Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Adam456]

I was just thinking that currency is constantly subject to fluctuation so is it that important how the pound is performing now, given that any fee will be staggered anyway?

I'd be amazed if the FX Risk hasn't been managed, knowing that they'd need a hatful of Euros this summer and with Brexit, ridiculous PM, possible GE

 

[RJR1949]

I’m not worried about this. For all we know, Poch could’ve told Levy “it’s Lo Celso, or it’s nobody” similar to last year when Levy was unable to get De Jong and Ndombele for various reasons.

If that is the case and GLC is the only player Poch wants, it definitely makes sense to wait and save money. Betis need to sell and GLC would’ve missed most of pre season regardless so waiting would make no difference.

For the record, I’m getting pretty tired of reading the Levy hate on this forum. It honestly makes no sense to call Levy tight when the man above him, Joe Lewis, a multi billionaire, is giving us nothing.

Unlike the Glazers or the Kroneke’s, Joe Lewis has not sought to take money out of the club. He did not buy the club by loading it with debt to third parties. He has not lent the club money and paid himself interest. He’s not charged the club consultancy fees for strategic advice. He’s not paid himself a salary.

He has been an excellent steward of the club.

It’s not the job of the owner to give the club anything.

 

[Metalhead]

"I am not in charge, I know nothing about the situation of my players. I am only coaching them, trying to get the best from them."

Despite everyone criticising some fans for worrying over our lack of transfers, the plain facts are that Pochettino is clearly frustrated at present as per his comment above. He asked us to act like a big club over the Summer which I don't think we have. I think it's clear he wanted a few players in early so they were involved in pre season and aprt from N'Dombele, it hasn't happened. Personally, what frustrates me the most is that we are so close to being top contenders and we only need 2 quality players. The foundations are already there. Now I'm not saying go and spend £300 million, but surely £100 million on 2 further quality players is too much? Record profits, record kit deal and the stadium is now finished. Plus we've also got Trippier, Vorm, Llorente & Janssen off the wage bill. If we can't spend now then we never will.

 

[RJR1949]

"I am not in charge, I know nothing about the situation of my players. I am only coaching them, trying to get the best from them."

Despite everyone criticising some fans for worrying over our lack of transfers, the plain facts are that Pochettino is clearly frustrated at present as per his comment above. He asked us to act like a big club over the Summer which I don't think we have. I think it's clear he wanted a few players in early so they were involved in pre season and aprt from N'Dombele, it hasn't happened. Personally, what frustrates me the most is that we are so close to being top contenders and we only need 2 quality players. The foundations are already there. Now I'm not saying go and spend £300 million, but surely £100 million on 2 further quality players is too much? Record profits, record kit deal and the stadium is now finished. Plus we've also got Trippier, Vorm, Llorente & Janssen off the wage bill. If we can't spend now then we never will.

Please don’t shout at me.

 

[McFlash]

The info i get and have got has aways been reality, be it positive or negative. Maybe if some people get their info from agents who like to spin a story and use the media to their benefit but my info comes from a very high level and so its the truth, positive or negative...

You shouldn't feel the need to explain yourself.
We trust you and the info you give and, most of us, understand that things can always change. That doesn't mean that the snippet wasn't correct at the time of posting.
I have no idea why people feel the need to judge our verified itk's.

 

[Scott Spur]

I’m not worried about this. For all we know, Poch could’ve told Levy “it’s Lo Celso, or it’s nobody” similar to last year when Levy was unable to get De Jong and Ndombele for various reasons.

If that is the case and GLC is the only player Poch wants, it definitely makes sense to wait and save money. Betis need to sell and GLC would’ve missed most of pre season regardless so waiting would make no difference.

For the record, I’m getting pretty tired of reading the Levy hate on this forum. It honestly makes no sense to call Levy tight when the man above him, Joe Lewis, a multi billionaire, is giving us nothing.

Waiting could well make a huge difference.

- We've either sold half our squad in recent times without more than one solitary replacement or we haven't.
- We either made a ton of cash in the PL and then in making the CL final, or we didn't.
- We either posted world-record profits before the CL campaign, or we didn't.
- We either just signed a massive sponsorship deal, or we didn't.
- We've either got a huge uplift in gate receipts to look forward to, or we haven't.
- DL either said that player purchases would be unaffected by the stadium costs, or he didn't.

Joe Lewis may well give us 'nothing' but there seems to be a whole load of cash being made elsewhere that rarely makes its way to the team. There's no shame in being a bit skint after building such an amazing stadium but front up and say so, rather than act completely against what the facts suggest.

