Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

[Hoopspur]

He was actually pretty good back end of last season. People have short memories.

He did ok but is not a good footballer. He is unable to play the ball first time and to even get it under control to do well with his second touch is a problem. This is not a short memory as this is a running joke all around me in the South.

I have never doubted his commitment and his effort but to suggest otherwise is not right. I have taken to watch him, probably more than healthy, but have to say for someone who has come through Ajax then he does not play football well. He has certain attributes- strongish and reasonable pace.

Having said that I was there on Saturday and would never boo a player, other than 1 I’ve mentioned in this thread a while back (and close to 2). And to be clear I was also there on the night of the Ghaly match. Let’s get this right. He did not deserve to be booed, as no one should, but I can’t concede he does ok as some form of defence for the way he plays. Once again I’m not sure the club bought the Rolls Royce they were obviously after. Big Dave 🫣

 

[chas vs dave]

He did ok but is not a good footballer. He is unable to play the ball first time and to even get it under control to do well with his second touch is a problem. This is not a short memory as this is a running joke all around me in the South.

I have never doubted his commitment and his effort but to suggest otherwise is not right. I have taken to watch him, probably more than healthy, but have to say for someone who has come through Ajax then he does not play football well. He has certain attributes- strongish and reasonable pace.

Having said that I was there on Saturday and would never boo a player, other than 1 I’ve mentioned in this thread a while back (and close to 2). And to be clear I was also there on the night of the Ghaly match. Let’s get this right. He did not deserve to be booed, as no one should, but I can’t concede he does ok as some form of defence for the way he plays. Once again I’m not sure the club bought the Rolls Royce they were obviously after. Big Dave 🫣

He isnt good enough in possession, but a decent defender. He needs to move on for his own career as well.

He had a few good games last season. Vs arsenal at home, City at home, wolves away, to name a few.

Didn't deserve the boos though. I have never booed a player individually, I may have booed the team once or twice in over 300 odd games.

 

[Zaphod]

I know the father of a current premier league player (not a Spurs player). He tells me he has learnt to switch off when he hears people shouting abuse at his son when he's in the stands (although he admitted he's had a few slanging matches in the past). Most of the abuse comes from frustration and ignorance (i.e sometimes the player is being asked to fulfil a role and the fans can't see it or understand why).
However, the players DO hear it and no matter how 'tough' mentally they might be it certainly doesn't help.
Despite all the instagram posts and 'doing it for the fans' spiel most see it as a job.

 

[newbie]

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He isnt good enough in possession, but a decent defender. He needs to move on for his own career as well.

He had a few good games last season. Vs arsenal at home, City at home, wolves away, to name a few.

Didn't deserve the boos though. I have never booed a player individually, I may have booed the team once or twice in over 300 odd games.

I don’t think his a decent defender, he makes to many mistakes, he can have good games but his not ever going to play consistently well over a season like Dier

 

[Gpnash84]

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

 

[mickdale]

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

Heard abuse of many a white player at spurs so think that’s a load of bollox

doesn’t mean I’m right though as I don’t have a window into peoples souls

one of the first players I saw this to was Terry Fenwick. Heard Venables was booed when the joined spurs in the 60s but wasn’t there so can’t say for certain.

spurs are known for the potential of a hostile crowd when things go wrong

 

[chas vs dave]

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I don’t think his a decent defender, he makes to many mistakes, he can have good games but his not ever going to play consistently well over a season like Dier

Yet, he has made less errors that have lead to a goal than romero.

I've seen as many howlers by dier. Liverpool at home, for example

 

[newbie]

Yet, he has made less errors that have lead to a goal than romero.

I've seen as many howlers by dier. Liverpool at home, for example

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Sitting behind them, there is a world of difference

P.s did you look at the penalties conceded ?

And own goals

So his been responsible for 2 own goals and 5 pens and you are defending him?

 

[chas vs dave]

Sitting behind them, there is a world of difference

P.s did you look at the penalties conceded ?

And own goals

So his been responsible for 2 own goals and 5 pens and you are defending him?

I'm not defending him, I am just using an example to demonstrate that he doesn't make as many mistakes as people make out. I just find it funny when fans ignore errors by favourites.

he's also played 3 times more games.

I did say that he needs to move on.

 

[guy]

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

That sounds like some typical 2023 bollocks. Bringing that into this fiasco is shocking behaviour, as bad as the booing ffs!

