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Match Threads Spurs Vs Southampton

Date
Feb 9, 2022
KO Time
19:45
Score
Spurs 2-3 Southampton

Bednarek (OG 18) Son (70)
Borja (23) Elyounoussi (80) Adams (82)

Match Prediction

  • Spurs win - 3+ goal difference

    Votes: 26 16.3%
  • Spurs win - Just scrapping through

    Votes: 93 58.1%
  • Spurs lose - Beaten by 3+ goals

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Spurs lose - odd goal

    Votes: 23 14.4%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 14 8.8%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    160

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Sorry, this line of saying, we funded Vlahovic move is such a nonsense.

i) We got Bentancur for 15m£ - which is incredible deal for someone who has 180caps for Juve. We can clearly see that he is a HUGE upgrade on every single CM we have. At 24, with just 45 PL min, I can say he will be a big hit for Spurs - so this seems well worth the money spent

ii) Kulusevski - again played nearly 100 games. BUT, this is only a loan move for 18months. We only pay, IF a) We get CL football b) He starts/palys certain number of games. So , its implicit that for any move to happen, he has to perform & team has to succeed. If he didnt do that, we dont buy him. Juve dont get this Vlahovic money across...

So, lets stop saying we funded his move. That narrative doesnt fit
It’s not nonsense in the least bit, though.

There’s a reason why:

A) Aston Villa had a £20m+ bid rejected for Bentancur, and,

B) We’ve got him for cheaper than Villa’s bid and Kulusevski for a grossly inflated price (if made permanent, which will happen if finish within the top 4).

It’s because Boca Juniors have a 30% sell on fee for Bentancur. By lowering his fee and inflating Kulusevski’s, Paratici has just done his old club another favour.

The fee Juve paid to sign Vlahovic was ~£58m which is to be paid across the next three financial years. That’s around £19m for this season. We’ve paid £15m for Bentancur and a £3m loan fee for Kulusevski. To say it’s “nonsense” we’ve funded Juve’s move Vlahovic is, in itself, nonsense.
 

arunspurs

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If there was one player, I wish we spend 50-60m this summer , I wish it to be Ward-Prowse. He is worth easily that money.

Whether his pressing game, or controlling game in MF or set pieces, he has got it all.

Love watching him - single handedly destroyed us.
 

spursfan77

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We need to do something about the atmosphere at the ground. It’s terrible. The bloke who sits behind me just moans all game. I’ve mentioned him on here before. Tonight was the first night I’ve confronted him. I didn’t blow my top despite other people wanting me to whack him. He ruins every game I go to. I don’t know what to do about him. It’s a real problem. Can I complain? I really don’t know what to do about it. He makes me not want to go to games.
 

arunspurs

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It’s not nonsense in the least bit, though.

There’s a reason why:

A) Aston Villa had a £20m+ bid rejected for Bentancur, and,

B) We’ve got him for cheaper than Villa’s bid and Kulusevski for a grossly inflated price (if made permanent, which will happen if finish within the top 4).

It’s because Boca Juniors have a 30% sell on fee for Bentancur. By lowering his fee and inflating Kulusevski’s, Paratici has just done his old club another favour.

The fee Juve paid to sign Vlahovic was ~£58m which is to be paid across the next three financial years. That’s around £19m for this season. We’ve paid £15m for Bentancur and a £3m loan fee for Kulusevski. To say it’s “nonsense” we’ve funded Juve’s move Vlahovic is, in itself, nonsense.


The narrative is nonsense, like it or not

Bentancur is an upgrade on all our midfielders - do you disagree ? However, deal is structured, I will have Bentancur starting ahead of any of our lot.

Kulusevski - loan fee or not - we only pay him if he we get CL & he plays X amount of games.

Also. In your assessment, you are giving Kulusevski zero chance of succeeding. You basically saying he will not succeed.

If he is terrible, we wont buy him - like we wont buy Gollini this summer.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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We need to do something about the atmosphere at the ground. It’s terrible. The bloke who sits behind me just moans all game. I’ve mentioned him on here before. Tonight was the first night I’ve confronted him. I didn’t blow my top despite other people wanting me to whack him. He ruins every game I go to. I don’t know what to do about him. It’s a real problem. Can I complain? I really don’t know what to do about it. He makes me not want to go to games.
What was his response?
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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We need to do something about the atmosphere at the ground. It’s terrible. The bloke who sits behind me just moans all game. I’ve mentioned him on here before. Tonight was the first night I’ve confronted him. I didn’t blow my top despite other people wanting me to whack him. He ruins every game I go to. I don’t know what to do about him. It’s a real problem. Can I complain? I really don’t know what to do about it. He makes me not want to go to games.

