Match Threads Spurs Vs Newcastle

[Joshua shepherd]

Jamie Carragher should be a member on here. He seems to hate Emerson Royal.

Jamie Carragher has no reason to hate royal. He is however a former right back and current pundit who has eyes and can see that he’s a glaring weakness in our mixed ability squad.

 

[Dennism]

We are putting our faith in Conte but I do worry about how we are playing. At every goal kick we just give the ball to one of the defenders and are then immediately under pressure from a high press from the opposition. This rarely ends well. At the other end we don’t press the opposition and this means that the vast majority of the game is played in our half with us defending. All other teams appear to have talented midfielders who can exploit this. Our midfielders appear to be encouraged just to run round like headless chickens and find it hard to keep possession.
In sport it is usually the person or team with the attacking intent that wins. A defensive attitude rarely prevails. Additionally, and importantly, an attacking intent is more entertaining and enjoyable. Watching Spurs this season has not been entertaining or enjoyable. We make even the worst teams look good.
I hope I am wrong but at the moment things do not bode well.

 

[spurmin]

Jamie Carragher has no reason to hate royal. He is however a former right back and current pundit who has eyes and can see that he’s a glaring weakness in our mixed ability squad.

The mixed ability squad that sits third in the league. With Emerson playing a large majority of those games.
If it wasn’t Emerson as the scapegoat on here it would be someone else.
Cant win every game despite what we all want. There are always going to be mistakes by players. Limit those and we stand a better chance.
Emerson was ok yesterday and didn’t merit Carragher’s negative comments.

 

[littlemandefoe]

Think it's just you nervous tbh. It's our best ever premier league start to a season.

Mmhmmm

 

[1882andallthat]

If Wilson had nicked ball past Lloris and the exact same challenge happened lloris b off and free kick given.

Don't know why Lloris didn't just put his boot through true ball.

I believe there's a reason why Lloris didn't just boot the ball decisively into touch.

He knows his limitations, Lloris is and always has been a poor striker of a moving ball or a dead ball, that has been evident for years, add that to when an oppsition player is close to him or closing him down and it always looks much worse, he really panics.

He's always been a great reflex save shot stopper but he has never been able to strike a ball cleanly with confidence and when he does strike it, more often than not it doesn't go very far or it skews out for a throw in panic style fashion.

Put him alongside the likes of Dier and Danchez who also often react very badly and look panicked under extreme pressure when they have the ball and they are trying to play in triangles to beat the press and it's the very essence of madness to play this way when they've all consistently shown they're really not very good at playing this way in their own box or just outside the penalty area. 7-8 times of of every 10 times they do this they look like 3 players touching the ball like its a scorching hot potato, panicked and caught like rabbits in headlights.

 

[Gilzean at the near post]

I wouldn't be confident even if we had unlimited funds in January to buy the right players. To me it seems that Conte is only interested in defence minded players even in midfield. This side is crying out for at least 2 creative players that can create opportunities for our front two and can pass a ball to their team mates. The passing in this side is diabolical if we actually manage three before we lose it it's a miracle. I look at sides with a lot less financial clout than us and many of them play a quick precise passing game that we seem totally unable to do. We had a serial winner in Mourinho but his methods seemed outdated is Conte's also. It will be interesting to watch what he does over the next few weeks but he doesn't strike me as somebody who is prepared to change his style of play.

You're absolutely right. If we did buy attack minded players Conte would have 2 or 3 defensive players ahead of them in his pecking order. Poor Gil couldn't even get on as one of five subs when we needed goals. So disappointing

 

[Joshua shepherd]

The mixed ability squad that sits third in the league. With Emerson playing a large majority of those games.
If it wasn’t Emerson as the scapegoat on here it would be someone else.
Cant win every game despite what we all want. There are always going to be mistakes by players. Limit those and we stand a better chance.
Emerson was ok yesterday and didn’t merit Carragher’s negative comments.

The mixed ability squad is exactly why we have mixed results. We have two absolutely elite strikers who will score enough goals over the course of the season. Added to that we have two very capable back ups who again will contribute enough to get us a lot of points through sheer brilliance.

Then we have a really hard working midfield with little ball playing ability but enough heart and desire to do enough to get the ball into our elite strike force.

Then we have two wing backs (doesn’t really matter who plays, some are better than others but none are good enough) who are supposed to be the most creative components of our system yet struggle to create anything throughout the game. They work hard and they get up and down but quality in the final third is pretty non existent.

And then we have our CB’s, three of them have been there for a combined 20+ years, in that time we’ve grown, peaked, declined and started to solidify again. Should all three of them still be there? Absolutely not but they’re here and sometimes they’ll be solid, we usually win those games, other times they’ll cause us problems through their own individual weaknesses. The two we’ve added are jury out but have started well.

