Match Threads Spurs vs Sheffield United - Match Thread

[coys200]

Somehow we actually had more shots and more shots on target than ANY other team they’ve faced this season ?

 

[Up From Dover]

Brendan Rodgers in now before anyone else snags him

A nice thought but I can't see it happening. He's got a great young team at Leicester who are all playing for him and look as though they're going places.
I went to the pub after yesterday's game (who wouldn't?) and the Leicester match was on. They looked so dynamic the comparison to what Spurs had been serving up was embarrassing.
I hate to say it but on yesterday's showing they are streets ahead of Tottenham.

 

[TOMSPURS]

Still don't get the Foyth substitution for Ali yesterday, it had a huge negative reaction in the stadium. Completely deflated the atmosphere. We could easily have switched to a back 3/5 of Dier, Sanchez & Davies with Sess brought on for Ali. Sess coming on would be seen as an attacking switch & would have lifted the place.

 

[Finchyid]

Completely undeserved point. A team that got promoted were far better than us. We were slow and lacked movement and i cannot understand for the life of me why we need to play 5 at the back....shocking

 

[shelfboy68]

A nice thought but I can't see it happening. He's got a great young team at Leicester who are all playing for him and look as though they're going places.
I went to the pub after yesterday's game (who wouldn't?) and the Leicester match was on. They looked so dynamic the comparison to what Spurs had been serving up was embarrassing.
I hate to say it but on yesterday's showing they are streets ahead of Tottenham.

Compared to our team flat and predictable.

 

[Finchyid]

Still don't get the Foyth substitution for Ali yesterday, it had a huge negative reaction in the stadium. Completely deflated the atmosphere. We could easily have switched to a back 3/5 of Dier, Sanchez & Davies with Sess brought on for Ali. Sess coming on would be seen as an attacking switch & would have lifted the place.

its a complete disgrace...cost us the game imo

 

[Primativ]

I'm still happy to stay with Pochettino personally.

Can I ask on what basis? Can you point me to any evidence that he is turning this around? And when will you decide you want him replaced?

 

[John48]

Completely undeserved point. A team that got promoted were far better than us. We were slow and lacked movement and i cannot understand for the life of me why we need to play 5 at the back....shocking

Didn't play 5 at the back to start with, it was a back 4. We went to 3 at the back after we scored to try & hold on to the lead, unfortunately it didn't help & their FB's were far better at getting forward & getting crosses in than ours.

 

[TURKISH69]

6 from last 24 actually, it' not THAT fucking bad You're just trying to get Poch sacked aren't you? I mean before this 24 game run we had 4 fantastic wins in a row against the mighty Fulham, Watford, Newcastle and Leicester, who finished 19th, 13th, 11th and 9th respectively (I mean even one top-half team in that great winning sequence)

We can be a 60+ point team again, just give Poch a few more seasons to "rebuild" (apparently)

Stop talking absolute shite as an old boy next me in the game said yesterday , every team knows how to play against us and Poch hasnt got a planA, B or C doesn’t know how to mix it up anymore he’s lost and needs to go for his own sake. He’s not a winner hasn’t got a winning mentality and hasn’t won anything. More time you say he’s had over 5 yrs and won shit. Spurs fans pay top dollar to watch in a billion pound stadium watching that shite is not acceptable. Between Levy and Poch they have completely fucked it up. Not playing Moura in the champions league is the biggest mistake he has made a one off game he should of played both him and Kane. And don’t get me started on his substitutions. Going through 2 transfer windows and not evolving has caught up with us. When we beat Liverpool in Klopps first game against us we have 8 players still playing Liverpool have one says it fucking all absolute shambles ..

 

[Yanski]

We drew 0-0 but your point is valid.

No evolution of the squad.

Won nothing when all the big clubs at some point were in regression / transition. Our opportunity has been and gone with this Manager.

We are terrible to watch.

Players have stopped playing for Poch.

Whether we like it or not once that happens change is needed.

Stop talking absolute shite as an old boy next me in the game said yesterday , every team knows how to play against us and Poch hasnt got a planA, B or C doesn’t know how to mix it up anymore he’s lost and needs to go for his own sake. He’s not a winner hasn’t got a winning mentality and hasn’t won anything. More time you say he’s had over 5 yrs and won shit. Spurs fans pay top dollar to watch in a billion pound stadium watching that shite is not acceptable. Between Levy and Poch they have completely fucked it up. Not playing Moura in the champions league is the biggest mistake he has made a one off game he should of played both him and Kane. And don’t get me started on his substitutions. Going through 2 transfer windows and not evolving has caught up with us. When we beat Liverpool in Klopps first game against us we have 8 players still playing Liverpool have one says it fucking all absolute shambles ..
QUOTE="TURKISH69, post: 6583089, member: 22450"] Stop talking absolute shite as an old boy next me in the game said yesterday , every team knows how to play against us and Poch hasnt got a planA, B or C doesn’t know how to mix it up anymore he’s lost and needs to go for his own sake. He’s not a winner hasn’t got a winning mentality and hasn’t won anything. More time you say he’s had over 5 yrs and won shit. Spurs fans pay top dollar to watch in a billion pound stadium watching that shite is not acceptable. Between Levy and Poch they have completely fucked it up. Not playing Moura in the champions league is the biggest mistake he has made a one off game he should of played both him and Kane. And don’t get me started on his substitutions. Going through 2 transfer windows and not evolving has caught up with us. When we beat Liverpool in Klopps first game against us we have 8 players still playing Liverpool have one says it fucking all absolute shambles ..

