The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - PINCH & A PUNCH 1st June 2013

[Waiwonder]

the young brazilian the journo mentioned could be Douglas Costa who plays for shakhtar donetsk

he's not 'unknown'. i see that name pop up every now and then. i didn't have a single clue who bernard was until people started mentioning him on here. At first I thought people were joking about dogs!!! Hope it is him!!

 

[mill]

the young brazilian the journo mentioned could be Douglas Costa who plays for shakhtar donetsk

I seriously doubt it, we'll never or very rarely deal with clubs like Shakhtar, surely you realised that from the Willian saga. We want to pay under market value not top dollar for our players

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Waaaait a minute. Is this your way of telling me to fuck off?

it's a subliminal message for the players too!

if I could rate this "winner" sixty times, it wouldn't be enough. You clever sod. Now go forth and spread the word.

ahhh... nearly. if half of 'em can't get fourth...

 

[Max123]

How much do you think he would cost?

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

How things are shaping up, this would be a fantastic window:

Villa, LD, Bernard and one of Vydra/Cornelius etc as attacking options.

We still need a playmaker, worrying there's been no ITK to suggest we are in for one?

Then a younger defender maybe Alderweireld.

I would be chuffed with that.

 

[gazzeh]

How much do you think he would cost?

Douglas Costa from Shakthar? £15m+

 

[Max123]

yeah i guess so

 

[mill]

How much do you think he would cost?

More than what he's worth, that's how Shakhtar roll

 

[Gedson100]

Leandro's Champion's League preference makes a lot of sense when you factor in the World Cup. He'll want to be visible this year and CL is sadly for us the best stage for a Brazilian abroad. Last thing he'll want to is spend 3/4 months on our bench 'acclimatising' & get forgotten.
It's his home world cup & he's on the fringes; his concern is understandable AND ALSO ANNOYING, SIGN UP YOU FUCKER!

 

[mark87]

Douglas Costa from Shakthar? £15m+

And the rest

 

[mark87]

Leandro's Champion's League preference makes a lot of sense when you factor in the World Cup. He'll want to be visible this year and CL is sadly for us the best stage for a Brazilian abroad. Last thing he'll want to is spend 3/4 months on our bench 'acclimatising' & get forgotten.
It's his home world cup & he's on the fringes; his concern is understandable AND ALSO ANNOYING, SIGN UP YOU FUCKER!

Very true, but if he's banging them in left, right and centre in the PL then that should be a big enough stage for his to be recognised and picked for the World Cup, I'm sure Sandro will get picked if has another good season and he won't be in the CL.

 

[mill]

How things are shaping up, this would be a fantastic window:

Villa, LD, Bernard and one of Vydra/Cornelius etc as attacking options.

We still need a playmaker, worrying there's been no ITK to suggest we are in for one?

Then a younger defender maybe Alderweireld.

I would be chuffed with that.

Lol just never gonna happen, transfer windows are always the same in these early stages, big hopes that never materialise. I can't see us signing both of LD and Villa unless Villa's content to play out wide in which case I couldn't see us signing Bernard as well, who's probably out of our reach anyway.

Agree about the playmaker though second most pressing need for me

 

[Hoddtastic72]

Leandro's Champion's League preference makes a lot of sense when you factor in the World Cup. He'll want to be visible this year and CL is sadly for us the best stage for a Brazilian abroad. Last thing he'll want to is spend 3/4 months on our bench 'acclimatising' & get forgotten.
It's his home world cup & he's on the fringes; his concern is understandable AND ALSO ANNOYING, SIGN UP YOU FUCKER!

Though playing alongside Bale in the PL and rattling 20 in over the season should get him noticed.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

I think it could be Bernard still, let's be honest... He's in his breakout season largely and most of the forum probably didn't know who he was. Still constitutes as an unknown player IMO.

There are an awful awful lot of other players who also constitute as an "unknown player"

Let's also consider that no itk has come out and said "bernard" iirc... Surely, if it was him, someone would bite the bullet and tell us directly - there are a bunch of seemingly regular itk'ers - not one has. I can't adhere to a "everyone is keeping hush 'cos they don't wanna muck up the deal / alert other clubs" theory.

If it was happening and was so secret that itk providers, some who are maybe two or three times removed from the source, were saying: "ok; I fully understand my co-operation is imperative" other clubs would / could gazump us if there was money on the table.

in short, it's in more people's interest (bernards club, bernards agents) to make a Spurs move public at any stage - jeez, even if it isn't happening - just to drum up interest in their commodity.

None of these things are happening. It ain't bernard. which is a shame cos he looks v tasty.

 

[gazzeh]

By the way, for people saying its an "unknown" brazillian, the ITK said "lesser known"

 

[mill]

There are an awful awful lot of other players who also constitute as an "unknown player"

Let's also consider that no itk has come out and said "bernard" iirc... Surely, if it was him, someone would bite the bullet and tell us directly - there are a bunch of seemingly regular itk'ers - not one has. I can't adhere to a "everyone is keeping hush 'cos they don't wanna muck up the deal / alert other clubs" theory.

If it was happening and was so secret that itk providers, some who are maybe two or three times removed from the source, were saying: "ok; I fully understand my co-operation is imperative" other clubs would / could gazump us if there was money on the table.

in short, it's in more people's interest (bernards club, bernards agents) to make a Spurs move public at any stage - jeez, even if it isn't happening - just to drum up interest in their commodity.

None of these things are happening. It ain't bernard. which is a shame cos he looks v tasty.

I did see a media link yesterday which gives me an ever so faint hope but I just can't see it happening if I'm honest

 

[Annabel]

There are an awful awful lot of other players who also constitute as an "unknown player"
...

in short, it's in more people's interest (bernards club, bernards agents) to make a Spurs move public at any stage - jeez, even if it isn't happening - just to drum up interest in their commodity.

None of these things are happening. It ain't bernard. which is a shame cos he looks v tasty.

Realism & common sense. You have no place here. Begone!

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Yet players still have to be registered to a single club.

Yh I know ...

If separate owners, the Udinese board may have wanted to keep him.

 

[chinaman]

How things are shaping up, this would be a fantastic window:

Villa, LD, Bernard and one of Vydra/Cornelius etc as attacking options.

We still need a playmaker, worrying there's been no ITK to suggest we are in for one?

Then a younger defender maybe Alderweireld.

I would be chuffed with that.

Keep on dreaming and you'll be shocked when you come out of it on 31 August.

 

[Danners9]

How much do you think he would cost?

Bernard?

Spartak Moscow had a 10m ish bid rejected in December. 15-18m is probably more realistic. His club are the reigning champs, I doubt they need to sell. Brazilian clubs are not the conveyor belt to Europe that they used to be.