We've had ITK that Poch is pissed over this, we've seen a presser with him clearly unhappy and backing that up. Promises were clearly made to the manager in the face of competition for his signature from the worlds elite clubs. IF Levy stacks Lo Celso up over a few quid then the consequences could easily be us looking for a new manager in 9 months. The guy is too principled to be screwed over constantly.

Let's hope we do land GLC and in fact, rainbows & butterflies shine out of DL's arse on a daily basis, as some seem to believe. If not, there's going to be problems the like Levy hasn't yet seen, on & off the pitch.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

 

[thekneaf]

Waiting could well make a huge difference.

- We've either sold half our squad in recent times without more than one solitary replacement or we haven't.
- We either made a ton of cash in the PL and then in making the CL final, or we didn't.
- We either posted world-record profits before the CL campaign, or we didn't.
- We either just signed a massive sponsorship deal, or we didn't.
- We've either got a huge uplift in gate receipts to look forward to, or we haven't.
- DL either said that player purchases would be unaffected by the stadium costs, or he didn't.

Joe Lewis may well give us 'nothing' but there seems to be a whole load of cash being made elsewhere that rarely makes its way to the team. There's no shame in being a bit skint after building such an amazing stadium but front up and say so, rather than act completely against what the facts suggest.

We've had ITK that Poch is pissed over this, we've seen a presser with him clearly unhappy and backing that up. Promises were clearly made to the manager in the face of competition for his signature from the worlds elite clubs. IF Levy stacks Lo Celso up over a few quid then the consequences could easily be us looking for a new manager in 9 months. The guy is too principled to be screwed over constantly.

Let's hope we do land GLC and in fact, rainbows & butterflies shine out of DL's arse on a daily basis, as some seem to believe. If not, there's going to be problems the like Levy hasn't yet seen, on & off the pitch.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

You wrong

 

[he is you know!]

Thanks for this. The Dybala one is funny in the sense that it seemed to catch everyone off guard although to my knowledge, noone has said it's rubbish.

I guess no one expected Juvenfus to contact us and others offering him, when they did we have to consider it. Was always stated it was a slim chance anyway for a variety of reasons probably.

 

[Liamyid28]

Betis till date has paid only the 3m loan fee. Even this 22mEUR is not repaid yet. So, how ever you look at it, asking 4 times the PSG fee is just not on.

Why not? Didn’t Lyon sign n’dombele for under 10mill just last season?

 

[Tucker]

3rd post in and he's gone with the big bold text early out the gate.

It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see how it plays out.

 

[thelak]

I'm not a Levy hater by any stretch, but any capital put in by Lewis would dilute Levy's shareholding in Spurs, which is now worth a very significant amount of money.

It would dilute his stake but of a bigger amount - it shouldn’t really matter if Lewis put any capital in unless the implied price he does so is way below the market value

Especially if the capital is used productively so the total worth of the enterprise grows

 

[samsonlevi]

appreciate this has nothing to do with GLC but what exactly are you doing in your pram that makes it such a "great time"? my curiosity gets the better of me sometimes

Playing with my toys.

 

[punkisback]

Joe Lewis became a billionaire through trading currencies (and I would be stunned if he hadn’t made a little (several million) out of the decline of the £ in recent weeks). There is nobody better placed to advise on and mitigate foreign exchange risks.

So I would expect the club to have bought Euros forward or to have bought options to guard against the depreciation of the £.

This is correct, we'd have definitely bought Euros to mitigate this. Levy bought his own steel for the cranes in the stadium to mitigate loss of value from brexit!

 

[JCRD]

Betis till date has paid only the 3m loan fee. Even this 22mEUR is not repaid yet. So, how ever you look at it, asking 4 times the PSG fee is just not on.

I agree its a high amount but let's not get all high and mighty.

Levy would do the same... He is just being played at his own game...

 

[Real_madyidd]

"I am not in charge, I know nothing about the situation of my players. I am only coaching them, trying to get the best from them."
Despite everyone criticising some fans for worrying over our lack of transfers, the plain facts are that Pochettino is clearly frustrated at present as per his comment above. He asked us to act like a big club over the Summer which I don't think we have. I think it's clear he wanted a few players in early so they were involved in pre season and aprt from N'Dombele, it hasn't happened. Personally, what frustrates me the most is that we are so close to being top contenders and we only need 2 quality players. The foundations are already there. Now I'm not saying go and spend £300 million, but surely £100 million on 2 further quality players is too much? Record profits, record kit deal and the stadium is now finished. Plus we've also got Trippier, Vorm, Llorente & Janssen off the wage bill. If we can't spend now then we never will.

