Next Manager Watch

[elfy]

Ha ha ha, another poster telling me there are positives and he could be a good manager, when I've already said this myself.

I keep saying the same thing over and over it's about the bigger picture. I told you all, this was 2021 all over again 4-5 weeks ago because of how things were behind the scenes.

Once the decision is made I'll be 100% behind the guy appointed make no mistake, and he may or may not be a success. Make no bones about it though this has been another complete shitshow brought to you by the same people who brought you the last shitshow. Be optimistic by all means, but if it works out it wasn't be design and it hasn't been in the long term plan. It'll be because we've stumbled our way here after numerous others, and weeks of indecision.

As I say in my original post don't dress this up a like it's a win because it isn't, if it turns out to be a win it's because we've got lucky.

Hopefully we won't be back here in 18 months time but if we are please, please, please remember why.

This is what it is isn't it. 6 months on from being certain we'd need a new manager, after already having 3 months of it looking likely and we don't have a clue who we want.

This talk to all candidates bollocks is just that, bollocks.

Why could we not have evaluated who is available and would come to us, and then moved heaven and earth to get them signed up. How can we be into June with no clear direction, plan or consensus?

It's shambolic. We do it with players too. How often do we hear of us looking at a player, and holding tentative negotiations with clubs and agents just to pull the plug. How often has that approach worked for us?

The worst part is whoever comes in, in peoples minds they will always be second (or third, fourth) choice.

Nuno (for his multitude of faults) suffered this. Everyone knew he wasn't who anyone really wanted, and that must filter through to the players. When things started going to shit nobody fought for him.

If the board had decided Postecoglou was the one, I think most people would have found a way to get behind it. Now, there is always going to be the Bully Bonus of "Look at what you could have won" with every manager we have interviewed or spoken to.

I would probably have been pretty annoyed to be honest if we had gone after Postecoglou day 1, but if I'm honest I would have moaned for a few days then sucked it up and got behind him. There would have been a plan. I could have disagreed with it, but at least there would, appear at least, to be logic and reason behind it.

Thats the thing with our approach both to managers and in the transfer market, we seem so indecisive it looks from the outside like we don't have a clue. Like we have no direction. No leadership. No method. No plan.

I get what you are saying, whoever comes in I will get behind because this is my club and it's clear it's not their fault but equally it's perfectly rational to be more than a little pissed off by the way we conduct ourselves and operate.

 

[fletch82]

I don't want him to fail
And that's exactly why I don't want us to appoint him in the first place.
I also don't think we will appoint him (which is why we will)
It feels like a experiment to me can this jolly old chap make a go of it ?
Well fuck that palace take a who knows risk Brentford too etc etc
We should not be the club sucking it too see what happens it feels like that one dollar bet from trading places
Far too many top quality and right fit managers available for us to be contemplating this appointment.

Before any one says it its nothing to do with where he is from where he has been he's race he's face or his belt size ffs I just don't think he will be up to the task it's not personal.

If he had been the front runner 6vweeks ago 90% of fans on here would have answered fuck that.
A few people shouting repeatedly no he's the messiah and now half the site is buying in to it lol like some weird mass hypnosis. ‍‍‍

 

[homer hotspur]

Games over. Has he turned us down yet ?

 

[Tucker]

Just been doing a bit of lip reading watching the Scottish final. Hart asked Postecoglou “How can you leave this?” He replied “I can’t.”

 

[mil1lion]

Another cup final win for Ange, do we really want another serial winner?

 

[homer hotspur]

Just been doing a bit of lip reading watching the Scottish final. Hart asked Postecoglou “How can you leave this?” He replied “I can’t.”

Can't is a dodgy word to lip read

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Just been doing a bit of lip reading watching the Scottish final. Hart asked Postecoglou “How can you leave this?” He replied “I can’t.”

No mate this is how it went

Hart “Tell that mug Levy to piss off when he calls on Monday” to which Ange replied “I can’t”

Trust me, my wife calls me deaf all the time I’m fluent in lip reading

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Games over. Has he turned us down yet ?

