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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

spursgirls

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Poor Sanchez got the backlash of the fans' general discontent on top of the poor performance. The frustration of the fans landed fully on him sadly. I wish we could explain this and the fact that most people abhor the booing of our players when they are trying their best. No-one ever plays better from being booed. To reduce one of our players to tears is just ridiculous.
 

Buggsy61

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Pretty much echoing what most people have said. Saturday has to be one of my really low points as a Spurs fan and we have all had a few.
I thought the way Sanchez was treated by a certain section of the fan base was truly disgusting and I couldn't quite believe it. The guy is having a bad time - his confidence is low and because he has been out of the team his form has suffered, but I never got the impression that he is not trying.
All you can ever ask of someone in any walk of life is to give their best, and if that is not good enough to help them move onto something else, but to try and totally crush them is not going to help anybody.
I don't think its a Spurs fan only problem - most fanbases are just a cross section of society, and turn on the team at some points. There is just an element of nasty and self entitled people with zero emotional intelligence about - its just the way it is.
I felt like turning in my season ticket on Saturday night, after 24 years, but have already promised my friends I will renew, but I can't wait for this club to have the root and branch reset that it really needs. Its not the results that get to me, but simply the toxicity and chaos that has dogged our club for too many years now.
Everything is there for success, but it just needs someone to run it properly and bring everyone together. I truly believe that one day someone will get it right, but I think we need to reinvent ourselves and have a couple of years building back before that happens. No more wash, rinse and repeat.
Just hope the people who behaved so disgracefully on Saturday have a long hard look at themselves, but that might be too much to ask.
 
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Freddie

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If we're winning our next home game comfortably would be good to see him come on. Will get a cracking reception. Hopefully he doesn't give away a pen.
 

jolsnogross

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It seems straightforward enough to explain. People are really hacked off and tired of seeing rubbish football from players who have been playing rubbish football for years. I doubt they mean for players to take it personally. But it is reactive to what they are witnessing. Royal went through it and came out of it with tons of plaudits from the stands.

All this hand wringing and holier than thou nonsense is a bit over the top. Stadium atmosphere is created by 'mob-like' behaviour and it's not always positive.
 

McArchibald

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If we're winning our next home game comfortably would be good to see him come on. Will get a cracking reception. Hopefully he doesn't give away a pen.
Nah - it's Premier League football, not some kind of School Game. No offense but that's not the winning mentality we need to foster at the club. We want to win every game by as wide a margin as possible, even if we only have pride to play for. Sentiments don't count.
The best payers have to play and Sanchez is not amongst them. Nothing personal against him but he doesn't warrant being given more playing time. He should have been shipped out long ago...
 

easley91

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Sanchez has never come out and complained about anything. He just gets on with it. He has always been a good professional.
 

ralphs bald spot

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it was poor management on Saturday taking him off - the crowd you pays your money you make your choice - but he will never play again and who can blame him - I stood next to someone blaming him or the equaliser unbelievable felt sorry for the bloke
 

Freddie

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Nah - it's Premier League football, not some kind of School Game. No offense but that's not the winning mentality we need to foster at the club. We want to win every game by as wide a margin as possible, even if we only have pride to play for. Sentiments don't count.
The best payers have to play and Sanchez is not amongst them. Nothing personal against him but he doesn't warrant being given more playing time. He should have been shipped out long ago...
I agree with most of that. I was actually one of the first to be confused about what someone saw in him to justify the spend, but by the same token being treated like shit by the fans shouldn't be part of football either. Things like that can be quite damaging and it might go a long way to helping his current state. I think it's a small gesture that I'd be willing to make if we're 2-0 up in injury time. He just needs to hear a roar, hopefully a decent memory to leave him with because we need to sell this summer.
 

Freddie

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It seems straightforward enough to explain. People are really hacked off and tired of seeing rubbish football from players who have been playing rubbish football for years. I doubt they mean for players to take it personally. But it is reactive to what they are witnessing. Royal went through it and came out of it with tons of plaudits from the stands.

All this hand wringing and holier than thou nonsense is a bit over the top. Stadium atmosphere is created by 'mob-like' behaviour and it's not always positive.
Yeah but I doubt as he was being booed and then cheered off the pitch by tens of thousands he thought 'ah this isn't aimed at me, it's them venting their anger at years of squad mismanagement'. Fans should take responsibility for how their lack of emotional control can be harmful.