We have a world class manager but a mixed ability squad and he’s told us this so many times, the core of this squad has seen 5 different managers in about 3 years yet some people still look at the manager as the problem. It’s not, it’s our outright lack of quality in key positions.

 

[The Apprentice]

We need to prioritise buying players who can pass a football well under pressure. We've got a whole host of players ranging from our keeper to most of our backline through to our strikers (Son/Richy) who cough up possession cheaply, or misweight passes when the going gets hot.

 

[spurs mental]

Our system heavily relies on us scoring first right now. If we don't then we are far easier to play against.

We really need to be starting games faster, and why we need Kulu or Richy back quickly. Kane and Son, great as they are, cannot do it all.

 

[tcyrus]

2 takes from that game:

1) Real cracks are starting to show in the squads confidence. Again.

2) Newcastle Arabia are on the brink of overtaking quite a few clubs. Another season and it'll be just one more club we can't keep up with.

Difficult to give a shit anymori think we

2 takes from that game:

1) Real cracks are starting to show in the squads confidence. Again.

2) Newcastle Arabia are on the brink of overtaking quite a few clubs. Another season and it'll be just one more club we can't keep up with.

Difficult to give a shit anymore.

we blew it when we let Leicester win the league,
our biggest and only chance

 

[Romulus]

these results always feel worse in the morning

 

[spursfan77]

It wasn't, get over it. It was piss weak goalkeeping.

It was bad goal keeping but it was definitely a foul. If that happens at a corner then it is a free kick to us.

 

[spursfan77]

these results always feel worse in the morning

Really? I'm the other way. A lot less bothered. We shouldn't have lost yesterday. I'm more pissed off with their time wasting and that prick Pope celebrations at the end. Players wonder why fans abuse them and that is the reason. I wouldn't condone it but he was lucky a fan didn't try and jump the barriers and lamp him.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Can't recall a game in which a defender or our keeper hasn't had a shocker..
Between them they take it in turns, sometimes in pairs to be comical.

 

[EastLondonYid]

It was bad goal keeping but it was definitely a foul. If that happens at a corner then it is a free kick to us.

It was a foul if it was your keeper and not if it was your forward, let's be honest....but I feared it would stand , it was very grey.
Usually given as a foul, but VAR are a joke, tbh I thought Sanchez touched it for Harry's goal.

All the hype about how good Newcastle were was OTT, if Sonny was on it, we could have scored 3 before they were gifted the win.

 

[EastLondonYid]

we blew it when we let Leicester win the league,
our biggest and only chance

Liverpool were dead on their feet last 30 in the CL final.
Can't help but think that too was a massive chance to re write our history.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Hugo was clumsy but the arm Wilson sticks out makes it an automatic foul. Ridiculous that VAR didn’t ask the ref to look again.

 

[spurmin]

Really? I'm the other way. A lot less bothered. We shouldn't have lost yesterday. I'm more pissed off with their time wasting and that prick Pope celebrations at the end. Players wonder why fans abuse them and that is the reason. I wouldn't condone it but he was lucky a fan didn't try and jump the barriers and lamp him.

Really surprised there was only 5 minutes added on. The time wasting was annoying and the referee didn’t seem to address it. Then again I suppose all teams do it but it was Ben Foster style yesterday.

 

[spursfan77]

Really surprised there was only 5 minutes added on. The time wasting was annoying and the referee didn’t seem to address it. Then again I suppose all teams do it but it was Ben Foster style yesterday.

The officiating was terrible yesterday. The ref just looked out of his depth from the kick off. No idea who he was, but I don't want to see him again. One of the worst decisions was perisic getting fouled near the end and he gave the free kick the other way! Just so so bad.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I know there's a lot of praise in the thread for Newcastle but the same people doing so would be slating us were the shoe on the other foot. Here's how it would go:

We had no control of the game for the opening 30 mins, conceding around 10-11 shots. Cowardly.

We then get a lucky goal from a hopeful punt, ref usually blows up for that 9/10. Then a bit of individual brilliance makes it two.

We then let them back to 2-1 second half and to be fair grind it out with some time wasting and game management. We should be aiming higher than that though and scoring 3 or 4 from the position at HT. It's not sustainable.

Newcastle looked decent and full of hunger and looked more comfortable on the ball, but that was far from impressive from them IMO. Far cry from the absolute paddling that Utd gave us.

Too many players at the club that have let multiple managers down via poor technique and/or mentality. Conte has got a decent tune out of most but I think he's starting to realise now.

Club needs to back him in January.