 

[Gareth88]

its a complete disgrace...cost us the game imo

Agree looked like he wanted to secure the flanks and see out the game with a back 5, backfired badly and his attempt to remedy came too late

 

[Conando]

I feel the team is being completely hamstrung by the continued selection of Sissoko in CM. I know it isn’t perfect but a midfield of Winks and NDombele desperately needs a go, I would even settle for Dier at this point and he has been terrible recently.

Sissoko just isn’t good enough on the ball to play there, and it massively hampers our ability to play out from the back and through the lines.

Don’t get me wrong, Sissoko has done a job and has improved but I would not be surprised if his run in CM has coincided with our poor form; I am not sure why Poch keeps persevering with him as the “undroppable” CM and rotating the others.

I am not attacking Sissoko, I have been impressed by his improvement, but he is just not good enough with the ball to be starting anywhere near CM.

Our ability to “pass out” dramatically improved with Winks as the main option instead of Sissoko and I feel he needs to give the Winks - NDombele duo more game time.

This appears for me to be a key issue that desperately needs addressing and I can’t fathom why Poch persists with him as part of our midfield.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

We don't get enough crosses into the box you have the best centre forward in Europe playing entirely with his back to goal and Alli who relies on making runs into the box is totally negated as a player and as slowly stopped making the runs and playing deeper its a nonsense and at the other end we don't work hard enough to stop crosses coming in largely because the full backs end up playing so narrow because we don't have a defensive mdifielder who when we lose the ball drops in and becomes the 3rd centre back of sorts .

Yesterday was summed up when we had a corner and ended playing the ball hopelessly back to Aurier for a thirty five yard punt into the Paxton. Get the ball into the box (for those of you old enough to quote Micky Channon get bodies into the box and you score goals) something which Sheffield United who play old fashioned simple uncomplicated football did well.

I wouldn't get rid of the manager he has earned his chance but I can't for the life of me see the point of picking Aurier yesterday he was playing further forward than Sisssoko and he contributes nothing going forward . Stop making things so bloody complicated make defenders defend and then you do the clever things

 

[Dougal]

Why do we seem to play with urgency or tempo only in the last few minutes?

That lack of impetus is on management

@GodGomes why is this spam? unless you propose an explicit counter point, the only spam is the badge you assigned

@GodGomes and @IamSpurtacus

Nobody cares about individual ratings. Move on, it’s meaningless.

 

[dondo]

Because we have the third best squad in the league. It’s really quite simple. The problem is the manager isn’t getting anywhere near the best out of the players. How is it so difficult for you to see? Christ.

Chelsea are third with Tammy fucking Abraham upfront. Leicester are fourth with a 33 year old Vardy.

Poch is making Kane look like Andy Booth.

We certainly do not have the 3rd best squad our back 5 alone is barely top half.
How is it Pochettino’s fault that Kane looked like he was running through treacle yesterday? My only criticism towards Pochettino would be that he didn’t sub him off

 

[muppetman]

What has happened to our press?

 

[McFlash]

@GodGomes and @IamSpurtacus

Nobody cares about individual ratings. Move on, it’s meaningless.

While I agree, there are certain posters who regularly use the four negs reps left, right and centre but rarely ever contribute to the discussion.
I can understand a certain level of frustration with the repeat offenders but one off ratings are usually mistakes and not worth the effort of calling out.
When it's a run of negs, over a couple of pages, by the same one or two members, it's annoying in it's childishness and can grate a little.

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

That is utterly shameful

 

[Shadydan]

We certainly do not have the 3rd best squad our back 5 alone is barely top half.
How is it Pochettino’s fault that Kane looked like he was running through treacle yesterday? My only criticism towards Pochettino would be that he didn’t sub him off

Before a ball was kicked this season many would have agreed that we were the best equipped team to challenge the big two especially after our summer signings so for me the squad are under performing and should be doing way better.

We have the 3rd best squad in the league, only Chelsea can compare to us, the difference is though they're showing hunger whilst we are not.

 

[shelfboy68]

Before a ball was kicked this season many would have agreed that we were the best equipped team to challenge the big two especially after our summer signings so for me the squad are under performing and should be doing way better.

We have the 3rd best squad in the league, only Chelsea can compare to us, the difference is though they're showing hunger whilst we are not.

That is not just down to the manager player's need to find their self hunger and motivation.