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MOTM

  • Gazzaniga

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Foyth

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Toby

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 39 19.9%
  • Ndombele

    Votes: 132 67.3%
  • Sessignon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lo Celso

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dele

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • Kane

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Moura

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 5 2.6%
  • None deserved

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    196

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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Levy's plan to change the manager in hope they get a tune out of the squad has backfired.

Time for the cheque book Sir.
 

alexis

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Sep 1, 2012
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Ndombele for me. At least he was positive with the ball and looked to move it forward everytime.

Aurier needs to just pack his bags and leave.

Sessegnon has also been a disappointment. Provides no impetus at all on that left flank.

We need a new RB and LB immediately. Thats the priority.
Very unfair on sess new team manager and getting used to it. Think he’ll do well for us
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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Gazzaniga again struggles on a low shot. No fault on second goal.

Aurier was unlucky on the OG, bit dreadful everywhere else. Has VAR to thank after he lost it for the offside goal, atrocious delivery throughout and constantly got behind by Lewis.

Foyth was generally ok apart from his standard monumental fuck up. Sadly, it lead to a goal. Didn’t he get the hoofball Hotspur memo?

Alderweireld seemed heavy footed, didn’t like being run at and never seemed composed today.

Vertonghen looks ready to be put out to pasture.

Sessegnon was functional today but, one cross aside, didn’t overly threaten or create. One dime performance.

Lo Celso was ok, few nice moments but never quite involved enough and not in tune with the pace of the match.

Ndombele grew into the match and was probably our best player in the end with some excellent dictating of the play and instigating of attacks. Needs a DM next to him.

Eriksen is the only player who comes close to Ndombele today, very positive in his play, nice free kick and our most likely player to create anything.

Dele was involved but he didn’t pick his moments well, too many unwarranted tricks and flicks. He was trying to force it today when at times keeping it simple would’ve been best. Off the ball he was fine.

Kane barely had a sniff and he looked tired. Like Dele it just wasn’t happening today, even looked a bit clumsy. Great penalty.

Lucas improved us. His passing was off but his constant running at Norwich kept them on the back foot.

Sanchez added much needed pace and athleticism to our defence, and was our best defender.

Lamela coming on, nicking interceptions and tackles high up, linking our attack better is why we finished the match on top and ultimately equalised.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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Levy's plan to change the manager in hope they get a tune out of the squad has backfired.

Time for the cheque book Sir.
You’re right, we were absolutely averaging 2 points per game (almost definite champions league total across a season) before Mourinho came in. Nothing has changed in the slightest.
 

whitesocks

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Jan 16, 2014
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Norwich are a midtable championship side at best. Worst side we've played so far. That is the context.
I hate to say it, but Eriksen was motm. Scored a good goal and was the only one playing football.
Credit to Moura who was lively in midfield.
Any of the others could have been subbed off early.

Special mention to those muppets Mourinho has brought with him. Just sit down.
 

Tonio

Good bloke, thorough professional.
May 15, 2008
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Whoever chose Dele as MOM is either on a childish wind up or you know sweet fuck all about football.
 

walton

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Feb 28, 2006
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Very disappointed with GLC.
Love the cut of Ndombele’s jib.
Aurier is a very poor RB.
Lamela looked ok.
Pukki’s beard is an abomination.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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Gazzaniga 3 - pathetic attempt at stopping the 1st goal
Aurier 1 - diabolical at both ends of the pitch
Vertonghen 1 - thanks for the service but he’s finished at the top level, legs have gone
Alderweireld 5 - poor in the 1st half but he was playing in a wide open back 3 with 2 personnel changes. Improved in the 2nd half
Foyth 1 - atrocious, accident waiting to happen and it did
Sanchez 5 - 2 poor mistakes early 2nd half but improved as the game went on
Sessegnon 5 - defended well when moved to left back but he was like Bambi going forward... he needs to express himself but we need to remember he’s still very young and has lots to learn
Lo Celso 5 - tried, got stuck in but no end product. The complete lack of movement by the forward players did him no favours. With a competent DM I think he’ll flourish
Ndombele 7 - My MoM, started poorly and looked lost but greatly improved in the 2nd half. Again as per Lo Celso he’s got an exciting future if we play a DM as well
Eriksen 6 - scored a free kick (via a deflection), had a lot of the ball but too much side ways passing and as always his corners were a joke
Alli 2 - clearly not match fit, wasteful, stupid fancy flicks, no movement
Kane 3 - another whom wasn’t match fit, won a pen and scored it
Moura 4 - came on and lifted the game with intensity and enthusiasm but he then completely forgot how to pass the ball
Lamela 3 - ran around a bit, nothing of note
 
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Lenn0n

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Jan 9, 2011
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Special mention to those muppets Mourinho has brought with him. Just sit down.
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Dunno about the Muppets - but I like to see the manager up on his feet, alert, obviously watching. I loved Poch but he spent too much time sitting down. Obviously the players will be on their toes if they feel the manager is watching them. If you watch Guardiola this is what he does - he has lots of presence in the technical area.
 

ohtottenham!

