Jose Mourinho

[dtxspurs]

Yes, team selection. That’s not the entire scope of the job now is it? I’m curious to know what you actually think IS the players fault? Because it seems like they shit golden eggs to you and everything that’s wrong is the managers fault.

I don't think a good amount of them are amazing by any means. But by no means is this group of players the 9th best in the league. We haven't beaten a half decent side in 2 and a half months. As a matter of fact we haven't beaten a team in the top half of the table in over 3 months at this point. He continues to pick Dier/Sanchez over Toby, continues to pick Lucas/Lamela over Bale. Refuses to play a backup striker he loved apparently. The players make individual errors but he sets us up to fail, no doubt about it.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Honestly, the issue here is our defenders are absolute hot garbage. Not sure a manager exists that could make these guys serviceable. But, along with that the problem is there appears to be no effort to hide them as much as possible through a more possession-based approach. It's all just disjointed and doesn't really feel like there's much of a plan until we are absolutely forced into one (go down 1/2 goals or go up 1/2 goals). Off the ball players are static, get pulled out of position and leave HUGEEEE gaps for opponents to exploit. Far too many times our defenders are put on islands where it is the hardest possible scenario to defend, and with them being generally bad at defending, that is no bueno.

And, as others have said, if Ledley is really responsible for coaching the defenders, then he should be looked at if Mourinho is not going anywhere. I really feel like they have collectively taken a step back this season.

That being said, if I had to pick a side I'd say I want Mourinho gone but I'd rather just wait until the end of the season. Take the summer to get a long-term option hired and go from there. Doing something now doesn't really mean much. We aren't in danger of getting relegated, we've got a couple of cup competitions to fight for, and unless we win the Europa and the Carabao Cup, Mourinho isn't staying around. If we manage to actually win those (Nope, not happening), you'd have to think that would signal a general change in form which may make another season of Mourinho likely.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

People are glossing over too much today.

We conceded within the first 5 minutes of the first half, and the first 2 minutes of the second half.

If that's a side that is playing for the Manager then I'm sorry but it's delusional.

 

[glacierSpurs]

I mean... what? Dier/Sanchez give away a goal every single game. Bale showing he has deserved more time but none of that is Mourinhos fault for that team selection. What?!

Because the trust is from Mourinho on them that they shouldn't make such stupid mistakes but they didn't repay the faith. Why the players are not blamed more proportionately?

Lamela in the first half played well, and could have gotten/provided us a goal or two? Why no credit to Mourinho that he could have picked a better player to start when now we have no idea at all if Bale would be just as good to start the game and yet that can be an argument to beat Mourinho with?

Mourinho would be at a larger fault if Lamela today gave away goals and got sent off. But none of that happened and he controlled the game well, even to a point we could see how much we missed him when he was gone for Bale.

 

[Fittster]

Buck stops with the Manager.

Buck stops with the man who appoints the manager.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It would be cruelly ironic for the debate about Jose to centre around results v style only for him to achieve the worst points per game ratio of almost any of our managers in many years.

 

[wirE]

Rodon and Tanganga pairing is not the answer at the moment..

 

[spursfan77]

I do wonder had we coughed up the extra cash to pay for skrinrar we’d be better off today. Not paying it will cost us now though.

 

[chrissivad]

Who do you mean, because it's not Ledley?

I thought King was our defensive coach.

 

[yawa]

I do wonder had we coughed up the extra cash to pay for skrinrar we’d be better off today. Not paying it will cost us now though.

of course we would. We need 2 x centre backs and a GK. we had 20 shots to 4 today and they managed 2.

our defence is barely top 8 quality. Let alone top 4.

 

[L-man]

 

[Beni]

Thought people didn’t mind about the results aslong as we’re playing the Tottenham way and attacking?
Ah, I see it’s back to results now...

 

[Thewobbler]

Tanganga at cb?

