Jose Mourinho

[Dazzazzad]

Mourinho’s away record against the Big Six since January 2015 now reads: P19 W2 D6 L11 F16 A34.

Maybe we got Mourinho's brother.

 

[dbspurs]

He needs at least 5 new signings in the summer (RB, LB, CB, DM, backup CF) as well as getting rid of the dross already in those positions.

I'd be utterly shocked if both Levy and Jose didn't know this would be the case when he was appointed.

With that in mind I'm not panicking yet as top 4 or a trophy were a distant memory back in October.

The manager needs to be backed and I'll reserve my judgment until he has his players in place.

For me Levy needs to step up and give the manager what he needs to be successful. If he doesn't then I think our misgivings need to be directed in his direction rather than Jose's.

 

[Haddock]

Yeah, I share the sentiment here. I feel like most of us, who have football in general as an interest, have no problems at all with a defensive setup when done right. Atletico is the obvious example but there are countless others where you can clearly see that the whole team works as a defensive unit. How they press, how their zone marking and defensive awareness is drilled in to every single player, how they have a clear and cohesive way of taking on the opponent. I mean, that can be a work of art when done right.

The problems with us and I won't elaborate too much further on it because others in this thread have already very eloquently done so, but in short: We're passive and we're basically inviting pressure. Chelsea yesterday and Leipzig last tuesday had as much time on the ball as they wanted. It's also the reason why we're seemingly outplayed by the likes of Aston Villa. You just can't play like that for 90 minutes and expect to have a clean sheet.

I guess the best case scenario is that Mourinho is aware of this but that he and the coaches don't have the time to implement a defensive system and / or they don't feel they have the right players to do so. The worst case scenario is that Mourinho is "yesterday's man" and that he has no clue on how to resolve our issues.

 

[Wsussexspur]

The early signs under Jose arent promising the football we are playing is prehistoric to say the least. Yes we are missing our two best attacking players. However as they showed on motd last night this does not excuse the tactics we are employing at the moment. As they said the players look scared to actually try and play football and move the ball forwards. It seems they are playing to a plan of safety first. This is really concerning as it’s pretty obvious they have been told to play this way by Jose

however as people have said let’s fully judge him next season before delivering any verdict on his tenure with us.

 

[Gb160]

Jose out after three months? Christ, I thought Liverpool fans were self-entitled!

People honestly think that after 3 months that they've given Jose a fair chance?
Our fanbase can be so embarrassing at times...Woolwich levels.

I take comfort in the fact that Levy thinks longer term than these fans, won't shit the bed and will give him time.
If some of these fans ran the club we would honestly have a new manager every month.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

He's shit. He's s shit man and nowadays he's a shit manager. His tactics are out-dated, this passive nonsense doesn't work against even decent teams anymore. And he can't coach the players it seems - there's no defensive organisation and no cohesion going forward.

His main tactic seems to be hope the opposition miss the chances they get and hope one of our talented attackers gets something. So basically, to get lucky and we've been generally lucky. But it's not a sustainable model.

And the constant excuse making and claims of having no other options is pathetic. It's a losers mentality. And that's what he is nowadays - a loser.

If you make a mistake, the best response is to admit it and rectify it as soon as possible. That's what Levy needs to do. Appointing Mourinho was a mistake, now he needs to swallow his pride and fix it.

I just don't get why our defencive line is positioned in no man's land. They sit too far ahead from the keeper yet to far behind the midfield. Especially when we attack. It allows opposition players to get in behind very easily. I also hate this 4 at the back when defending and 3 when attacking. It essentially gives anyone a giant red X of were to attack on the counter. It doesn't help that Aurier isn't the most focused, but even if he was its so easy to take advantage of. Not buying a DM straight away still absolutely baffles me as it's so obvious Winks is not a DM and has been struggling a lot in that roll. I just don't understand why we are set up so flat. Im fed up of seeing our midfielders waving their hands in the air with frustration because they have nobody to pass too. We have so little movement when we are on the ball.

I just don't understand why injuries to our forwards stops us from becoming tactically tight further back. As I said previously, I understand Jose deserves next season, but I don't understand why some degree of tactical stability isn't capable after the time he has had. And this negative approach he seems to be employing is very, very concerning for me.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yeah, I share the sentiment here. I feel like most of us, who have football in general as an interest, have no problems at all with a defensive setup when done right. Atletico is the obvious example but there are countless others where you can clearly see that the whole team works as a defensive unit. How they press, how their zone marking and defensive awareness is drilled in to every single player, how they have a clear and cohesive way of taking on the opponent. I mean, that can be a work of art when done right.

The problems with us and I won't elaborate too much further on it because others in this thread have already very eloquently done so, but in short: We're passive and we're basically inviting pressure. Chelsea yesterday and Leipzig last tuesday had as much time on the ball as they wanted. It's also the reason why we're seemingly outplayed by the likes of Aston Villa. You just can't play like that for 90 minutes and expect to have a clean sheet.

I guess the best case scenario is that Mourinho is aware of this but that he and the coaches don't have the time to implement a defensive system and / or they don't feel they have the right players to do so. The worst case scenario is that Mourinho is "yesterday's man" and that he has no clue on how to resolve our issues.

Sadly I think your right we start games way too slowly and we are out fought and pressed, the team is as you say is too passive we have no one out on the pitch who can and will lead from the front.
I really am not looking forward to the rest of the season can't wait for it to be over now it's been a total embarrassing episode.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I know that folk who post here are a small sample size of the fans who follow Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, but the shear contempt shown for a manager that has won in every conceivable way in multiple countries over near enough two decades and there is us, multiple managers, multiple ways of playing football in the same two decades. One fucking pot vs how many for him? And there are calls on here to 'get rid' because people can't figure out what we're meant to be doing without our two most key players (goals) after just three months?

