I've never disliked a Spurs squad more than this one

[Strikeb4ck]

I like this squad. There is a good mix of personalities and the players seem to get along well.

I like Vorm a lot too, don't know if anyone saw but he was the first one celebrating off the bench for the goals and came out during the Benteke/Mason conflict too.

 

[sunnydelight786]

If the players are not getting/adjusting to MP system surely he has to be flexible enough to tweak it, as a short term measure, to accommodate the players we have. To me the vast majority of them look lost in this system and tbh so am I, what exactly is it....?

 

[THFCSPURS19]

One bad game?

Yes. That's what I wrote.

 

[dere911]

Eriksen has been horrible needs to be bench until he gets that hes fucking overrated

 

[DaSpurs]

On a not entirely differnet note, anyone notice the absolute disdain in Dembele's eyes when Poch threw his water bottle down?

I'm one of Dembele's biggest detractors, but that's now what I saw. Tbh I saw what looked like genuine intrigue as he seemed to look hopeful Poch may make a change.

 

[DaSpurs]

Eriksen has been horrible needs to be bench until he gets that hes fucking overrated

Not overrated as we saw last year, but there seems to be something tremendously wrong right now. Just does not look involved/interested enough this season, and it's interesting his national coach called him out for it too. Something's wrong, and he needs to get it the fuck sorted, and I agree he needs to meet the pinewood until he does so.

 

[Kendall]

Rose is pretty much guff.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Not overrated as we saw last year, but there seems to be something tremendously wrong right now. Just does not look involved/interested enough this season, and it's interesting his national coach called him out for it too. Something's wrong, and he needs to get it the fuck sorted, and I agree he needs to meet the pinewood until he does so.

"Tremendously wrong"?- Come on dude, he's been average this season but not as bad as you're making out. He had a few good games before last week and scored some goals but hasn't reached last season's heights whatsoever.

But tremendously wrong? Not for me. He's not overrated either.

 

[danielneeds]

Eriksen has been horrible needs to be bench until he gets that hes fucking overrated

I think he's lost confidence because the blend of the team is not suiting his skillset. He gets the ball in the final third he has Lamela and Chadli usually within 20 feet of him and little movement from Ade or Soldado.

If he had two flying wingers either side and a clever, fast striker making good runs he'd come alive. Look at Siggurdsson - at Spurs shoehorned in the side with a couple of other No 10s, at Swansea - two fast wingers either side, and a strong target in Bony ahead, and the goals and assists are flowing.

 

[Lufti]

Vertonghen getting stick for having his head up his arse, supposedly for not caring Without his 'tackle', I'm not sure we woulda won that game. Seriously. His two footed tackle is where the game got fiesty, where tempers started to fray, all leading to Benteke's red and our subsequent victory. Of course I can't say that for sure, but I think it's a little unfair to give him stick based on his attitude today, even if he didn't play particularly well

 

[TheGreenLily]

1 bad game from Rose this season and whoosh....he's suddenly not good enough.

for the past few games his passing has been awful.

 

[TheGreenLily]

It may have not been enough but he has been the only player IMO who gives it his all all the time. But what what you expect from someone biased towards young English "Talent"?

I have very rarely seen Lamela not run and try to get stuck in, okay not everything he tries comes up, but he always tries.

 

[Spurger King]

I wouldn't say I dislike this squad the most. I do feel that I have no attachment to them.

Some players are trying to put in a shift, but I do feel the naturally best players have one eye on an easy route to higher and better things by orchestrating a move a move if their needs are not satisfied quickly. That's the modern game.

I've said previously that I just look at spurs as watching a bunch of players on rent. We don't own the best ones. There's very little passion and care for the club and it's history.

Hence we don't sing their names and the atmosphere at the Lane is shocking.

Nail on the head. Whether it be waiting for a bigger club to come in with an offer, or just enjoying the wages and London lifestyle before ending up at a smaller club more suited to their abilities, one way or another the majority of our squad are treading water.