He’ll say it in the post match interview and laugh hysterically

 

[Nayim60yards]

Can't is a dodgy word to lip read

You can't



be serious

 

[King of the Lane]

If we do get Ange then my Manager hunt song is a goer (to the tune of the whole world in his hands) all together now:

We could have signed Nagelsmann
But we got Big Ange
It looked like Arne Slot
But we got Big Ange
Levy looked like he almost forgot
Until we got Big Ange
Weve got Ange Postecoglou

We were linked with Enrique
But we got Big Ange
Brendan Rodgers shark face
But we got Big Ange
A new bloody name every day
Until we got Big Ange
Weve got Ange Postecoglou

Anything to lighten the mood and the boredom this thread has become.

 

[Dougal]

If we do get Ange then my Manager hunt song is a goer (to the tune of the whole world in his hands) all together now:

We could have signed Nagelsmann
But we got Big Ange
It looked like Arne Slot
But we got Big Ange
Levy looked like he almost forgot
Until we got Big Ange
Weve got Ange Postecoglou

We were linked with Enrique
But we got Big Ange
Brendan Rogers shark face
But we got Big Ange
A new bloody name every day
Until we got Big Ange
Weve got Ange Postecoglou

Anything to lighten the mood and the boredom this thread has become.

Well, it beats my attempt.

‘Tie Kane down to another 5 years, sport!’

Apparently, you can’t sing that anymore…

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Ha ha ha, another poster telling me there are positives and he could be a good manager, when I've already said this myself.

I keep saying the same thing over and over it's about the bigger picture. I told you all, this was 2021 all over again 4-5 weeks ago because of how things were behind the scenes.

Once the decision is made I'll be 100% behind the guy appointed make no mistake, and he may or may not be a success. Make no bones about it though this has been another complete shitshow brought to you by the same people who brought you the last shitshow. Be optimistic by all means, but if it works out it wasn't be design and it hasn't been in the long term plan. It'll be because we've stumbled our way here after numerous others, and weeks of indecision.

As I say in my original post don't dress this up a like it's a win because it isn't, if it turns out to be a win it's because we've got lucky.

Hopefully we won't be back here in 18 months time but if we are please, please, please remember why.

I’d actually argue that it wouldn’t be luck and that it’s just taken quite a while to evaluate options and make the final appointment, by all accounts Slot was by far the n.o1 choice, we couldn’t get him so have identified Big Ange, L.Enrique and Amorim and are likely to go for Big Ange or L.Enrique, all who play fairly nice attacking football so by all accounts we’ve actually identified a consistent type of Manager so if whoever we land on does well then I wouldn’t in this case say that’s by ‘luck’.

I’ve criticised Levy for years on his handling on the football side and lack of plan but it’s important to be balanced and fair, some Managers he’s hired have been poor and bad choices but some like Redknapp and Poch worked out very well.

Before people say it that we could’ve ended up with Van Gaal, we didn’t, Levy had Poch on his final 2, went for him and it worked out really well.

Do I wish we had more of a plan and were more decisive? Yes.

Am I still concerned about how the football side of the club is being run? Yes.

Am I also balanced and objective enough to recognise that the club did an internal review and audit of both the player recruitment and football strategy and are perhaps realising they need to adapt and operate differently and by that have appointed Munn in a newly created role and structure and have been targeting 3-4 Managers who all play the style of play we want to see? Yes.

I think the issue is as much as we all very much appreciate info etc, when it’s constantly worded in such a dramatic and negative fashion without us being able to ask Q’s or know the full details then it can get a bit tiring because others have a habit of jumping on this and wallowing in and exacerbating the doom and gloom.

Like I said at the start of the process, Levy is a ‘blue’ analytical type personality, so things get overanalysed and dragged out but if at the end of this process we hire a manager who is a good fit and who aims to play the type of football we want to see and develop younger players and build a new project then like Jol, Redknapp and Poch, it is possibly to make this job a vague ‘success’ under Levy’s reign and for us to most importantly enjoying watching and supporting the team again.

