Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[teok]

This thread is like a honey pot.

 

[spursfan77]

It’s because the fans have created and perpetuated a False narrative where he has a bad attitude and falsifies injruries to not play for us. One mans rumour swiftly becomes another mans truth; when a person says “oh What if he’s not actually injured he’s saving himself for a transfer” down the line our fans see that as fact.
For a spurs fan base who value flair and technique there is such a great deal of negativity and hate towards a maverick player. But if his face doesn’t fit they just don’t take to him.
It’s really sad to see and we could be losing a potential world class player and trying to buy in CM when our stock will be at its lowest for years.

People keep saying this but honestly, he’s done nothing more in his brief appearances than Adel Taarabt did. At least Adel could last 80 minutes in games though and not 20. He will never be a world class player if he can only play for that long. The world is littered with this type of player, it’s just a shame it’s come to fruition here with us. I’m amazed the amount of grace people are willing to give a £60m signing on £200k a week. It’s not football manager, we can’t afford to have a depreciating asset like him sat around doing nothing.

This just needs to be put down as a bad transfer from all parties and get him off the books for a decent fee. If we got £40 million for him and that bought us 2/3 players in the positions we need it we’d be a better team and squad for it. Now more than ever that has to be the chairman and manager’s mindset and I suspect it will be. They have more information on the player in behind the scenes data than we see so will make a decision based on that too and act accordingly.

 

[emiley heskey]

Meanwhile inter wants to sell Eriksen. Can we bring eriksen and replace ndombele with him?

 

[DogsOfWar]

You simply can't have you're record signing contributing nothing over a season and let it continue.
We would be better off selling him and bringing in a couple of 7/10 type players, such as DM and RB, to actually have an effect on the starting line-up.

If he ends up being a baller somewhere else in the future then good luck to him but we need effective players now.

It's also worth pointing out had he turned up for us this season then Poch may have still been in a job.
He went a summer without buying anyone to ensure he got his man with Levy shelling out a club record fee.
I have no doubt that his lack of early season promise must have contributed to Levy's view on if his manager was the right man to turn things around.

 

[ultimateloner]

Mourinho has ostracized many players at various clubs, many of which are higher profile than Nombele. Ozil at RM, Martial at Man U. It's part of his plan and who he is.

Ozil was CR's top assister and Martial was Man U's key player; both of them are more important to their clubs than Nombele is to us. Mourinho always seems to win these type of battles. Lack of tracking-back is what's common to both these players.

So its very likely that Nombele falls into a similar category of 'talented but not solid' player that JM hates. The only players who get away with this are strikers who could play on their own.

I dont see a way out for Nombele unless he changes his game significantly. I think he still has time, but the signs aren't good because he hasn't played enough since the re-start when we have 2 games every week.

I think alot of the time you just have to accept that a player wont adjust to the methodology of a coach/club. For example take Dimitri Payet; doubtless talent, but no way he would work under JM. The same goes to Nombele i feel.

 

[emiley heskey]

Mourinho has ostracized many players at various clubs, many of which are higher profile than Nombele. Ozil at RM, Martial at Man U. It's part of his plan and who he is.

Ozil was CR's top assister and Martial was Man U's key player; both of them are more important to their clubs than Nombele is to us. Mourinho always seems to win these type of battles. Lack of tracking-back is what's common to both these players.

So its very likely that Nombele falls into a similar category of 'talented but not solid' player that JM hates. The only players who get away with this are strikers who could play on their own.

I dont see a way out for Nombele unless he changes his game significantly. I think he still has time, but the signs aren't good because he hasn't played enough since the re-start when we have 2 games every week.

I think alot of the time you just have to accept that a player wont adjust to the methodology of a coach/club. For example take Dimitri Payet; doubtless talent, but no way he would work under JM. The same goes to Nombele i feel.

When exactly mourinho ostracized ozil from real madrid????? I highly doubt you watch ozil under Mourinho at real madrid ...

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/03/...est-xi-of-players-he-has-ever-worked-wit/?amp

 

[danielneeds]

When exactly mourinho ostracized ozil from real madrid????? I highly doubt you watch ozil under Mourinho at real madrid ...

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/03/...est-xi-of-players-he-has-ever-worked-wit/?amp

Indeed, I’m no Jose happy clapper, but Ozil was sold because Perez needed money to buy Bale, his next galactico.

 

[emiley heskey]

Indeed, I’m no Jose happy clapper, but Ozil was sold because Perez needed money to buy Bale, his next galactico.

When ozil was sold, Mourinho was not even the coach of real madrid ...

 

[HodisGawd]

Mourinho has ostracized many players at various clubs, many of which are higher profile than Nombele. Ozil at RM, Martial at Man U. It's part of his plan and who he is.

Ozil was CR's top assister and Martial was Man U's key player; both of them are more important to their clubs than Nombele is to us. Mourinho always seems to win these type of battles. Lack of tracking-back is what's common to both these players.