YOU WHAT?

 

[Hoopspur]

The info we've been given is that we've twice agreed a fee with Betis and both times they've upped the price. I'm pretty sure that if it was as simple as offering 5m extra it would be done by now. It seems pretty obvious to me that Levy has to hold tight until Betis run out of time to fuck us around. Either that or you set a deadline and walk away once that has expired but that 100% doesn't get you the player that Poch wants. As ITK have said, Levy is at the poker table.

I have not read the upping of price anywhere. I’ve probably missed it. I’ve heard the terms have changed twice.

This imo may be as simple as amount up front, duration of payment or sell on?

 

[Stamford]

Waiting could well make a huge difference.

- We've either sold half our squad in recent times without more than one solitary replacement or we haven't.
- We either made a ton of cash in the PL and then in making the CL final, or we didn't.
- We either posted world-record profits before the CL campaign, or we didn't.
- We either just signed a massive sponsorship deal, or we didn't.
- We've either got a huge uplift in gate receipts to look forward to, or we haven't.
- DL either said that player purchases would be unaffected by the stadium costs, or he didn't.

Joe Lewis may well give us 'nothing' but there seems to be a whole load of cash being made elsewhere that rarely makes its way to the team. There's no shame in being a bit skint after building such an amazing stadium but front up and say so, rather than act completely against what the facts suggest.

We've had ITK that Poch is pissed over this, we've seen a presser with him clearly unhappy and backing that up. Promises were clearly made to the manager in the face of competition for his signature from the worlds elite clubs. IF Levy stacks Lo Celso up over a few quid then the consequences could easily be us looking for a new manager in 9 months. The guy is too principled to be screwed over constantly.

Let's hope we do land GLC and in fact, rainbows & butterflies shine out of DL's arse on a daily basis, as some seem to believe. If not, there's going to be problems the like Levy hasn't yet seen, on & off the pitch.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

I don't really understand how anyone can argue against this

 

[weststandyid]

To be honest, Poch could come out after the game and say “Lo Celso is the player I’ve wanted all summer to the degree I’d spaff over his mum’s chops to illustrate my desire to have him in the squad” and Levy would drop the offer by €3m because that’s what we seemingly do.

Did the

Betis till date has paid only the 3m loan fee. Even this 22mEUR is not repaid yet. So, how ever you look at it, asking 4 times the PSG fee is just not on.

I'm struggling to understand the rationale here and what it has to do with anything?

we didn't even pay for kane, so he must be worth peanuts.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I don't really understand how anyone can argue against this

Maybe turn it into a flier and drop them from a moving plane with a banner flying behind it with Levy out on it?

I see the #backpoch movement is doing well on twitter, it's all about us now!

Like the other lot down the road, be hard to laugh at them at this rate, we're fast becoming them.

 

[walworthyid]

Waiting could well make a huge difference.

- We've either sold half our squad in recent times without more than one solitary replacement or we haven't.
- We either made a ton of cash in the PL and then in making the CL final, or we didn't.
- We either posted world-record profits before the CL campaign, or we didn't.
- We either just signed a massive sponsorship deal, or we didn't.
- We've either got a huge uplift in gate receipts to look forward to, or we haven't.
- DL either said that player purchases would be unaffected by the stadium costs, or he didn't.

Joe Lewis may well give us 'nothing' but there seems to be a whole load of cash being made elsewhere that rarely makes its way to the team. There's no shame in being a bit skint after building such an amazing stadium but front up and say so, rather than act completely against what the facts suggest.

We've had ITK that Poch is pissed over this, we've seen a presser with him clearly unhappy and backing that up. Promises were clearly made to the manager in the face of competition for his signature from the worlds elite clubs. IF Levy stacks Lo Celso up over a few quid then the consequences could easily be us looking for a new manager in 9 months. The guy is too principled to be screwed over constantly.

Let's hope we do land GLC and in fact, rainbows & butterflies shine out of DL's arse on a daily basis, as some seem to believe. If not, there's going to be problems the like Levy hasn't yet seen, on & off the pitch.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

I'm sorry but I just cant help myself here. What on earth are you talking about?

Seriously?

So you believe that you go and broadcast to the world exactly what you have and what you can spend? What do you think the result of that will be when negotiating players purchases and sales?

That because the stadium is built that it is paid for?

That we are all privy to the conversations between poch and levy?

It is this kind of idiotic rambling that make sc such an infuriating place to be during the transfer windows.

See you all next week.