Next Manager Watch

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Taking 69 days to appoint a manager, whilst still showing little to no evidence of a clear plan is fairly good "information".

Let's take stock of this, the fact that our no1 player and club talisman is entering his final year of his contract with us, no DOF to plan for the summer's acquisitions, a chairman who insists on meddling in everything that happens on and off the pitch to the detriment of the club, these are just a few tidbits of "information" we need to know that the outlook is pretty bleak at the minute.

The information is there if you choose to see it.

Every tidbit of information is agenda driven. And with the greatest respect that is everything we hear from ITK, journalists etc... unless any of us are sat in internal meetings none of us know anything.

There could be a plan that we're working our way through. We still have a recruitment team, we're still clearly speaking to targets. All this 'meddling' we hear that Levy does is either here nor there. No one really knows if he meddles that much. He's just an easy pantomime villain when we're going through a negative patch and then gets called 'lucky' when we go through a positive period.

Yes we haven't got a manager but ffs the season only last last weekend. Surely it's more important we get the right fit than just the easiest and quickest person to appoint. It seems to me that because we are apparently appointing a manager that a lot on here don't want that is proving that there has been no plan. Again, that is just pure conjecture. People filling in the gaps in the most negative way possible. We've heard that we have 4 options - Slot, Amorim, Enrique, Ange. Surely if we appoint one of them it shows some sort of plan? These names have been pretty consistent for weeks.

Anyway i'm not going to change anyones mind. If you want to continue to wallow in hopelessness and misery that's your prerogative. Summer is here now. I plan to disengage from it all for a while and enjoy my life.

 

[neogenisis]

I think it's more a majority of apprehension in terms of AP than negativity.

(Saying this, I'm personally happy to have anyone at the helm as long as they're backed by the board to their fullest capability)

Totaly get that, but in reality its either he's good enough but wont get backed or hes not good enough full stop, and while that may well be where we are at as a club teeth nashing and hand wringing wont change anything.

 

[Hoopspur]

didnt come from the SPL which was my entire point

Hate to be picky but he went to Celtic and had some success. Then returned to Liverpool as caretaker and then was appointed full time. Had some success afterwards there also then. But I’ll desist as I don’t think we will appoint him, or I’ve not heard any whispers.

 

[Albertbarich]

Personally I was all aboard the Nagelsmann train but yeah after watching some videos , reading stuff and listening to podcasts ai think Ange is a great appointment.

Levy is going to be here either way. He isn't going to change and nobody coming will get properly backed so I'm just looking for the positives

 

[Hoopspur]

Following the match Ange will give Levy a scheduled call. Only to hear the message “this number is no longer available”

 

[Trix]

In all fairness you did say he was being a little precious about it, is that not childish or patronising?

Believe me the irony wasn't lost on me.

 

[newbie]

I find it quite amusing how so many have talked themselves into this being a win.

Tbh we are all broken and desperate!

Right now It’s a low bar!

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Every tidbit of information is agenda driven. And with the greatest respect that is everything we hear from ITK, journalists etc... unless any of us are sat in internal meetings none of us know anything.

There could be a plan that we're working our way through. We still have a recruitment team, we're still clearly speaking to targets. All this 'meddling' we hear that Levy does is either here nor there. No one really knows if he meddles that much. He's just an easy pantomime villain when we're going through a negative patch and then gets called 'lucky' when we go through a positive period.

Yes we haven't got a manager but ffs the season only last last weekend. Surely it's more important we get the right fit than just the easiest and quickest person to appoint. It seems to me that because we are apparently appointing a manager that a lot on here don't want that is proving that there has been no plan. Again, that is just pure conjecture. People filling in the gaps in the most negative way possible. We've heard that we have 4 options - Slot, Amorim, Enrique, Ange. Surely if we appoint one of them it shows some sort of plan? These names have been pretty consistent for weeks.

