Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[Japhet]

The entourage thing comes down to the French press always running the "sources close to the player" stories the day after he doesn't play. Someone seems to be mouthing off to them quite often. I wouldn't be suprised if his agent has been looking for a move for a while, even during lockdown when N'Dombele was sorting his shit out.

Either that or it's complete fabrication from the media who have fuck all else to write about.

 

[p.l.edmonds]

I too have been underwhelmed by Ndombele fitness. That's the obvious concern. But we've seen this countless of times: New player arrives and fails to deliver. The upside is that most of the time they improve. Some improve massively after their first season. Son is the obvious example. Sissoko is another.

I'm not sure I'd say that 'most' improve. For every Son or Sissoko (maybe Lamela falls into that bracket too, though it took him a lot longer), there are a handful of N'koudous, N'Jies, Soldados, Paulinhos, Stamboulis, Chiriches, Holtbys, Janssens, Fazios (sorry for reminding everyone of that lot...)

 

[DanNolan]

Let’s be honest also the manager has a huge bearing on all of our opinions. If Poch were in charge I don’t think we’d be worried about keeping him as we believe he will try get the player we expected outve him.
As is the case when a manager comes in that hasn’t bought the player and then doesn’t seem to rate them.... I just worry whether that can change. I hope so much it can as I think his ceiling is twice as high as all of our other midfielders but I certainly can’t argue that he’s been up to it so far.

 

[marky07]

As many have already mentioned, it’s seems difficult to believe we didn’t realize that he wasn’t always the most committed.

The guardian posted this last summer, so if they were able to find out it must have been clear to our scouting team...?

Tanguy Ndombele: the complete midfielder … as long as he is focused

Tanguy Ndombele, Tottenham’s record signing from Lyon, resembles Mousa Dembélé or Michael Essien at his best but his attitude and fitness have been questioned in the past

www.google.de

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

What I really don't understand why we have changed our transfer policy, before we were signing young players with potential relatively cheap because of club or contract situations.

Now we are signing cast offs from the bigger clubs. Aurier, Lucas and even Sissoko (not a cast off but older and the finished product), this is not our style and that's true of Barca and inter casts offs as well.

We got to where we are today by signing, eriksen, Dele, dembele, verts, lloris, dier, wanyama, walker, rose, bale, etc because they were young promising players who we developed into class players.

I don't mind the odd experienced player, relatively cheap but spending 20-30m on players who have either failed at other clubs or are past 25 is west ham policy.

Just go back to signing young promising players from the continent and at home and this is the big thing... Play them!

 

[Yiddo100]

Just go back to signing young promising players from the continent and at home and this is the big thing... Play them!

GLC, ndombele, bergwijn, gedson ,Clarke, sessegnon?

 

[emiley heskey]

As many have already mentioned, it’s seems difficult to believe we didn’t realize that he wasn’t always the most committed.

The guardian posted this last summer, so if they were able to find out it must have been clear to our scouting team...?

Tanguy Ndombele: the complete midfielder … as long as he is focused

Tanguy Ndombele, Tottenham’s record signing from Lyon, resembles Mousa Dembélé or Michael Essien at his best but his attitude and fitness have been questioned in the past

www.google.de

When we were linked with ndombele, couple of posters already talked about his inconsistency and not committed ... His attitude was always in question by his previous managers

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

When we were linked with ndombele, couple of posters already talked about his inconsistency and not committed ... His attitude was always in question by his previous managers

a bit like Yaya Toure? Absolutely class when he switches it on but also looks to be skating by at times?

 

[wrd]

As many have already mentioned, it’s seems difficult to believe we didn’t realize that he wasn’t always the most committed.

The guardian posted this last summer, so if they were able to find out it must have been clear to our scouting team...?