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Aug 15, 2013
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Alli looked shagged at kick off. That was plain to see. Shouldn't even have started imo. He has this kind of frustrating and ineffective game when his body needs a rest.

Having Moura, with his speed and movement, and Kane as a starting front two would have stretched their defence much more and allowed Eriksen, Lo Celso and Ndombele to exploit the spaces. Alli should have been a sub, but that goes back to the issue of our squad options.

I know we had chances in that first half, but we were also totally out of shape on the counter. They weren’t stretched by our front two, and could confidently move forward in formation when we lost possession. And they were threatening when they did. They could have been two up before HT if not for that hairline offside VAR decision.

Foyth fucked up big time, but I think Jose got it wrong with his line up in the first place, especially up front. It just welcolmed pressure, and we were more vulnerable with the likes of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Sessegnon and Foyth all getting blooded in at the same time.

Things changed with Moura's intro second half. We gained control of the game, 'cause they were stretched from defence, their MF had to withdraw defensively. Their second goal was just one of those "spursy" things that happens. Hated it when it went in, but loved how we we were playing at the time despite that.

We should have won that game. Eriksen and Ndombele together...we got a whiff today of that potential pairing, and it looked outstanding!
 

ohtottenham!

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Aug 15, 2013
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Foyth was generally ok apart from his standard monumental fuck up. Sadly, it lead to a goal. Didn’t he get the hoofball Hotspur memo?
He actually wasn't ok. In fact...Pulp Fiction reference... before and after he was gimped for their first goal...he was very far from ok. Any time he was challenging an attacker in the box,...I was screaming, "Don't do it, Juan!" I was glad and relieved he was taken off at HT.

He ain't good for the heart health of any dedicated Spurs fan of advancing years.
 
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BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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He actually wasn't ok. In fact...Pulp Fiction reference... before and after he was gimped for their first goal...he was very far from ok. Any time he was challenging an attacker in the box,...I was screaming, "Don't do it, Juan!" I was glad and relieved he was taken off at HT.

He ain't good for the heart health of any dedicated Spurs fan of advancing years.
I had my heart in my mouth too each time he had a 1v1, but I also had the clarity to note that not once was he beaten in those situations, nor did we concede a cross, nor did he fail to regain possession.

The horrible mistake ruined it.
 

Klinsmannic

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Jun 22, 2011
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We need to be patient with Foyth. He'll learn. I want him to dribble out with the ball, he just needs to pick the right moments to not do it.
 

DCSPUR

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Apr 15, 2005
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A game where those who have doubts about investment have a stronger case.
Question one: Was Toby worth the contract and the effusive praise or is he in fact in decline and couldn't find anyone else to pay him the money we would?
Question two: Is Jan worth a contract extension or is he another that time is fast catching up with?
Question three: Rose - is he one that Levy should have got out of the club in the summer even on low terms because he is a shadow of the player he once was and is not trusted by Jose?
Question four: Aurier - is he one for the present or future or should Levy have sold him this summer, even with a discount, and gone for a better RB?
Question five: Can Dier come back from 2 years of injury/ sickness? Or is even his champion Jose recognizing that, sadly, he may be a shadow of the player he once was? Is he worth a new contract or is it a question of simply avoiding paying for a replacement?
Question six: Despite his first semi decent game in months, is it worth trying to get Eriksen to sign or is he in fact mentally stale and needs to be in a new club?
Of course this does not even begin to get into the fact that Wanyama is still at the club and our back up keepers or worth peanuts etc.

Unless you are a BSofL it is evident to all, including Jose, that this squad is in need of a massive overhaul. Seem to remember a former manager who had the same thought....
 

spuradik

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Aug 31, 2012
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Gazzaniga again struggles on a low shot. No fault on second goal.

Aurier was unlucky on the OG, bit dreadful everywhere else. Has VAR to thank after he lost it for the offside goal, atrocious delivery throughout and constantly got behind by Lewis.

Foyth was generally ok apart from his standard monumental fuck up. Sadly, it lead to a goal. Didn’t he get the hoofball Hotspur memo?

Alderweireld seemed heavy footed, didn’t like being run at and never seemed composed today.

Vertonghen looks ready to be put out to pasture.

Sessegnon was functional today but, one cross aside, didn’t overly threaten or create. One dime performance.

Lo Celso was ok, few nice moments but never quite involved enough and not in tune with the pace of the match.

Ndombele grew into the match and was probably our best player in the end with some excellent dictating of the play and instigating of attacks. Needs a DM next to him.

Eriksen is the only player who comes close to Ndombele today, very positive in his play, nice free kick and our most likely player to create anything.

Dele was involved but he didn’t pick his moments well, too many unwarranted tricks and flicks. He was trying to force it today when at times keeping it simple would’ve been best. Off the ball he was fine.

