General transfer Policy Argument Thread

[stevenurse]

i think the sheer amount of players we have been linked with through both established and new ITK's has shown our approach is slightly scattergun.

 

[Donki]

This is he exact arguments I have been talking about for ages, people baising arguments on ITK and tabloid journalists....... your living in a fucking fantasy land! Your writing threads based on NOTHING factual, NOTHING! How can anyone even try and make an educated response to you? Your making up stories to suit your own agendas, getting yourself wound up on the words of people you DONT know!! If at the end of the window know one is signed by all means let lose but untill then no one knows whats going to happen! Stop acting like children and get over it.

Were screwed again? Screwed???!!!! Screwed???! We finished 5th and had a great ruin in the CL how the fuck is that screwed?? Yes we need a striker or maybe 2, yes Diarra would be nice, yes Cahill would be welcome but if not we are hardly screwed are we?

 

[Scott Spur]

i think the sheer amount of players we have been linked with through both established and new ITK's has shown our approach is slightly scattergun.

that's because we are 'feeding on scraps', we are after players that have nowhere realistically to go or clubs who have to sell (e.g VDV). We are not at the very top table of football, so there are some quality players we can pick up without breaking the bank.........funnily enough the top players are at the clubs that can bankroll their wages, unlike us.

 

[venablesphil]

i think the sheer amount of players we have been linked with through both established and new ITK's has shown our approach is slightly scattergun.

I'm onlying playings devils advocate here but maybe its that we have idnetified several targets for the postions we want to improve on and have worked on all of them to find out which ones are avliable, how much they woul be, if they are interested, etc, etc.

Another thing to consider is that some of ITK may have been incorrect and players that have been suggested to us were never actually in our plans, if thats the case it may be less scatergun in fact, just not in fiction?

 

[jimmy-jojo]

This is he exact arguments I have been talking about for ages, people baising arguments on ITK and tabloid journalists....... your living in a fucking fantasy land! Your writing threads based on NOTHING factual, NOTHING! How can anyone even try and make an educated response to you? Your making up stories to suit your own agendas, getting yourself wound up on the words of people you DONT know!! If at the end of the window know one is signed by all means let lose but untill then no one knows whats going to happen! Stop acting like children and get over it.

Were screwed again? Screwed???!!!! Screwed???! We finished 5th and had a great ruin in the CL how the fuck is that screwed?? Yes we need a striker or maybe 2, yes Diarra would be nice, yes Cahill would be welcome but if not we are hardly screwed are we?

The single FACT I am getting myself 'wound up' about is:-

Transfers In:

Brad Freidel

There's no fantasy in that.

 

[mendesstormer]

that's because we are 'feeding on scraps', we are after players that have nowhere realistically to go or clubs who have to sell (e.g VDV). We are not at the very top table of football, so there are some quality players we can pick up without breaking the bank.........funnily enough the top players are at the clubs that can bankroll their wages, unlike us.

This. (I presume you meant there are few quality players we can pick up without breaking the bank.)

And the absolute core of our problem is we are punching above our weight in trying to break the monopoly at the top. In order to significantly improve an already very strong squad we have to sign top quality players, who are nearly always subject to offers from clubs who are either established in the CL or have way more money at their disposal than we do. The club are doing the right thing in pursuing these kinds of players, but it's inevitably going to be hard to close the deals.

 

[Paolo10]

Donki, this striker issue has went on since last year. At first it was wait until we qualify for the CL, then January, then it was until we shift the deadwood, now it's 6 days to go and what have we to show for it? A free transfer and a while lot of talk...and our best player wants to leave.

Progress?

 

[Scott Spur]

This. (I presume you meant there are few quality players we can pick up without breaking the bank.)

And the absolute core of our problem is we are punching above our weight in trying to break the monopoly at the top. In order to significantly improve an already very strong squad we have to sign top quality players, who are nearly always subject to offers from clubs who are either established in the CL or have way more money at their disposal than we do. The club are doing the right thing in pursuing these kinds of players, but it's inevitably going to be hard to close the deals.

right with you on that one man...........

 

[Stoof]

That is the most clueless thing I have read in years.

You were so close to clicking the spoiler button as well, and then you went a bit head mental.

