Lucas Moura airs right-wing views and compares communism to Nazism

[TheChosenOne]

Next stop: S.S. Lazio

 

[Metalhead]

Left wing rag in winger’s alleged right wing beliefs.
He’s a very religious young man going through life on a wing and a prayer , I doubt this story has legs

Tbf I believe that right wing conservatism is not exactly rare in what is a traditional Catholic country.

 

[Dennism]

Very sad. Not a nice man.

 

[Styopa]

Lucas is entitled to his views. But when he makes those views public on a platform as highly as visible as Twitter he is making himself accountable for those views. He is literally broadcasting his political viewpoint to millions of people and quite possibly influencing significant numbers of people to vote for Bolsonaro. There are lots of reasons why people in the UK voted for UKIP or why people in the US voted for Trump but I would still challenge those views.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Tbf I believe that right wing conservatism is not exactly rare in what is a traditional Catholic country.

What astounds me is the nations queueing up to accuse Brazil's government of various crimes while in their own recent pasts have been complicit in genocides, ethnic cleansings, state sponsored executions of their own citizens and abroad.

But as long as they get the coffee, minerals, crude oil, meat and livestock while standing back and watching the Amazon rainforest disappear then they are complicit.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

What astounds me is the nations queueing up to accuse Brazil's government of various crimes while in their own recent pasts have been complicit in genocides, ethnic cleansings, state sponsored executions of their own citizens and abroad.

But as long as they get the coffee, minerals, crude oil, meat and livestock while standing back and watching the Amazon rainforest disappear then they are complicit.

Their hypocrisy does not justify Bolsonaro's policies and rhetoric, nor Lucas' public support for them.

Your post is not exactly both-sides-ism, but it's something closely related to it.

 

[Metalhead]

What astounds me is the nations queueing up to accuse Brazil's government of various crimes while in their own recent pasts have been complicit in genocides, ethnic cleansings, state sponsored executions of their own citizens and abroad.

But as long as they get the coffee, minerals, crude oil, meat and livestock while standing back and watching the Amazon rainforest disappear then they are complicit.

Certainly all countries should be taking responsibility for their part in the destruction of the rainforest. It's tragic how much of it has been laid waste. I'm not going to think any less of Moura for his views. I certainly don't agree with him and I can't stand Bolsanaro - just another tinpot populist but you know, he's entitled to his views.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Their hypocrisy does not justify Bolsonaro's policies and rhetoric, nor Lucas' public support for them.

Your post is not exactly both-sides-ism, but it's something closely related to it.

Considering my first post was actually tongue in cheek and "punnish" I am rather pleased it has got people thinking.

Surely that can't be bad ? "The left and right wing belong to the same bird"

There's too much at stake in this world and until all politicians across the globe come together, look at themselves and stop being so self serving instead of looking after their own interests while leaving the poorest in abject misery then something has to be done.

 

[karennina]

and he is, just because you don't agree with his political views doesn't change that fact.

Seriously, the presumption by libs that anyone holding conservative views must be personally evil, is just so boringly wrong at this point. We're past that.

 

[Snuzzy]

Seriously, the presumption by libs that anyone holding conservative views must be personally evil, is just so boringly wrong at this point. We're past that.

Bojack: I'm not a bad person

Diane: But you do bad things, and that's worse

 

[dontcallme]

Seriously, the presumption by libs that anyone holding conservative views must be personally evil, is just so boringly wrong at this point. We're past that.

A wonderful generalisation.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

A wonderful generalisation.

Like what’s been done to Lucas

 

[WeGotLedley]

Hold on, he compared communism to nazism, while playing at spurs. I'm sorry but not grasping that playing at a club whose fans who shout yid army, should mean at the very least, this might be a somewhat dim thing to say? FFS

 

[deka_spur]

Because there's a line and Bolsonaro is a long way on the other side of it. His politics are about depriving other people of their liberties, based on characteristics those people can do nothing about. He's a racist, a homophobe, a sexist and a religious bigot.

That makes him much like a Nazi. Many of his policies are explicitly neo-fascist. He is also, not incidentally, like many other neo-fascists, anti-semitic, although I'd have to spend some time I haven't got hunting down the not-well-publicised evidence.

Simply put: I don't want players who support Nazis to play for our club. But I don't get to decide, so he will continue to do so and I hope he scores goals for us. I also hope we play an opponent with a gay Jewish player who will take Moura's legs right out from under him every time he gets the ball

I haven't even mentioned that Bolsonaro is the world's most dangerous anti-environmentalist.

I get what your saying, but not allowing someone to work, play or participate in society because they cross your ideological line is not the answer. The moment you start doing that you are becoming that society that you hate so much and it actually creates more division.

 

[whitesocks]

I think Moura is saying he wants to be released early from his contract, and I have to agree, he makes a strong case.

 

[ralvy]

Hold on, he compared communism to nazism, while playing at spurs. I'm sorry but not grasping that playing at a club whose fans who shout yid army, should mean at the very least, this might be a somewhat dim thing to say? FFS

I think the legacy of the likes of Mao and Stalin makes that comparison more than fair.

 

[Jules77]

1) erm, me. I do. Why would you not care?
2) what's great about democracy is when ordinary people are empowered so they can live fulfilling lives with their Fundamental rights and dignities protected.
"Opposing views providing balance" is often in practice "hey, I want to stomp all over the vulnerable, horde wealth and burn down the planet", "I don't want to be stomped on and would like the planet to survive", "ok let's compromise and have a whole load of stomping and planet destroying but also, I dunno, some meagre public services and a bit of recycling"

Exactly. Hate shouldn’t be protected by ‘it’s ok to have different political viewsz’.

he can have the complete opposite views on fiscal policy, education, healthcare etc and I’ll defend his democratic right to hold his views. Hate and oppression? Nope. And invoking God is not a get out of jail free card either.

 

[Jules77]

Seriously, the presumption by libs that anyone holding conservative views must be personally evil, is just so boringly wrong at this point. We're past that.

It’s not the conservative views part. It’s the oppression and hate part.

 

[carmeldevil]

Cancel the statue build

 

[karennina]

Exactly. Hate shouldn’t be protected by ‘it’s ok to have different political viewsz’.

he can have the complete opposite views on fiscal policy, education, healthcare etc and I’ll defend his democratic right to hold his views. Hate and oppression? Hope. And invoking God is not a get out of jail free card either.

Who defines what "hate" is? Oh that's right, it's whoever your political opponents are, when they want to silence you