Player Watch Player Watch - Lucas Moura

[Marty]

The piece of play eary in the first half where he collected the ball on the left, dribbled past two players but just blasted it wide from 20 yards instead of looking for options summed up Lucas' entire game for me. He can create havoc when his touch is with him, but he's a horribly heads down player, with far too little awareness of where his teammates are around him.

He can work as an impact player, good to bring on against tiring legs, but I would hope he wouldn't be a regular starter when everyone was fit.

 

[Havre]

The piece of play eary in the first half where he collected the ball on the left, dribbled past two players but just blasted it wide from 20 yards instead of looking for options summed up Lucas' entire game for me. He can create havoc when his touch is with him, but he's a horribly heads down player, with far too little awareness of where his teammates are around him.

He can work as an impact player, good to bring on against tiring legs, but I would hope he wouldn't be a regular starter when everyone was fit.

Love his attitude. Seems like a brilliant guy. Perfect squad player, but what you describes is the reason why he never lived up to his hype moving to PSG.

Not that he is our main concern at the moment, but we really need another Son type player. Right now Son and Lucas are the ones giving us some pace. Remove one of them and we are left with players like Alli, Lo Celso, Lamela, Eriksen etc. - just too slow. Sissoko got some pace, but obviously not an attacking player that will contribute with much in terms of goals and assists.

 

[Primativ]

Love his attitude. Seems like a brilliant guy. Perfect squad player, but what you describes is the reason why he never lived up to his hype moving to PSG.

Not that he is our main concern at the moment, but we really need another Son type player. Right now Son and Lucas are the ones giving us some pace. Remove one of them and we are left with players like Alli, Lo Celso, Lamela, Eriksen etc. - just too slow. Sissoko got some pace, but obviously not an attacking player that will contribute with much in terms of goals and assists.

I actually really disagree with you there. Son is a good player, great on his day but he is also quite a heads down player. Not as heads down as Lucas, but not far off. We need more intelligent wide players, but unfortunately they don't grow on trees.

I just fear having another Son on the other side will do nothing for improving our chance creation nor fluidity in attack. Son is nearly as bad as Moura when it comes to giving the ball away/losing possession. Having another one of those on the other side won't improve our attack very much.

I think having one Son type direct pacey attacker is fine alongside Kane. The other side needs to be more of a Lamela type, but ideally with less injuries and slightly more pace/end product. A Mahrez or Bernardo Silva type of player.

Unfortunately Liverpool have it perfect, they have pace and intelligence. They just hardly ever give the ball away that front three, compared to ours anyway. Son and Moura are quite stupid footballers, it sounds harsh but it's reality.

 

[Havre]

I actually really disagree with you there. Son is a good player, great on his day but he is also quite a heads down player. Not as heads down as Lucas, but not far off. We need more intelligent wide players, but unfortunately they don't grow on trees.

I just fear having another Son on the other side will do nothing for improving our chance creation nor fluidity in attack. Son is nearly as bad as Moura when it comes to giving the ball away/losing possession. Having another one of those on the other side won't improve our attack very much.

I think having one Son type direct pacey attacker is fine alongside Kane. The other side needs to be more of a Lamela type, but ideally with less injuries and slightly more pace/end product. A Mahrez or Bernardo Silva type of player.

Unfortunately Liverpool have it perfect, they have pace and intelligence. They just hardly ever give the ball away that front three, compared to ours anyway. Son and Moura are quite stupid footballers, it sounds harsh but it's reality.

Fair enough. I didn't mean it that literally - as in a pure copy of Son, but someone with some pace and who is better than Lucas.

Lamela with pace and end product - is more or less the same to me - as that Son-type I was thinking of.

And even if Son is no Bergkamp he is a lot better than Lucas at seeing things. To me he is not good, but acceptable when it comes to football intelligence. Not sure if Mane is any better. He was also a bit of a headless chicken at times for Southampton, but playing for what has become a "machine" in Liverpool he looks smarter.

Grealish doesn't have the pace we are talking about, but I wonder how that could work with someone like Sessegnon playing that hybrid full back role Aurier is currently playing in. Anyway - that is a digression.

 

[punkisback]

I actually really disagree with you there. Son is a good player, great on his day but he is also quite a heads down player. Not as heads down as Lucas, but not far off. We need more intelligent wide players, but unfortunately they don't grow on trees.

I just fear having another Son on the other side will do nothing for improving our chance creation nor fluidity in attack. Son is nearly as bad as Moura when it comes to giving the ball away/losing possession. Having another one of those on the other side won't improve our attack very much.