One thing the last few seasons has taught me is not to get remotely attached to any good players. Lloris? He'll be gone in the summer. Verts? I'd imagine he'd jump at the chance to leave for any big CL club. Lamela starts playing well? Just a matter of how much we'll get for him.

Even when Bale turned into Superman the whole experience was tainted by knowing he'd be off to the highest bidder. As you say, it's pretty much watching a bunch of players on rent.

Ultimately it's (obviously) about money. As fans we we have the option of three predominant choices. We can accept that we'll only ever be also-rans with the current owners in place, which is a pretty joyless and empty situation to be in; we can turn against the owners and the way they are running the club, which offers no guarantees of making things any better; or, we can lap it up as a matter of sticking by the club through thick or thin.

Ultimately I'm just finding it increasingly hard to care about football in general. Fans are just seen as gullible and faceless cash cows, and the vast majority of players just want to make as much money as they can in their short sporting careers. I don't blame them, but it doesn't exactly make me care about them.

I give Andros a lot of stick for his shooting, but at least the guy is a Spurs fan who knows our history. Defoe wasn't a Spurs fan, but had a list of our top goal scorers on his mirror so every day he could remind himself that he was writing his chapter in our story. I doubt most of our players know much more about our club other than that we're based in London, play in a white shirt, and have a stadium called White Hart Lane.

If our players cared about the club and what it means to the fans, I'd support them with all my heart to the ends of the Earth.

 

[Sweech]

I have very rarely seen Lamela not run and try to get stuck in, okay not everything he tries comes up, but he always tries.

His tackling is very Holtby-esque, as 90% of the time he just ends up fouling the other player, but the kid clearly puts in the effort.

 

[Kendall]

for the past few games his passing has been awful.

absolutely. He has improved his positioning defensively, but there's nowhere near enough quality for him to play this system in a consistent manner. His delivery and decision making is too patchy. Good engine, but a bit guff.

 

[Spursidol]

Problems with this squad include :

1. We bought 7 players the summer before last (and are still trying to work them out) plus another 7 this summer (several of whom have had little match time. That's 14 players, the majority of tyyhe squad Really we do not know most of the squad - so its a problem to empathise eith them.

2. Other than probably Llloris, we have NO stars. So nobody wants to follow them. I do think that several in the squad such as Kane, Mason, Eriksen (although he's not been on top form this season), Lamela (but he's been inconsistent this saeason) and a few others COULD become stars, but we might need to wait a season or two.

If we do not make major changes in January (maybe 2 in, 2+ out) and a few out in the summer.... plus get a few more from the youth system into the first team squad and I do not rule out an 'older' star (think Naybet, Davids, Gallas)...... I hope we get a few 'stars' next seasion and a squad we can empathise with. That will make a hell of a difference

 

[DaSpurs]

"Tremendously wrong"?- Come on dude, he's been average this season but not as bad as you're making out. He had a few good games before last week and scored some goals but hasn't reached last season's heights whatsoever.

But tremendously wrong? Not for me. He's not overrated either.

I don't mean "tremendously wrong" on the pitch and in his performances, I mean what I believe may be going on in his life outside of the game. He's never looked this uninvolved before, and if it were just Spurs I'd chalk it up to us but his national coach was spot on in his evaluation of Eriksen in the recent international break. He just looks so out of it lately, and to such an extent where usually something is going on in the player's life or he's just burnt out. But regardless, something's off in his head.

He isn't low on talent, but he's certainly low on focus atm.

 

[Spurger King]

Problems with this squad include :

1. We bought 7 players the summer before last (and are still trying to work them out) plus another 7 this summer (several of whom have had little match time. That's 14 players, the majority of tyyhe squad Really we do not know most of the squad - so its a problem to empathise eith them.

2. Other than probably Llloris, we have NO stars. So nobody wants to follow them. I do think that several in the squad such as Kane, Mason, Eriksen (although he's not been on top form this season), Lamela (but he's been inconsistent this saeason) and a few others COULD become stars, but we might need to wait a season or two.