 

[srups34]

Apparently after the game was over Jota was heard saying to Ange these fans adore you, how can you leave. Ange responded by saying I Can’t.

 

[jpascavitz]

Body language phase has commenced...

 

[Kevous79]

Walking around the pitch after the match waving the cup and slapping his chest....he doesn't look like a man who is leaving

 

[Guntz]

Ange is rightly taking in the trophy winning moment.

Might not happen again for a while

 

[Stoof]

You’re a bunch of abbreviated cannots.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

This is what it is isn't it. 6 months on from being certain we'd need a new manager, after already having 3 months of it looking likely and we don't have a clue who we want.

This talk to all candidates bollocks is just that, bollocks.

Why could we not have evaluated who is available and would come to us, and then moved heaven and earth to get them signed up. How can we be into June with no clear direction, plan or consensus?

It's shambolic. We do it with players too. How often do we hear of us looking at a player, and holding tentative negotiations with clubs and agents just to pull the plug. How often has that approach worked for us?

The worst part is whoever comes in, in peoples minds they will always be second (or third, fourth) choice.

Nuno (for his multitude of faults) suffered this. Everyone knew he wasn't who anyone really wanted, and that must filter through to the players. When things started going to shit nobody fought for him.

If the board had decided Postecoglou was the one, I think most people would have found a way to get behind it. Now, there is always going to be the Bully Bonus of "Look at what you could have won" with every manager we have interviewed or spoken to.

I would probably have been pretty annoyed to be honest if we had gone after Postecoglou day 1, but if I'm honest I would have moaned for a few days then sucked it up and got behind him. There would have been a plan. I could have disagreed with it, but at least there would, appear at least, to be logic and reason behind it.

Thats the thing with our approach both to managers and in the transfer market, we seem so indecisive it looks from the outside like we don't have a clue. Like we have no direction. No leadership. No method. No plan.

I get what you are saying, whoever comes in I will get behind because this is my club and it's clear it's not their fault but equally it's perfectly rational to be more than a little pissed off by the way we conduct ourselves and operate.

Agree with this and we would for sure benefit from being more decisive but in defence to Levy and the board…
•Possibly best available target: Naglesmann : became available out of the blue and very likely wanted time to digest what had happened and was always going to be a tough sell to get him to come to us or to align on asks, disappointing but understandable to an extent.

•N.O2 target Slot: we had to wait until their season had finished, we tried to get him and their DofF and in the end we couldn’t get it done when we thought we could.

•N.O3 targets (Big Ange, L.Enrique, Amorim) : by all accounts we interviewed L.Enrique and Amorim but neither were screaming out as preferred choices, we like the look of and slightly favour Big Ange but again have to wait until his cup final is over.

NOW we should look next week to make the final decision, give Big Ange a few days to enjoy his treble then start conversations and get the deal done, if not then pull the trigger on L.Enrique.

This above is based on both ITK and credible statements and reports in the media, so whilst I completely wish we had been more decisive and hired someone already, we didn’t want Poch back which was understandable and our top 3 targets all involved waiting, we should now know the full lay of the land and pull the trigger by end of next week. If it starts to drag on much beyond that then we would have another Nuno situ upcoming but I’d like to hope the club are just being careful to try and get the right man this time whereas we ended up with Nuno last time because a new DofF came in and pulled the plug on Fonseca who ironically is exactly the type of profile of Manager we’ve been looking at this time…

 

[septicsac]

Apparently after the game was over Jota was heard saying to Ange these fans adore you, how can you leave. Ange responded by saying I Can’t.

Irony here is Jota could be the one to leave

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Walking around the pitch after the match waving the cup and slapping his chest....he doesn't look like a man who is leaving

Or he’s just living in the moment as he’s just won a cup to win a treble …