I think having one Son type direct pacey attacker is fine alongside Kane. The other side needs to be more of a Lamela type, but ideally with less injuries and slightly more pace/end product. A Mahrez or Bernardo Silva type of player.

Unfortunately Liverpool have it perfect, they have pace and intelligence. They just hardly ever give the ball away that front three, compared to ours anyway. Son and Moura are quite stupid footballers, it sounds harsh but it's reality.

Ziyech is that RW that we so crave.

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

I love that people talk like Son doesn't do exactly what Lucas does in terms of head down, and maybe not producing a decent end product. How many times on Saturday did you see a team mate in a better position frustrated because Son was trying to hard to be the hero? Maybe pass the damn ball occasionally Son. Son gets a pass because one time out of 100,000 he does like he did in December against Burnley, or against Chelsea. Doesn't change the fact his decision making is poor at times.

Cheers Lucas is crying.

 

[Hakkz]

I love that people talk like Son doesn't do exactly what Lucas does in terms of head down, and maybe not producing a decent end product. How many times on Saturday did you see a team mate in a better position frustrated because Son was trying to hard to be the hero? Maybe pass the damn ball occasionally Son. Son gets a pass because one time out of 100,000 he does like he did in December against Burnley, or against Chelsea. Doesn't change the fact his decision making is poor at times.

Cheers Lucas is crying.

Was thinking the same thing. That's exactly what Son does when he's not at his best.

 

[Primativ]

Fair enough. I didn't mean it that literally - as in a pure copy of Son, but someone with some pace and who is better than Lucas.

Lamela with pace and end product - is more or less the same to me - as that Son-type I was thinking of.

And even if Son is no Bergkamp he is a lot better than Lucas at seeing things. To me he is not good, but acceptable when it comes to football intelligence. Not sure if Mane is any better. He was also a bit of a headless chicken at times for Southampton, but playing for what has become a "machine" in Liverpool he looks smarter.

Grealish doesn't have the pace we are talking about, but I wonder how that could work with someone like Sessegnon playing that hybrid full back role Aurier is currently playing in. Anyway - that is a digression.

Mane is a much more intelligent player than Son unfortunately. Son is really just a solo goal getter. Mane is a tremendous team player.

 

[Havre]

Mane is a much more intelligent player than Son unfortunately. Son is really just a solo goal getter. Mane is a tremendous team player.

Revisionist history in my opinion. I think Son would have been amazing for that Liverpool team - and not sure if Mane would do much more than Son for us. Obviously Mane has developed from his Southampton days, but I remember people joking about Liverpool once again paying too much for a good, but not top class player.

Anyway. A bit off topic. I guess we agree on Lucas.

 

[TropicalYid]

Lucas has done well since Jose arrived.
But it worries me that he seems to lose the ball quite often. And when he does it gives our opponents a chance to counter on us.

 

[Noryid]

People slate Son from todays match, but not Moura? Im finished with him, lazy AF today. Only one good involvement, the rest was total shit..

 

[Zoltar60]

Moura can't play as a striker period. Son has shown in the past he can. Should swap positions in next match IMO. Still runs into blind alleys at times too.

 

[Havre]

Not sure if I would ever call Lucas lazy, but I do not understand why him and Son can´t at least swap places at times during games.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Yeah I'd rather see Sonny leading the line and Moura out wide. He has great feet but he isn't a front man. I wouldn't call him lazy either. He tries hard but against a well drilled defense that sits deep he isn't the answer.

 

[Noryid]

Ok I may be too harsh here. But I watched him all game, he drifts too much. And when there suddenly is an attack, he is somewhere out of position when his teammates are trying to find him. Son and Moura are kind of similar, they dont fit together. They take up each others spot, in a way. Sorry for my bad english.

 

[JCRD]

People slate Son from todays match, but not Moura? Im finished with him, lazy AF today. Only one good involvement, the rest was total shit..

Lazy? The guy has worked tirelessly from start to finsh. You can accuse him of many things but laziness isnt it.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

He ran but gasoline as JM was not full, i dont blame him as its a thankless task especially when your the only font man that presses hard and fast with no help, also hes doing this is so many games, cant be expected all the time without help from others to share the load

 

[Danny1]

Will always love the guy for that goal against Ajax however I just don’t think he is actually that good. He is a semi decent premier league winger, similar level as Delofeu, Iwobi etc.

Not really good enough for the top teams as he lacks in final quality, lots of running, hard work and endeavour, very little end product.

 

[double0]

Moura and Son are just so inconsistent but on their game they can distroy anyone.

I would like us to get Lemar or Hakim Ziyech to complement the squad

 

[Montalbano]

Needs to be playing on the right wing. He’s not a striker. Both him and Son are so much more effective playing wide than central.