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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

stormfly

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Dec 6, 2006
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I’m getting a bit worried about some of the stories (in the media) I’m reading about Jose being sacked at the end of the season. One of the reasons is the style of football which is understandable but then the next reason is because players have been frozen out, mainly Dele Alli and England international Harry Winks! ITK was hearing that Jose has finally weeded out the players with a weak mindset etc and they’ll be sold but now it seems we are just going to sack him and continue this cycle of failure. Is Levy going to say to the next guy, “Welcome to Spurs, now this is the team I expect you pick”. Very worrying.
 
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dagraham

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Sep 20, 2005
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For years we wanted CL football then Redknapp and Poch delivered it.

Then we got desperate for trophies after a long period without any.

The biggest positive of Jose's time here is the reminder is that none of the success matters if you don't enjoy watching your team play.

Agree generally with your point, but I would accept winning the league or CL playing the Jose way. Problem is it’s a pretty high and unrealistic bar to have to reach to put up with it.
 

John48

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Aug 31, 2015
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Thought Jose looked dejected on the bench on Fri night & he showed about as much enthusiasm as some of the players on the pitch. Suggests to me he knows his time is up.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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Was he ever a tactically astute coach?. He managed the best teams with the best players and had the biggest amount of cash to operate with. I'm pretty sure most managers given the tools that Mourinho had they would deliver the same level of silverware.

This is silly. Inter and Porto both achieved things with Jose that no other manager has managed. He was clearly, unarguably, a phenomenal manager in the 00s. He is equally clearly not anymore.
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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Agree generally with your point, but I would accept winning the league or CL playing the Jose way. Problem is it’s a pretty high and unrealistic bar to have to reach to put up with it.
I don’t mean to dismiss Jose’s football completely.

At the beginning of the season we were defending well and hitting on the break. When done well this can be an entertaining style of football.

But the players are not buying into it. The defenders look devoid of confidence and everyone is both terrified of making mistakes and at the same time making them.

It is really unenjoyable.
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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This is silly. Inter and Porto both achieved things with Jose that no other manager has managed. He was clearly, unarguably, a phenomenal manager in the 00s. He is equally clearly not anymore.
He might do well for a national side. Would be interesting to see him manage England.
 

KaribYid

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Jul 2, 2012
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Was he ever a tactically astute coach?. He managed the best teams with the best players and had the biggest amount of cash to operate with. I'm pretty sure most managers given the tools that Mourinho had they would deliver the same level of silverware.

So by that logic, Guardiola isn’t a tactically astute coach either as he has the best players and the biggest amount of cash to operate with.

There’s lots to criticize about Mourinho but let’s not rewrite history and act like he wasn’t one of the best coaches this century.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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It's clear that Jose is leaving - I'm not quite sure why there is a need to completely rewrite history and destroy his legacy.
 

MassadaTom

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Aug 8, 2019
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Wish we just carried on this in way, really not sure how things went so sideways. We looked so solid defensively.
We where never mentally build to resists persistent pressure. One bad result and confidence plummet and Mourinho choose wrong tools (more pressure) to rebuild it.
 

Gbspurs

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Jan 27, 2011
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Wish we just carried on this in way, really not sure how things went so sideways. We looked so solid defensively.

The thing is the general football was crap and you can only play that way for so long. We rode our luck alot, I think the Man City game for example we scored with our only shots on target and they absolutely peppered out goal.
 

dagraham

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Sep 20, 2005
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I don’t mean to dismiss Jose’s football completely.

At the beginning of the season we were defending well and hitting on the break. When done well this can be an entertaining style of football.

But the players are not buying into it. The defenders look devoid of confidence and everyone is both terrified of making mistakes and at the same time making them.

It is really unenjoyable.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I didn’t even particularly enjoy it when it was working.
 

Aphex

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Jan 30, 2021
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I think the biggest thing with Jose, and his biggest failing nowadays, is man management. This is the thing that has let him down. He's alienated players, fails to get the best out of them, sidelined others. For all the talk of tactics and coaching, I think it's man management which was his undoing at United and now here at Spurs.

There is no doubt he is a highly motivated, studious manager, with an exceptional will to win, but it's not enough if you can't bring the players with you.

I question what is going on at the training ground because no players have improved, but for me it's all about man management. A few months ago we were saying that Aurier was in the best form of his Spurs career and he had even managed to get some good stuff out of Sissoko, then it all fell apart. The common denominator is he lost the players, they didn't turn bad overnight.

That said, we must move on from many of these players. Winks, Alli, Dier, Sissoko, Aurier, there is no reintegration that needs to happen there. Just get rid and move on, we won't miss them.
 

SPURSLIFE

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Jul 21, 2011
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Thought Jose looked dejected on the bench on Fri night & he showed about as much enthusiasm as some of the players on the pitch. Suggests to me he knows his time is up.
I also noticed in the Utd game he spent more time going around hugging all the Utd players. It's almost as if he was saying I with I was back with you guys. Maybe it's just me and my conspiracy problems.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Managers like Tuchel and Moyes have made Jose look really bad this season, Moyes has massively over achieved this season with inferior players, yes he's had more time to implement his game plan but his teams have structure and direction and he has kept all his players happy. Tuchel has come in and made an immediate impact on his players and that's with European football. Jose has been here for a year and a half and we've had moments of his philosophy coming to fruition here and there but it just hasn't been consistent.
 
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