If we do not make major changes in January (maybe 2 in, 2+ out) and a few out in the summer.... plus get a few more from the youth system into the first team squad and I do not rule out an 'older' star (think Naybet, Davids, Gallas)...... I hope we get a few 'stars' next seasion and a squad we can empathise with. That will make a hell of a difference

The big problem is that there's no point in being too excited about any 'stars' as we all know they'll be off in a year or two. Once Eriksen and/or Lamela start turning out great performances in most of their games is the moment the clock starts ticking on their time with us.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I think a lot of us still underrate Naughton - remember, playing at the back, if there is one weak link back there then it reflects massively on the rest of the defenders, much more than any other position relies on their neighbours.

Kaboul has been having stinkers with this high line, though when we're forced back and defending deep, he's often in his element and shines, so against teams that we are going out to attack against he always looks a bit lost in space but, against teams who pose a more pressing threat, he starts to look more like the warrior he was before his long injury lay up.

I dunno, we have players that are capable of being fantastic, but then we use a formation that barely suits any of them - i can see what Pochoyo wants from them, it makes sense, but not with at least half of the squad we have. It's like he wants to serve salad but his ingredients are mainly meat based.

Mason gets it, as does Kane and, although i know some of you will disagree, Lamela, Eriksen & Chadders, but without a fully functioning defense, able to hold a line and respond when someone breaks against us, whilst still able to distribute the ball without lumping it up field, all their effort will come up short.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Nail on the head. Whether it be waiting for a bigger club to come in with an offer, or just enjoying the wages and London lifestyle before ending up at a smaller club more suited to their abilities, one way or another the majority of our squad are treading water.

One thing the last few seasons has taught me is not to get remotely attached to any good players. Lloris? He'll be gone in the summer. Verts? I'd imagine he'd jump at the chance to leave for any big CL club. Lamela starts playing well? Just a matter of how much we'll get for him.

Even when Bale turned into Superman the whole experience was tainted by knowing he'd be off to the highest bidder. As you say, it's pretty much watching a bunch of players on rent.

Ultimately it's (obviously) about money. As fans we we have the option of three predominant choices. We can accept that we'll only ever be also-rans with the current owners in place, which is a pretty joyless and empty situation to be in; we can turn against the owners and the way they are running the club, which offers no guarantees of making things any better; or, we can lap it up as a matter of sticking by the club through thick or thin.

Ultimately I'm just finding it increasingly hard to care about football in general. Fans are just seen as gullible and faceless cash cows, and the vast majority of players just want to make as much money as they can in their short sporting careers. I don't blame them, but it doesn't exactly make me care about them.

I give Andros a lot of stick for his shooting, but at least the guy is a Spurs fan who knows our history. Defoe wasn't a Spurs fan, but had a list of our top goal scorers on his mirror so every day he could remind himself that he was writing his chapter in our story. I doubt most of our players know much more about our club other than that we're based in London, play in a white shirt, and have a stadium called White Hart Lane.

If our players cared about the club and what it means to the fans, I'd support them with all my heart to the ends of the Earth.

I agree with most of this. But when it comes to players like Lloris or Bale, it's impossible to not have some sort of connection with them.

To this day, I've never felt attached to a player like I do with Bale. I still try and watch Bale whenever he plays and he (and Modric to an extent) are the sole reason I want Madrid to do well. Modric did an interview last year where he said he still tries to watch us whenever he can and still supports us. Yes, he was a **** when he wanted to go to Chelsea, but small things like that (the interview) make me appreciate them so much more. Moreover, when Bale referred to Tottenham as 'we' in an interview before one of our matches against last season, I admired him so much more. I bet he still cares more about the club than some of the players we have now. Bale was the player who was always there during the 'good times' and therefore, the attachment I feel will never end, plus there's the fact that he always gave a shit.

I mentioned Lloris as well. He saves us so often and it's clear that he cares. We know he'll be off in the next couple of years but at least he gives a damn, tries to be a leader, and is just generally incredible when he plays.

We all knew Bale would leave and we know Lloris will as well but there are some players deserve this moves and they are 2 examples. That's why I wasn't angry at Levy when Bale was sold and won't be when Lloris is. Let them live their dream and be happy for them- because they've earned it.