Match Threads Leicester vs Spurs - Match Thread

[Archibald&Crooks]

I read bollocks once and try to forget it.

Try so hard to forget it that here you are, pontificating about it in several posts. Well played

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Garcia at Watford

5-4-9 in the 18 latest league matchens. Poch out.

Gracia at Watford was sacked on the basis of their poor form at the end of last season and the beginning of this. They also reached a cup final

 

[king26]

I genuinely feel that we played well, the starting 11 before the subs were great, we were robbed by that farce of a var decision and then we decided to bring wanyama and eriksen on and it ruined us.

thats all true i would have put skippy on instead of eriksen

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

I am so quick to chuck every insult in the book at our players when we lose however what the fuck am I reading in this thread?

We played well and were undone by a bullshit VAR decision. The game is over at 2-0.

The only player I’d point the finger at is Wanyama, otherwise I was happy with how we played. The notion that Leicester deserved to win is quite simply bollocks.

 

[Tonio]

Try so hard to forget it that here you are, pontificating about it in several posts. Well played

Ok.

 

[Nicki78]

Poch happy with the performance but not the result no change there

It must look much better from the bench

You didn’t think the performance was decent? For me if we go 2-0 up we go on to win. The VAR decision changed the game. Maybe I’m glass half full but I can’t really slag off the players today (other than 1-2).

 

[rossdapep]

Excuses.

Yes, there hasn't been enough investment on the playing side for too long but no one can say that we are worse than last season in terms of playing resources.

We are mentally weak. One bad decision goes against us and we crumble. Lack of any backbone and a poor tactical performance from the manager.

Ndombele was bought to be our midfield master - but when the going got tough today, he was no where to be seen. Maybe he's not fit enough yet, but even then, the effort just looks really poor.

Obviously, Poch has messed with a couple of our other on-field leaders, particularly Toby and Verts, and they don't seem to be the same as they were previously.

The manager appears lost to me and has reverted to unnecessary meddling. Sanchez as a right back? Dropping Vertonghen? Eriksen dropped, then back again, then dropped again. Same with Alli, Moura. And others.

Everyone and everything just looks off. Not sure where we go from here but Poch has to fix it or be gone.

The progression of Poch does seem to have hit a wall.

He started off working on the press and getting players up to speed with his aggressive approach.

Then he worked on mentality and making us never give in.

Then he abandoned some of the press to manage games better and I was in favour of it.

From the tail end of the 17/18 season we started to throw caution to the wind and the end of both Dembele and Wanyama meant he set us out to be a bit more open.

The problem is previously if we weren't at our best we'd squeeze a 1-0 win, draw or very rarely lose 1-0. Now we get these open affairs in which it can go either way.

Even at home where we completely dominate the ball we face too many shots.

I do think there is some validity in the thoughts he may be a little lost, thinking he's knowing what he's doing but isn't or confusing the players with too many commands.

 

[spursfan77]

Next week when we smash Southampton at home all the Poch out people will be right back on his side

I’m taking a Southampton fan to that game. Absolutely dreading it now

 

[Spurs 1961]

A have a friend who was responsible for developing some of the early systems used for ball line technology in tennis etc. From what he has told me in the past the margin of error is too great in any system for The level of judgment used in disallowing the Aurier goal.

Still having said all that we should have made far more of good possession. The level of play, passing, pressing, creativity etc., was there during the game but you have to finish things off

 

[daniel chagas]

I genuinely feel that we played well, the starting 11 before the subs were great, we were robbed by that farce of a var decision and then we decided to bring wanyama and eriksen on and it ruined us.

Spot on.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

I think on the whole, VAR could serve a purpose. But its about being honest about what we are genuinely able to make a 100% correct decision on. EG, what about camera frames? However many frames per second- who knows whether the specific frame they chose to determine was actually the correct one? Too many questions on decisions like these, and its a much worse feeling for fans than getting robbed by the ref...

Was quite happy hating the ref, but this actually makes me hate the sport.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

I am so quick to chuck every insult in the book at our players when we lose however what the fuck am I reading in this thread?

We played well and were undone by a bullshit VAR decision. The game is over at 2-0.

