we could have done with a striker, but have never really felt it was a major problem area as we had (until yesterday) 4, (although the stats do prove me completely wrong) i feel that the 3 we still have at the club have plenty of goals in them.

All i'm trying to say is we got 4th last season with almost the same team as we have now, the only difference is we have made an improvement to our midfield by signing VDV, although some see this as detrimental, also it would be naive to think that Harry doesn't already know what the team is lacking, it would also be naive to think that we haven't already scouted or are scouting players who fit the bill, the answer is not buying players in the winter at overinflated prices, because that is all this shoddy window represents, or has the Darren Bent/Andy Carroll deals taught you nothing?:roll:

 

[Zimmy]

We signed anyone yet?

 

[thinktank]

We signed anyone yet?

Pienaar....

 

[yanno]

And he's one training ground bust up or drunken night out away from doing a stretch inside.

Yup - Carroll has an appalling record of off field violence, and Steven Taylor (and his jaw) won't be disappointed that Andy has taken the filthy scouse lucre.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...eaks-jaw-of-newcastle-team-mate-steven-taylor

However, given that Stevie G was acquitted of a blatant assault, caught on CCTV, by a judge who ruled Gerrard was acting in self-defence, perhaps Carrroll will get a Get Out Of Jail for free card in Liverpool.

I suspect he'll be needing it sooner rather than later.

Because otherwise having £35 million worth of Number 9 talent banged up in HMP Walton Gaol will put a big, broad smile on my face....

My view is that the one that got away was Luis Suarez. It looks highly likely that we could have signed him if our management team had been on the same page, and Suarez is almost certainly a better player than any of our current strikers.

Trying to sign one-paced fat boy Charlie Adam at five minutes to 11 was just pathetic. Especially given Blackpool had just signed one-paced fatter boy Andy Reid to replace him.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

£35m for Caroll, regardless of whether he turns out OK, is the most embarrassing transfer in the history of transfers world wide, and has completely obliterated the Bent 16m humiliation. Just like Bent, the bloke may well turn out to be a decent "unit" but he will never, ever be a Drogba or Torres, and was worth about 12m max.

But as I've said the whole fucking window, Redknapp's decision (and every piece of ITK we have says it was Redknapp) to pass on Suarez is probably the worst "pass" that I can remember since Sugar baulked at replacing johnny Foreigner Klinsman with Jonny Foreigner Bergkamp, and Jol's "pass" on Youri Djorkaeff. Redknapp's "pass" on Huntelaar is also up there too.

I just don't think a club like us gets a chance to sign this type of player at this stage of his career very often.

I'm not suicidal about missing out on Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi or Forlan at stupid prices - all are decent and better than what we have but I have reservations about all of them for one reason or another.

Suarez was the perfect fit. Could have replaced Keane, Defoe and Pav with one player, sold them and bought an uber next window.

 

[yanno]

£35m for Caroll, regardless of whether he turns out OK, is the most embarrassing transfer in the history of transfers world wide, and has completely obliterated the Bent 16m humiliation. Just like Bent, the bloke may well turn out to be a decent "unit" but he will never, ever be a Drogba or Torres, and was worth about 12m max.

Agreed. Ashley was always going to rip somone off, and I suspect he's delighted it was the scousers...

But as I've said the whole fucking window, Redknapp's decision (and every piece of ITK we have says it was Redknapp) to pass on Suarez is probably the worst "pass" that I can remember since Sugar baulked at replacing johnny Foreigner Klinsman with Jonny Foreigner Bergkamp, and Jol's "pass" on Youri Djorkaeff. Redknapp's "pass" on Huntelaar is also up there too.

I disagree about Huntelaar, and you forgot Zidane. Otherwise, I agree.

I just don't think a club like us gets a chance to sign this type of player at this stage of his career very often.

Yes: in the January window, £22 million is a reasonable price, and Suarez is still only 24.

I'm not suicidal about missing out on Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi or Forlan at stupid prices - all are decent and better than what we have but I have reservations about all of them for one reason or another.

I suspect, in English football, Fabiano is a bullet dodged.

Forlan is a top player, but the price was crazy for his age, and pace is an important part of his game.

Llorente was worth trying, and would have been an excellent foil for VDV, Modric, Bale et al. However, he's not very aggressive given his size and physique, and would have needed Jordan getting some physicality into CF play. However, Llorente has a big potential upside.

Rossi is technically great. I'm not convinced he's 50% better than Suarez (if the transfer fees quoted are correct), but by most accounts he didn't want to come to us.

Suarez was the perfect fit. Could have replaced Keane, Defoe and Pav with one player, sold them and bought an uber next window.

With Llorente as the upgrade on Crouch..... :grin:

 

[Arkie]

:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

FGS give it a rest and get on with it