Stadium atmosphere isn't the same everywhere. Not all clubs behave like this towards one of their own. It would have been better to boo the performance without targeting one individual.
 

wrd

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When you have a manager who is controlling and never relinquishes the vice grip, the players learn not to trust their instincts and honestly, I mean Son literally said directly that he was told not to. A lot of these players have the ability but it takes time for them to learn to trust themselves again. There was a debate before about Conte's style as somebody on here was a sports psychologist and I said that drills work really well into something because second nature. Unfortunately if a manager let's go of control, you go past a point where players motor systems shut down. This isn't Sanchez specific but I'm just trying to articulate why the fans berating the players is a huge mistake.
 

carpediem991

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it was poor management on Saturday taking him off - the crowd you pays your money you make your choice - but he will never play again and who can blame him - I stood next to someone blaming him or the equaliser unbelievable felt sorry for the bloke

it was poor management taking him on. It was a good call to take him off, as we improved in another shape without him. Obviously the booing didnt help anyone.
 

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I generally struggle to get into the mindset of fans who boo our own, even when they're not having a great game - everyone has struggles now and then.

The abuse he got at the weekend, I'm fucking ashamed of that.

I'm sure that a huge number of people now don't have the capacity to consider how it feels, all they think of is how it made THEM feel, how THEY demand a result or a performance and how, if they continue to give you a heap of shit, you'll somehow improve. It's backwards, I would LOVE to see how any one of those giving him so much bullshit would do if a ton of strangers turned up at their work and started calling them a **** for having a bad day.

Support the team, support the players. If you're going to point a finger at anyone then how about start with the managers - they pick the team, no player is going to say, "Sorry boss, nah, not feeling it and the crowd hate me, so I'd rather not play" - of course they're going to go out there and try...

Fuck, I hate football fans so much sometimes. A lot of you need to have a word with yourselves. Your frustration is no reason to destroy one individual players mental health and self esteem - fuck you.
 

wrd

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it was poor management taking him on. It was a good call to take him off, as we improved in another shape without him. Obviously the booing didnt help anyone.

Could have taken Dier Off for the shape imo, alternatively move Porro to the left and a CB to RB but to take the guy off who had been on for 20 minutes sucked. I think the reason I say this was because then we could have seen whether the crowd was booing Sanchez or booing the back 5 and then perhaps Sanchez wouldn't have had to have taken the personal hit if the crowd changed it's tune once we went back 4.
 

Mr Pink

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It seems straightforward enough to explain. People are really hacked off and tired of seeing rubbish football from players who have been playing rubbish football for years. I doubt they mean for players to take it personally. But it is reactive to what they are witnessing. Royal went through it and came out of it with tons of plaudits from the stands.

All this hand wringing and holier than thou nonsense is a bit over the top. Stadium atmosphere is created by 'mob-like' behaviour and it's not always positive.

What a load of shit.

You don't boo your own players.

That's not support.
 

Dr Know

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Management made the choice to play him. The blame lays squarely with them.
Sanchez has not been a great signing and has not shown anything to prove that he could have made a difference to the game but yet still management puts him in.
I would like to think that the booing was directed at management and not necessarily the player…….however I think I might be wrong.
The fans will be the downfall of this club and just have Levy another pass.
What manager/player would want to sign for a club where the fans behave like this? Also regardless of how poor Sanchez has been, he’s been at the club for quite some time and I’m sure some of not all the players are feeling his pain. Could just be another reason for some of them to start thinking of moving on too.
 

ajspurs

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The image of him on the bench after being substituted is the saddest thing. Could have easily walked straight down the tunnel as well due to not only being booed but by being a substitute being substituted which no one likes but still went to sit down without a complaint.

So much I hate about this club right now and that's before even thinking about the actual football being played.
 

jbstarr14

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It seems straightforward enough to explain. People are really hacked off and tired of seeing rubbish football from players who have been playing rubbish football for years. I doubt they mean for players to take it personally. But it is reactive to what they are witnessing. Royal went through it and came out of it with tons of plaudits from the stands.

All this hand wringing and holier than thou nonsense is a bit over the top. Stadium atmosphere is created by 'mob-like' behaviour and it's not always positive.
Level-headed people demonstrating that they are decent human beings who don’t hold with the vicious, spiteful, cowardly abuse of one of our own players is “‘Holier than thou’ nonsense”?

Fuck me…

And fuck any **** who thinks it’s okay.
 

spursgirls

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The image of him on the bench after being substituted is the saddest thing. Could have easily walked straight down the tunnel as well due to not only being booed but by being a substitute being substituted which no one likes but still went to sit down without a complaint.

So much I hate about this club right now and that's before even thinking about the actual football being played.
His feeling were so clear on his face. :-( I really felt for him.
 

ralphs bald spot

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it was poor management taking him on. It was a good call to take him off, as we improved in another shape without him. Obviously the booing didnt help anyone.
honestly !! Dier another decent bloke has been playing all season and defends by numbers he thinks its enough being there Davinson has hardly had a kick this season and he wasn't no worse than most of the others - then to be publically humiliated does no one any favours it creates a bad feeling throughout - though I doubt it could be much worse
 
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