The only player I’d point the finger at is Wanyama, otherwise I was happy with how we played. The notion that Leicester deserved to win is quite simply bollocks.

We were unfortunate with the decisions but we still gave up a crazy number of chances and they had 16 shots. We can’t defend and Poch thought Wanyama and Eriksen were the answers

 

[TURKISH69]

Our form is crap and there are issues, nobody is suggesting otherwise, but seeing as we're all entitled to an opinion, mine is that this mentality business is utter horseshit and childish, knee-jerk nonsense, there are plenty of other reasons that are probably more valid than 'bottle' as to what's happening, there's no need to go there but sadly, one or two people always want to. Its fucking lazy IMO.

Yeah agree but that is all down to the manager my opinion hes lost the changing room, they look like players who wouldnt put their life on the line for him like they did 18months ago. Defensively 3 seasons ago unbeaton at the lane unbelievable now we just roll over. That tells me there is something fundamentaly not right behind the scenes. Im affraid we need a change a someone in who will make tough decisions even if it means upsetting yous so called best players. We need round pegs in round holes instead of square ones, and whats cost him is his rotation of players, if he kept a settled side for 5/6 games who have been winning games then you get a positive vibe in the camp. Leaving Aurier out in the champions league in the week was a fucking disgrace especially as he just had one of his best games for us. I could go on but the wanyama sub today just tells me Poch your time is done and he hasnt got a fucking clue.

 

[THFC_SWE]

Unbelievable, the only weak mentality around our club is in this thread.

Every time we lose, it's bottle, its mentality and its a thousand other reasons on top, in fact today, according to a bloody lot of you in this thread, VAR cost us and the referee cost us, how strange that after the game finishes it's suddenly not that, its our weak mentality or bottle. What a fucking fairytale.

The majority of those players have shown mentality plenty of times but no, fuck that, we lost so its 'bottle', when we show some nads its not possibly that we actually do have bottle, its written off as 'lucky'

Oh please, wake up already. You spend too much time in your fairytale dreamland. Sure, it was it impossible to see if Son was offside or not. And only because someone thinks that it was a terrible decision from VAR, it doesn't mean they can't think we have a weak mentality. Do you think we showed discipline or character after that decision? I don't think we did. There's something wrong with this team. A lucky ride in the CL doesn't change that. Our form during 2019 shows the ugly truth. We have relegation form.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Why does the red line start from the bottom right corner of the vertical squares down but the blue does not.

Totally agree this robbed us but we should have done more. We had so much space in this game!

 

[ardiles]

I’m not going to blame VAR for the loss.

If we are serious in challenging for top four (or more), then we have to play better and not depend on VAR.

We could have wrapped up the game, before and after the VAR decision, if we had been more clinical.

 

[Gareth88]

I’m taking a Southampton fan to that game. Absolutely dreading it now

Don't worry they are shite we win that game by two or three goals

 

[King of Otters]

How long have you been watching these chokes by Spurs?

I’ll assume the answer to my question is ‘not very long’.

 

[Tonio]

I am so quick to chuck every insult in the book at our players when we lose however what the fuck am I reading in this thread?

We played well and were undone by a bullshit VAR decision. The game is over at 2-0.

The only player I’d point the finger at is Wanyama, otherwise I was happy with how we played. The notion that Leicester deserved to win is quite simply bollocks.

Undone by VAR? Bollocks. We should have pushed on regardless. And the game is never over at 2-0.

 

[JAYSTAR]

Poch is at fault again. Poor and naive tactics and decisions:

Poch continues to have our players way up the pitch, no defending as a team and leaving it all up to Toby and Verts to save the day when the oppo steal the ball and counter. A totally foolish strategy.
Liverpool and City have Fabinho and Rodri sitting deep and one of the other two staying central. We had Ndombele running up the left wing! And Winks was all over the place when he should have stayed central. All this while our full backs are right up the pitch.

Subs: Why take Sissoko off at all? Why bring on Lucas with 5 minutes left? What was the strategy there? Eriksen came on and added nothing.

Surely Poch can drill players on not playing cavalier blind passes. Rose giving the ball away three times in the last 5 minutes was ridiculous. Some pathetic stuff on show today by a few players, but Poch's lack of tactics means we need someone who is more calculated imo.