 

[guy]

As others have said it appears to me as if Sanchez was the punching bag that many fans used to air their built up frustration and rage at everything the club has put us through over the last few week, months and years.

Wrong place at the wrong time. I think the same scenario could have played out targeting any number of players in his place. If for whatever reason Levy walked onto the pitch, or was shown on the screen at that time, Im sure he would have received the same or worse abuse.

 

[Sierragls]

Go in

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

yeah I was going to post about this as well. I don’t agree with booing but it didn’t even enter my mind that he and royal for that matter got booed, I would like to think that every who did boo only booed due to the frustration they feel with the team and Sanchez was on the end of it because of his terrible performances not because of his skin colour. I nearly turned the pod cast off when this came up, when everything gets turned around to racism I personally think it does more harm than good, because it dilutes the real racial problems can makes the message end up being just a bit of white noise because people will switch off when they hear it.

 

[Freddie]

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

It's happened for the first time after 6 years of putting in disappointing performances. The fans have actually been really patient. The racial element is nonsense in this case.

 

[Gpnash84]

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yeah I was going to post about this as well. I don’t agree with booing but it didn’t even enter my mind that he and royal for that matter got booed, I would like to think that every who did boo only booed due to the frustration they feel with the team and Sanchez was on the end of it because of his terrible performances not because of his skin colour. I nearly turned the pod cast off when this came up, when everything gets turned around to racism I personally think it does more harm than good, because it dilutes the real racial problems can makes the message end up being just a bit of white noise because people will switch off when they hear it.

Yes I felt the same. Hearing Charlie Eccleshare going full Prince Harry talking about unconscious bias was condescending and cringeworthy.

 

[Monkey boy]

Yes I felt the same. Hearing Charlie Eccleshare going full Prince Harry talking about unconscious bias was condescending and cringeworthy.

especially when they handpicked a few examples like Rob Holding whilst conveniently forgetting that Harry Maguire gets dogs abuse from both his own supporters and rival fans. The booing of Davinson Sanchez and Emerson Royale whilst deplorable had nothing to do with unconscious bias or racism and for them to try and claim that it was as others have said dilutes the message about tackling real racism.

thought it was quite telling that Danny Kelly kept his mouth shut throughout that little segment as I guess he probably thought it best to not call them out on that for fear of being labelled something that he clearly isn’t.

 

[cookiemonster]

Sell him and close this thread

Been saying this for years

 

[longtimespur]

Sell him and close this thread

Been saying this for years

Ah a stitch in time eh!

 

[C1w8]

I wondered what people thought of the view expressed on the ‘view from the lane’ (athletic) podcast that there was a racial element to Sanchez being booed? Personally thought that was well wide of the mark, particularly the suggestion this booing only happens to non Caucasian players in England (Harry Maguire and Granit Xhaka both recent examples) but interested to know if others saw this differently to me? I didn’t go on Saturday but have never heard or noticed our non white players treated differently ever. Either way it was sad to see what happened and I hope we don’t see a repeat.

Can't claim to have listened to the Pod you mention but as with anything around the issue of race there's a lot of nuance to it, but just going off the points you raise:

• Dont think it's true that only non-caucasion players get booed.
• Is there a racial element to Sanchez (and I'm adding Royal here also as the stick he got was ridiculous and sustained) getting booed? In my opinion from 25+ years of going to home games, it likely plays a part, to what degree is debatable, but it's there (again imo) if we want to be honest about our fanbase.

 

[DarwinSpur]

The racial element is a very long bow to draw given the same boo boys have treated players like Harry Winks as bad or worse both in stadium and online.

The booing of Sanchez was despicable behaviour by a boorish and not insignificant minority of our fan base. This isn't new or a surprise.

What I find a bit galling is the likes of TVFTL; Alistair Gold and Extra Inch all pearl clutching over Sanchez when ALL OF THEM contributed to the ridiculous pile on of Emerson Royal earlier this season. Week after week of singling Royal out when he was never any worse than any other Spurs player - but they all had a hard on for Djed Spence. They contribute to the atmosphere then express surprise when others follow their lead.

 

[Gassin's finest]

He was belting alongside Jan in his first season, when we used to play high pressing, attacking football. Negative, backs to wall defending, scared to make a mistake football will make anyone look shit.