Tanguy Ndombele: the complete midfielder … as long as he is focused

Tanguy Ndombele, Tottenham’s record signing from Lyon, resembles Mousa Dembélé or Michael Essien at his best but his attitude and fitness have been questioned in the past

www.google.de

To be fair to the club, they mentioned when he joined (through Poch) that he would take a couple of seasons to settle. The mouth pieces for Spurs have recently come out with the same info they came out with 6 months ago which was Levy really believes in this player and that when they signed him the club knew he would take a while to adapt thus the 6 year commitment on the contract.

Yet people will still call it poor mental application and want him sold in an instant, completely ignoring all the noises coming from the club. Did they hope things would go smoother for him? Yes of course however they were seemingly prepared for this scenario.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I hope he ends up realising his potential with us, as if he does we’ll have a superb player.

 

[he is you know!]

In response to who might not be here next season...

Ndom

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Seems mad to give up so soon, but i highly doubt we would give up on him like that unless we knew there was something genuinely irreparable about his personality.

 

[dtxspurs]

If Skriniar can get back to his best then you're looking at a very good CB. I suppose that swap wouldn't be the end of the world. I'd definitely prefer to keep Ndombele though. If we get Brozovic & Skriniar I still think we need to bring in some more creativity. We really struggled to break down teams if it weren't for counter attacks.

 

[bat-chain]

Seems mad to give up so soon, but i highly doubt we would give up on him like that unless we knew there was something genuinely irreparable about his personality.

His personally or someone elses.

 

[King of the Lane]

So sad if this ends up with him leaving. Genuinely think he could light up the prem and make us into challengers. Shame that it looks like it will never happen whether that be to his attitude/mentality or Jose. As much as I hate to say it, it really does look like its only going to end with him gone rather than a turn around.

 

[Led Revolver]

I think we’ve got to remember that not only has Mourinho had a problem with Ndombele, Pochettino obviously did too. This tells me that Ndombele is the one with the problem. If you don’t want to play for Tottenham, that’s the real problem - whether that’s for Mourinho, Pochettino, whoever - it doesn’t matter who the manager is in all honesty. Tottenham is what matters.

We simply cannot afford to pay £200k a week to someone who can’t be bothered.. I’d love to ask Stevie P what he makes of him!

Potential is great in players who can be bothered and would bleed for the cause. If they won’t, we reboot and push on. If Levy could get the £65m back and invest in someone like Grealish, would you really rather carry on watching Ndombele kick his heels around instead!?

 

[Japhet]

So sad if this ends up with him leaving. Genuinely think he could light up the prem and make us into challengers. Shame that it looks like it will never happen whether that be to his attitude/mentality or Jose. As much as I hate to say it, it really does look like its only going to end with him gone rather than a turn around.

Reminds me of Robiho at Man City. They paid a fortune for him and he couldn't cut it. I'd love Ndombele to come good but Mourinho isn't the sort to be patient in the hope that happens. If he goes and we get a decent deal I'm OK with it and if he stays I'll hope for the best and dream of us having a truly sensational player on our books.

 

[McFlash]

As much as I'd like him to stay and be success, one of the things that that concerns me is the impression that if you clatter him early, he tends to lose stomach for the fight. This may be something to do with him being concerned about his little niggling injuries but it may be something else.
I remember the Octopus being a bit of a pussy for a while too - get clattered at a corner and he was pretty much crying, feigning injury and wanting to come off.

 

[samspurs92]

Don’t forget Trix gets his info from the agent side of things which is a very different perspective to JJ’s side of things.

Tanguy’s agent could be pushing a deal for him to leave but if the club are saying no then it would be very conflicting messages.

If JJ comes in and agrees with Trix then it would seem all the rumours are true but the club line is a firm one so far, we don’t want to sell him.

 

[bat-chain]

Thing is, while it isn’t just Mourinho who has had a problem with him. Mourinho has had a problem with many top players, turned whole squads against himself. And struggled to stay in employment longer than a couple of years anywhere he's been.

if a player had the record he has, his personality would be questioned. We simply can’t be sure the problem is just Ndombele.