Anyway i'm not going to change anyones mind. If you want to continue to wallow in hopelessness and misery that's your prerogative. Summer is here now. I plan to disengage from it all for a while and enjoy my life.

Fair enough, we don't really know where or how information is conveyed to us as fans nor do we know if there is an agenda behind it or not.

But I do believe that ITK on here such as Trix, Hercules, H88 and WLB share what they can with as little bias as possible to convey what's going on behind the scenes without compromising there positions to obtain said information.

The fact of the matter is, the club needs to show the fans some reason to have faith. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes but we don't need to, to be given reasons to believe in the board again. We've given them as much as they've earned and 10 times more just to end up where we are today. Eventually that bill to the fans needs to be paid. That good faith needs to be rewarded. In my eyes they've shown us more to be worried about than signs to be excited for the future.

This doesn't mean I or anyone else who thinks this way won't get behind the manager, whoever it may be. It's ludicrous to assume so simply because we're not shitting rainbows at the thought of AP taking charge.

And just to get it out there, I think anyone on here has the right to share their thoughts or opinions regardless if it's negative or positive. That's exactly what a forum is for. A place for fans to share thoughts with one another. Everything seems to turn into a you vs me (figuratively speaking) scenario when it should just be a place to share how you feel/think. Unless one says something stupid or outrageous and deserve to be pulled up on it, but in general it should be an open forum for everyone to have their say.

Also it's winter down here, let me wallow in peace.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Hate to be picky but he went to Celtic and had some success. Then returned to Liverpool as caretaker and then was appointed full time. Had some success afterwards there also then. But I’ll desist as I don’t think we will appoint him, or I’ve not heard any whispers.

He had managed liverpool and blackburn to a title and newcastle before he went to Celtic as the director of football initially. When he got the liverpool job the second time he won the leauge cup and finished 8th. Again, he wasnt from the SPL but when he came back he was worse

 

[FinnYid]

Don't know if Ange is the right one, but at least he doesn't reek instantly of wrong one like all of the appointments after Poch and quite a few before that.

 

[McFlash]

In all fairness you did say he was being a little precious about it, is that not childish or patronising?

Not really because I think he is/was being a little precious.
ITK's want to be able to post like normal fans, then they should be able to take criticism of their views like the rest of us, without getting all uppity about it.

 

[lami]

Brendan Rogers appointed by the end of the week. Our PR team come out and say Rogers was always our first choice, we just didn't want to make an appointment until the season had concluded (FA cup)

That would be how I see this shit show ending up!

Rogers will then do half decent for a couple of seasons, taking the pressure of Levy.

Then groundhog day will occur and we'll be back where we are now.

In the mean time, Slot has taken over at Citeh after winning the Champ League with Feyernoord.
Naglesmann has turned Crystal Palace into title challengers and Ange wins a further 2 trebles in a row with Celtic, one being a European cup.

Every player who has left us have gone on to win a trophy of some sort.

Our back 4 is Royal, Dier, Sanchez and Davies. Romero is in jail for assault.

Its the spurs way

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Not really because I think he is/was being a little precious.
ITK's want to be able to post like normal fans, then they should be able to take criticism of their views like the rest of us, without getting all uppity about it.

If the criticism is fair and relevant to their views then of course, but what Trix said was taken out of context and had additional views levelled at it that weren't his.

And let's be fair, you could've worded your response differently and it would've come across in a better light.

Not that I'm one to talk, I don't follow this advice myself and often shoot from the hip.

 

[septicsac]

Ha ha ha, another poster telling me there are positives and he could be a good manager, when I've already said this myself.

I keep saying the same thing over and over it's about the bigger picture. I told you all, this was 2021 all over again 4-5 weeks ago because of how things were behind the scenes.

Once the decision is made I'll be 100% behind the guy appointed make no mistake, and he may or may not be a success. Make no bones about it though this has been another complete shitshow brought to you by the same people who brought you the last shitshow. Be optimistic by all means, but if it works out it wasn't be design and it hasn't been in the long term plan. It'll be because we've stumbled our way here after numerous others, and weeks of indecision.