Surely you can ask the club to re-seat you...?

.
 

wrd

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If there was one player, I wish we spend 50-60m this summer , I wish it to be Ward-Prowse. He is worth easily that money.

Whether his pressing game, or controlling game in MF or set pieces, he has got it all.

Love watching him - single handedly destroyed us.
He's an absolutely fantastic player, I think he'd be too difficult to get but he'd sort so many things for us.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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The narrative is nonsense, like it or not

Bentancur is an upgrade on all our midfielders - do you disagree ? However, deal is structured, I will have Bentancur starting ahead of any of our lot.

Kulusevski - loan fee or not - we only pay him if he we get CL & he plays X amount of games.

Also. In your assessment, you are giving Kulusevski zero chance of succeeding. You basically saying he will not succeed.

If he is terrible, we wont buy him - like we wont buy Gollini this summer.
Where have I said Bentancur isn’t an upgrade and that Kulusevski won’t succeed??

Whether he’s a success or not, we’re overpaying for him. Just like we overpaid for Bryan Gil and just like we overpaid for Emerson.
 

wrd

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We need to do something about the atmosphere at the ground. It’s terrible. The bloke who sits behind me just moans all game. I’ve mentioned him on here before. Tonight was the first night I’ve confronted him. I didn’t blow my top despite other people wanting me to whack him. He ruins every game I go to. I don’t know what to do about him. It’s a real problem. Can I complain? I really don’t know what to do about it. He makes me not want to go to games.
You can see if you can move or literally just tell him what you told us that he ruins every game with his act and chances are other people around you will speak up once 1 person does. Sorry it's ruining your experience though pal, that's fucking shit.
 

arunspurs

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Where have I said Bentancur isn’t an upgrade and that Kulusevski won’t succeed??

Whether he’s a success or not, we’re overpaying for him. Just like we overpaid for Bryan Gil and just like we overpaid for Emerson.
We are not overpaying for Bentancur

we are not paying for kulusevski move if he is seen to be bad in his loan tenure. Period ?
 

YiddoBirdy

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If there was one player, I wish we spend 50-60m this summer , I wish it to be Ward-Prowse. He is worth easily that money.

Whether his pressing game, or controlling game in MF or set pieces, he has got it all.

Love watching him - single handedly destroyed us.
He’s winks with a decent free kick
 

Chimbo!

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We need to do something about the atmosphere at the ground. It’s terrible. The bloke who sits behind me just moans all game. I’ve mentioned him on here before. Tonight was the first night I’ve confronted him. I didn’t blow my top despite other people wanting me to whack him. He ruins every game I go to. I don’t know what to do about him. It’s a real problem. Can I complain? I really don’t know what to do about it. He makes me not want to go to games.
complaining about incessant moaning at a Spurs game is like complaining about the sound of electric guitars at a Greenday concert.
 

SpursSince1980

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As someone has already mentioned, I think Conte needs to start thinking through what he can do to optimize what he currently has at his disposal. I'm not sure this team is capable of playing a 343 or 352 with consistency. So, he either needs to consider going 442, 4231 or a 433. I'd much rather see us playing a back 4 right now of: Tanganga, Romero, Dier and Davies. With PEH, Bentancur, Skippy in a midfield 3. And then have Kane, Sonny and Kulu up front. It at least allows us to play to a system that may get the most out of what we have. As Conte's entire tactical approach is heavily reliant on WBs who possess the ability to get up-and-down the field, play key passes, cross a ball, defend intelligently, and stay aggressive without being a complete muppet. Reggie can evolve into that after a while. But right now, he nor Emerson are close to good enough to play that role.

Oh, and on a side not... today and Brighton were good examples of just how much we have become reliant on Skippy. Although we beat Brighton, i thought Bissouma was the best midfielder on the pitch by a country mile. But I don't think he'd been as effective if Skippy has been out there to match his aggression. I'm sorry, but Winks and PEH are not our future. Especially, if we only playing a midfield 2 in Conte's system. That was clear as fuck when Bentancur came on, and immediately made a difference in midfield.
 

arunspurs

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He's an absolutely fantastic player, I think he'd be too difficult to get but he'd sort so many things for us.
That’s why I said 50-60m as fee. We will never pay that much for him considering he is 27.
 

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