Why not. Might as well give him a run of games, can't be any worse.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Honestly, the issue here is our defenders are absolute hot garbage. Not sure a manager exists that could make these guys serviceable. But, along with that the problem is there appears to be no effort to hide them as much as possible through a more possession-based approach. It's all just disjointed and doesn't really feel like there's much of a plan until we are absolutely forced into one (go down 1/2 goals or go up 1/2 goals). Off the ball players are static, get pulled out of position and leave HUGEEEE gaps for opponents to exploit. Far too many times our defenders are put on islands where it is the hardest possible scenario to defend, and with them being generally bad at defending, that is no bueno.

And, as others have said, if Ledley is really responsible for coaching the defenders, then he should be looked at if Mourinho is not going anywhere. I really feel like they have collectively taken a step back this season.

That being said, if I had to pick a side I'd say I want Mourinho gone but I'd rather just wait until the end of the season. Take the summer to get a long-term option hired and go from there. Doing something now doesn't really mean much. We aren't in danger of getting relegated, we've got a couple of cup competitions to fight for, and unless we win the Europa and the Carabao Cup, Mourinho isn't staying around. If we manage to actually win those (Nope, not happening), you'd have to think that would signal a general change in form which may make another season of Mourinho likely.

Jose has completely knocked the confidence out of every CB at the club.

We're better than this.

 

[dtxspurs]

Because the trust is from Mourinho on them that they shouldn't make such stupid mistakes but they didn't repay the faith. Why the players are not blamed more proportionately?

Lamela in the first half played well, and could have gotten/provided us a goal or two? Why no credit to Mourinho that he could have picked a better player to start when now we have no idea at all if Bale would be just as good to start the game and yet that can be an argument to beat Mourinho with?

Mourinho would be at a larger fault if Lamela today gave away goals and got sent off. But none of that happened and he controlled the game well, even to a point we could see how much we missed him when he was gone for Bale.

Hes a fucking moron if hes watched Dier & Sanchez for a year and a half now and didn't expect them to make stupid mistakes. Toby is no doubt our best CB, its not even discussable, why isn't he playing?! When has Lamela ever gotten us 2 goals in a game?

Are you talking about the same Bale who was no doubt MOTM? We missed him over Bale? What game are you watching? Bale is a better player than Lamela & Lucas yesterday, today, all season and their entire lives.

 

[dontcallme]

I thought King was our defensive coach.

According to the club website:

Ledley King was appointed First Team Assistant in August, 2020.

He works alongside our coaches, analysts and playing squad both at the Training Centre and on matchdays.

He has also taken on the role of supporting our academy players as they look to step up to the first team.

Our legendary former captain needs little introduction, having given us 13 years of sterling service as a first team player, making 323 appearances in total and lifting the League Cup at Wembley as captain in 2008.

An iconic central defender, he retired in 2012 and has since continued his association with us through his work as a Club Ambassador.

 

[spursfan77]

Jesus. Here we go.

Mourinho to BBC: "I feel that we are not in the position in relation to our potential - even if I think for a long, long time that we have problems in the team that I cannot resolve by myself as a coach. Our potential is higher than where we are so there is frustration." #THFC

 

[snakehipsspurs]

The only thing I can fully level at Jose today is the poor CB choice, which he is just getting wrong week in week out atm.

Everything else in that game is exactly as we expect just now. Create good chances, not clinical enough and concede moronic, braindead goals.

If Allegri is our first choice, then I would understand letting Jose go now. But outside of that, there’s no point firing him atm because no one will come in.

As long as he’s still here, would love to see us just trust the youth and play Rodon and Tanganga as the CB pairing once Aurier is fit. It can’t be any worse than Dier, Sanchez and what’s left of Toby.

 

[stonebrow]

It would be cruelly ironic for the debate about Jose to centre around results v style only for him to achieve the worst points per game ratio of almost any of our managers in many years.

Typical that Spurs may be the only club that one of the most successful managers of all time fails to win a trophy with.

 

[Jamturk]

I don't agree none are up to it.
But don't play Sanchez against teams that like to cross the ball in.
Don't play Toby against quick attackers.
Try not to play Dier for now...

Chopping and changing every other/few games will not be helping at all.

You talk about not playing such and such against different attacking scenarios and then you say chopping and changing isn't helping ? ? ?