Delusional.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

People honestly think that after 3 months that they've given Jose a fair chance?
Our fanbase can be so embarrassing at times...Woolwich levels.

I take comfort in the fact that Levy thinks longer term than these fans, won't shit the bed and will give him time.
If some of these fans ran the club we would honestly have a new manager every month.

What about those of us who never wanted to give him a chance at all? We're clear, right?

#NoHypocrite

 

[Metalhead]

He's shit. He's s shit man and nowadays he's a shit manager. His tactics are out-dated, this passive nonsense doesn't work against even decent teams anymore. And he can't coach the players it seems - there's no defensive organisation and no cohesion going forward.

His main tactic seems to be hope the opposition miss the chances they get and hope one of our talented attackers gets something. So basically, to get lucky and we've been generally lucky. But it's not a sustainable model.

And the constant excuse making and claims of having no other options is pathetic. It's a losers mentality. And that's what he is nowadays - a loser.

If you make a mistake, the best response is to admit it and rectify it as soon as possible. That's what Levy needs to do. Appointing Mourinho was a mistake, now he needs to swallow his pride and fix it.

Good luck waiting for that to happen. He'll get pre-season plus two or three months at least.

 

[Metalhead]

What about those of us who never wanted to give him a chance at all? We're clear, right?

#NoHypocrite

What about those of us who weren't keen at all but believe in giving a manager a fair crack of the whip?
#bitofpatience

 

[fedupyid]

People honestly think that after 3 months that they've given Jose a fair chance?
Our fanbase can be so embarrassing at times...Woolwich levels.

I take comfort in the fact that Levy thinks longer term than these fans, won't shit the bed and will give him time.
If some of these fans ran the club we would honestly have a new manager every month.

Levy thinks longer than the fans. LOL. Levy is the reason we are in this situation. Levy sacked the man who took us to the Champions League Final. Consistently qualified us for the Champions League. This without backing him. This to bring in the ultimate mercenary who has no loyalties. I do not understand Spurs fans backing of Levy and further their backing of Mourinho. The football is terrible and we have been outplayed by numerous teams with Kane and Son. Get the poison out of the club Levy out and Jose our.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

This is spot on imo.

Wont be long until Kane has had enough of parking the bus and playing so negative. I’m sure of that. And he’s probably gone himself after that.

 

[monkeynick]

I hated the appointment and I hate him, it’s actually soured how I feel about my team too which I didn’t think could happen given some of the stuff I’ve seen over 40 years.

I haven’t been back since the previous Chelsea debacle, it’s good fortune that people hoover up tickets although that’s not going to last long with the dross they are being subjected to.

Anyone who saw the toxic mess he left behind him at Manchester Utd and then pays him 15m a year is beyond stupid.

He can’t motivate players anymore, he’s no longer charming just bitter and without Rui Faria appears tactically clueless and players know as much.

It will definitely end badly and he will blame the club with some cheap shots on the way out the door to win favour with Chelsea fans.
Unfortunately because he knows he is finished and won’t get so spectacularly overpaid ever again it isn’t going to be soon enough.
A potential positive is that the cluster this will become may end up being the end of Levy.

Did I mention I hate him?

Chelsea. Slag. Out.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

What about those of us who weren't keen at all but believe in giving a manager a fair crack of the whip?
#bitofpatience

You're good people

 

[Colonel Dax]

This thread ??‍

 

[shelfboy68]

I hated the appointment and I hate him, it’s actually soured how I feel about my team too which I didn’t think could happen given some of the stuff I’ve seen over 40 years.

I haven’t been back since the previous Chelsea debacle, it’s good fortune that people hoover up tickets although that’s not going to last long with the dross they are being subjected to.

Anyone who saw the toxic mess he left behind him at Manchester Utd and then pays him 15m a year is beyond stupid.

He can’t motivate players anymore, he’s no longer charming just bitter and without Rui Faria appears tactically clueless and players know as much.

It will definitely end badly and he will blame the club with some cheap shots on the way out the door to win favour with Chelsea fans.
Unfortunately because he knows he is finished and won’t get so spectacularly overpaid ever again it isn’t going to be soon enough.
A potential positive is that the cluster this will become may end up being the end of Levy.

Did I mention I hate him?

Chelsea. Slag. Out.

Not a fan of Jose then.

 

[LDNYid]

He needs at least 5 new signings in the summer (RB, LB, CB, DM, backup CF) as well as getting rid of the dross already in those positions.

I'd be utterly shocked if both Levy and Jose didn't know this would be the case when he was appointed.

With that in mind I'm not panicking yet as top 4 or a trophy were a distant memory back in October.

The manager needs to be backed and I'll reserve my judgment until he has his players in place.

For me Levy needs to step up and give the manager what he needs to be successful. If he doesn't then I think our misgivings need to be directed in his direction rather than Jose's.

I agree with this. I’m not happy with the football we’re playing, but I think it’s unfair to judge José too critically given the context of both his arrival and the condition of the squad. Our chairman has to deliver this summer; if he doesn’t, thus compounding our continued failures and decline in footballing terms, I’m going for Daniel’s jugular.

 

[panoma]

How can so many want Mou gone already?

He has completely changed the season and form we were in. For the last 12 months under Pochettino we avaraged about a point per game and under Mou we avarage about 2 points a game. That's a drastic change.

And to the ones complaining about style; we have tons of avarage players and Mourinho still fresh in the job. What about giving him some time before beating him with that stick?

 

[stov]

Come on fellas. We’ve never been frightened of losing . But do it in style. The game is about glory.

Parking the bus every game, including Southampton at home is not Tottenham. This is not my club. I’m not having it. But he’s here for at least another season, killing our club. How do we change it?

You can't say that, the mourinho apologists will be up in arms.