As I say in my original post don't dress this up a like it's a win because it isn't, if it turns out to be a win it's because we've got lucky.

Hopefully we won't be back here in 18 months time but if we are please, please, please remember why.

This, this , this all day long. I got behind both JM and AC thinking you don't get guys like these unless you are willing to back then. I will do the same no matter who we employ next, unless it's Judas Campbell, and if they are a success it will be by fluke or their ingenuity, similar to Poch.
People need to remember that we are where we are due to one person and if we are back here in 12-18 months then no doubt it will be down to one person again.
With LE looking like he is now in at PSG it will be interesting to hear if we have any second option to Ange or are all our eggs now in that basket?

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Brendan Rogers appointed by the end of the week. Our PR team come out and say Rogers was always our first choice, we just didn't want to make an appointment until the season had concluded (FA cup)

That would be how I see this shit show ending up!

Rogers will then do half decent for a couple of seasons, taking the pressure of Levy.

Then groundhog day will occur and we'll be back where we are now.

In the mean time, Slot has taken over at Citeh after winning the Champ League with Feyernoord.
Naglesmann has turned Crystal Palace into title challengers and Ange wins a further 2 trebles in a row with Celtic, one being a European cup.

Every player who has left us have gone on to win a trophy of some sort.

Our back 4 is Royal, Dier, Sanchez and Davies. Romero is in jail for assault.

Its the spurs way

You seem to have misspelt murder.

 

[King of the Lane]

I know there is a bit of back and forth atm but I've got to say I find the 'being positive just for positive sake' posts just as annoying and tiresome as the overly negative ones (and they are bloody annoying too!).

At this stage, I feel like there is no point trying to convince yourselves or others of anything, as like we saw with Slot, it can all change in a second. Lets just hope this gets sorted within the next week as this thread is almost as tiresome as our actual Manager hunt is.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

All I know is if we do appoint Ange I will be using his surname to pick up birds at the pub whilst pretending to be a foreigner.

"We can head back to my place and I'll show you my massive Postecoglou"

That has winner written all over it.

 

[septicsac]

Brendan Rogers appointed by the end of the week. Our PR team come out and say Rogers was always our first choice, we just didn't want to make an appointment until the season had concluded (FA cup)

That would be how I see this shit show ending up!

Rogers will then do half decent for a couple of seasons, taking the pressure of Levy.

Then groundhog day will occur and we'll be back where we are now.

In the mean time, Slot has taken over at Citeh after winning the Champ League with Feyernoord.
Naglesmann has turned Crystal Palace into title challengers and Ange wins a further 2 trebles in a row with Celtic, one being a European cup.

Every player who has left us have gone on to win a trophy of some sort.

Our back 4 is Royal, Dier, Sanchez and Davies. Romero is in jail for assault.

Its the spurs way

Brilliant and scary at the same time

 

[McFlash]

If the criticism is fair and relevant to their views then of course, but what Trix said was taken out of context and had additional views levelled at it that weren't his.

And let's be fair, you could've worded your response differently and it would've come across in a better light.

Not that I'm one to talk, I don't follow this advice myself and often shoot from the hip.

Yeah I could've said it differently but then that would be a bit hypocritical in my view.
I saw the whole "well, you could have quoted them and then I would've known it wasn't about me" to a respected mod as rather petulant and precious.
I'd call that out with any other poster so I don't see why I shouldn't do it to Trix.

I've always respected his views and normally agree with his opinion but in this instance, I think he was being unfair.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Appreciate all the info you pass on, but there is nothing wrong with having a bit of hope is there? Otherwise what is the point? You just live in misery, doom and gloom. Which it seems like many here do.

Ange could be a miserable failure, or he could surprise people. There is no reason to be open minded and have hope for the latter.