Kane barely had a sniff and he looked tired. Like Dele it just wasn’t happening today, even looked a bit clumsy. Great penalty.

Lucas improved us. His passing was off but his constant running at Norwich kept them on the back foot.

Sanchez added much needed pace and athleticism to our defence, and was our best defender.

Lamela coming on, nicking interceptions and tackles high up, linking our attack better is why we finished the match on top and ultimately equalised.
Spot on with your assessment of all them except Foyth, which I thought was a bit harsh.

I felt Foyth got unfairly punished for that mistake by being subbed off by Mourinho. He's very young for a CB and an excellent ball player and did very well up to that point. Pairing him on the right with Aurier was inevitably his undoing. He got caught in possession as he was trying to find Serge who clearly had not made himself available for that pass. For what it's worth, I thought Toby could've done so much better by closing down Pukki when Foyth lost the ball. Instead he backed up towards his own goal giving Pukki space to shoot.

But I agree with what you said in your post about Toby and Verts, they're just a shadow of their former selves. I'm questioning why we even gave Toby a new contract.

Foyth will learn from this, but will Mourinho give him another chance where he desperately needs to be playing regularly.
 

ohtottenham!

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Aug 15, 2013
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We need to be patient with Foyth. He'll learn. I want him to dribble out with the ball, he just needs to pick the right moments to not do it.
It's even before the dribble. It's defensive awareness. He lost possession because of his poor first touch. That looked like a lack of concentration, because he's not focused on the basics as a defender. He has the vision as a footballer to advance possession for attacks, but there's not the defensive awareness.

To me, he's a weird player. He's positionally solid and aware, both defensively and in attack. He's great going forward with his vision and distribution.

In defence, he'll get in the right place, and good coaching has helped him do that. But, he's exposed every time he's taken on by an attacker with any speed or nous. Just the way I see him as a player.

I know he's young. I could be very wrong, but to me, he doesn't have the basic, defensive awareness required of any defender across our back line...CB or RB. Defensive CM potential I could see.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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We need to be patient with Foyth. He'll learn. I want him to dribble out with the ball, he just needs to pick the right moments to not do it.

He’s got ‘some’ of the raw attributes to be a very good defender but for now he’s both too weak physically and mentally. His decision making leaves a lot to be desired too. I think the best thing for Foyth is as per Poch’s view is to mould him into a right back and when he matures shift him to centre back. As a full back and taking into account his level of maturity he can be a solid full back as per Ben Davies. Until we sign two quality attack minded full backs the reliance on width needs to be shifted to Moura, Sessegnon and Son.
 

whitesocks

The past means nothing. This is a message for life
Jan 16, 2014
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A game where those who have doubts about investment have a stronger case.
Question one: Was Toby worth the contract and the effusive praise or is he in fact in decline and couldn't find anyone else to pay him the money we would?
Question two: Is Jan worth a contract extension or is he another that time is fast catching up with?
Question three: Rose - is he one that Levy should have got out of the club in the summer even on low terms because he is a shadow of the player he once was and is not trusted by Jose?
Question four: Aurier - is he one for the present or future or should Levy have sold him this summer, even with a discount, and gone for a better RB?
Question five: Can Dier come back from 2 years of injury/ sickness? Or is even his champion Jose recognizing that, sadly, he may be a shadow of the player he once was? Is he worth a new contract or is it a question of simply avoiding paying for a replacement?
Question six: Despite his first semi decent game in months, is it worth trying to get Eriksen to sign or is he in fact mentally stale and needs to be in a new club?
Of course this does not even begin to get into the fact that Wanyama is still at the club and our back up keepers or worth peanuts etc.

Unless you are a BSofL it is evident to all, including Jose, that this squad is in need of a massive overhaul. Seem to remember a former manager who had the same thought....
Toby was sort of owed that money for playing so well at a discount for the last few years. He could have done a good job at ManU and arsenal if he wanted to stay in the prem.

I like Vertonghen but the club spent a fortune on Sanchez in the expectation Aldeweireld was off, and he is the future. If Sanchez (who probably can't speak english yet) strikes up a good partnership with Toby, Vertonghen is too good/expensive to sit on the bench every week, and not flexible enough to cover both CB positions. It is not looking good for him.

Rose doesn't seem to be trusted and will be pulling his hair out. He needs to leave ASAP for the good of his health.

Aurier is clumsy. That will not change. Plus his crossing was shocking today. We needed width to break them down, but he could not provide it against a weak side. But he has a good understanding with Sissoko and has had some good games.

Dier's main understanding at his peak was with Eriksen Those days are gone but I think he is still a very useful utility player.

Eriksen had a good game today, corners aside. But he is going.

Poch only knows why Wanyama is still at the club.

My questions from today are why Sessegnon and Lo celso were so ordinary against a 3rd rate side. They can't be tired as they haven't played. This was their big chance to make an impression. I'm prepared to believe they are both great players, but give me something!
 

Finchyid

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I have watched a different match if tanguy is mom. For me they were all poor except lamela
 
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