So its very likely that Nombele falls into a similar category of 'talented but not solid' player that JM hates. The only players who get away with this are strikers who could play on their own.

I dont see a way out for Nombele unless he changes his game significantly. I think he still has time, but the signs aren't good because he hasn't played enough since the re-start when we have 2 games every week.

I think alot of the time you just have to accept that a player wont adjust to the methodology of a coach/club. For example take Dimitri Payet; doubtless talent, but no way he would work under JM. The same goes to Nombele i feel.

And Juan Mata. He was Chelsea's player of the year before Mourinho returned. Jose bombed him out.

I totally agree with a lot of what people have said here re Ndombele.

The guy has to go. What is the point of him?

 

[emiley heskey]

And Juan Mata. He was Chelsea's player of the year before Mourinho returned. Jose bombed him out.

I totally agree with a lot of what people have said here re Ndombele.

The guy has to go. What is the point of him?

And he played mata back in man utd on a regular basis ... He had oscar, cesc, willian in mata's place and he was happy to let him go for 40m which was obviously high back in 2014 .... It was a good bit of business for chelsea

 

[buckley]

Any way what a brilliant move by Jose to get Ozil moved on before he arrived at Real Madrid . He is one overated player a bit like Eriksen .

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Any way what a brilliant move by Jose to get Ozil moved on before he arrived at Real Madrid . He is one overated player a bit like Eriksen .

Errr, Mourinho and Ozil joined Madrid in the same summer, Mourinho built the side around Ozil, and Ozil left the same summer as Mourinho.

 

[Japhet]

If Ndombele goes I’ve got a sneaking suspicion it’ll be to PSG. They’re one a small handful of clubs who have been unleashed by the CAS decision in the City case, and they’ve been strongly linked. It’s plausible to me that we might be able to get a big fee from them.

As far as I'm aware the decision to overturn Man City's ban was taken because a lot of what they were accused of happened before the FFP rules were in place. Because we now have pretty strong FFP rules and clubs know that they will be punished for transgressions, I think (hope) it will still be effective and I don't expect the whole spending agenda to descend into a free for all again.

 

[Insomnia]

A bit like when half the idiots on here convinced themselves lamela was a junkie

That would explain why he's so shit

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Starting to think Hojbjerg has been his replacement all along. Maybe Jose wants Lo Celso at 10 with two holding players in the double pivot.

Hopefully as this could work really well.
Get some good money back on Ndombele, then get Hoyjberg and a RB with the Ndombele money and possibly even still some cash to spare.

 

[austinfh]

Hopefully as this could work really well.
Get some good money back on Ndombele, then get Hoyjberg and a RB with the Ndombele money and possibly even still some cash to spare.

there's not enough creativity in a midfield of Højbjerg and presumably Winks/Sissoko, we would really regret binning off Ndombele, I know he's had a dreadful season but it would be stupid to give up on him so easily

 

[emiley heskey]

Hopefully as this could work really well.
Get some good money back on Ndombele, then get Hoyjberg and a RB with the Ndombele money and possibly even still some cash to spare.

Hojberg is not Ndombele's replacement ... He is wanyama replacement whom we sold in january ...

 

[Monkey boy]

Coutinho would be good, he can score some worldies ... But if jose can get one of Partey or SMS, our team will be transformed to another level ...

that’s what was being said last summer when we were targeting Ndombele and Lo Celso. Just a shame the whole other level was below where we already were.

 

[punkisback]

People keep saying this but honestly, he’s done nothing more in his brief appearances than Adel Taarabt did. At least Adel could last 80 minutes in games though and not 20. He will never be a world class player if he can only play for that long. The world is littered with this type of player, it’s just a shame it’s come to fruition here with us. I’m amazed the amount of grace people are willing to give a £60m signing on £200k a week. It’s not football manager, we can’t afford to have a depreciating asset like him sat around doing nothing.

This just needs to be put down as a bad transfer from all parties and get him off the books for a decent fee. If we got £40 million for him and that bought us 2/3 players in the positions we need it we’d be a better team and squad for it. Now more than ever that has to be the chairman and manager’s mindset and I suspect it will be. They have more information on the player in behind the scenes data than we see so will make a decision based on that too and act accordingly.

Have you not watched him play? At times he has come in and turned the game around. He has scored goals and his forward passing is unreal. He’s had a much greater impact than Taraabt. And he was injured a lot too earlier. Can’t believe you attribute his performance to Poch getting sacked. That is reaching.

 

[spursfan77]

Have you not watched him play? At times he has come in and turned the game around. He has scored goals and his forward passing is unreal. He’s had a much greater impact than Taraabt. And he was injured a lot too earlier. Can’t believe you attribute his performance to Poch getting sacked. That is reaching.

He’s had more nothing games than good games. From our record signing it’s not good enough. Bored debating it actually because there’s nothing that can be said that can convince me this transfer has been anything but a disaster.

I never said he got Poch sacked.