It's OK, it happens to me sometimes. When people don't grasp something for the three-hundredth time, I tend to go a bit doolally by throwing some computers at my secretary, punching a photocopier and kicking my boss in the tits.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Please stop making excuses. If we mess up then we only have ourselves to blame.

Adebayor is a massive risk because Man City really wouldn't want to sell to us unless they have to. The player is also on astronomical wages.

If it goes tits up then it shouldnt be a surprise. We shouldnt be gambling all our hopes on one player...the risk is too big

 

[Rout-Ledge]

The one thing that strikes me is that, as things stand, we've progressively spent less and less on transfers for the last three seasons despite having increased success on the pitch. I suspect we may well still be making payments on some of those players we bought during the season we spunked over £100m (08/09).

 

[OmarsComing]

this whole thread

 

[Paolo10]

Facepalm / insert excuse / there's still 6 days left.

Yeah great.

 

[Legend10]

Just opening this up so we can have a thread to discuss the Spurs transfer policy generally. Hopefully this will free up the ITK thread for just that...ITK.

can't you move this nonsens back over to the Transfer Rumours and ITK rubbish as some of us would prefer to be spared this junk?

Can't believe there's still a man alive that reads that ITK stuff!

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

The thread title is an oxymoron, we have no transfer policy. If we had a transfer policy we wouldn't be scouting targets during the window and we wouldn't still be waiting at the end of August 2011 for the marquee signing our CL qualification in May 2010 should have led to.

What we as fans can't figure it is who is to blame, a chairman who is too conservative or a manager who lacks transfer imagination beyond former players, players in England, players who have played against us and lastly players recommended by his son. However, what is clear is that one or both them are definitely culpable for incompetence.

 

[ThorntonSpur]

I don't know our transfer policy as i don't know Mr Levy.

i would hazard a guess that the policy has been to get Rossi. I think he was harry's number one target. This has now become a dead duck with his club qualifying for the group stages of CL. Up till then I think they still felt that he may be persuaded to come.

the second aspect has been to bring in as we always do some youngsters. this has been achieved.

the third aspect was a keeper with experience - we have achieved this.

the fourth aspect is to keep the players we want in the squad we have.

the fifth aspect is to sell players we do not want.

the sixth aspect is to identify new striker now number one target is unachievable.

the seventh aspect is a couple of good players to improve on those that we want to get rid off

the eight aspect is to get players in on salaries we can manage.

therefore i would guess that as we seem to do we will do last day business.

 

[mike_l]

I do find Stoof's resolute defence of our transfer strategy admirable, but surely by now it has become apparent that there are at least some shortcomings in the way we are going about our business?

Negotiations may not be easy, but they can't routinely be as difficult as we appear to be making them. I'm not advocating blowing ridiculous amounts on strikers, but there must surely be some players at a similar level to Berbatov when we initially signed him out there, I would like to have seen us get someone in like that and then take our time getting Adebayor done.

Now it appears that Adebayor is the only basket we have any eggs in on the striker front, which is a worry if he gets injured as we will be back to the same misfiring bunch as before.

Obviously the time for a TW post mortem is next Thursday, but it's still a little annoying that we didn't get our business done in advance of the season starting, OK United away would likely have been a write off whoever we fielded but City at home would have been a much better prospect with a proper striker and a strong cm. Our inability to close deals in a more timely manner could well cost us points this weekend.

Of course there is always the issue of our bloated squad needing to be trimmed, you then get into the teritory of questioning whether our selling policy is poorly thought out too? Worst case we can't shift them, but even if we do you have to wonder whether the extra recouped in fees is worth it anyway given that we have had them on the wagebill for 2 months more than if we had sold earlier. But that is speculation anyway as we don't knospecifics of any offers received or even if there have been any.

 

[mike_l]

PS.

What I am sure of is that Levy wants the best for the club, he isn't just dragging deals out because deadline day gives him a boner, I'm certain he has valid reasons for the way things have gone.

 

[mill]

If we wait until deadline day surely we'll have to contend with one of the problems of last window, it'll be too late for the vendors to replace our targets? Obviously that doesn't apply so much with Ade and Diarra but if we've any other targets, as 'ITK' ambiguously seems in imply, the results likely to be the same.

Tbh I'd be happy with just a striker now, we need more but going by recent history if it's not a bargain we're not interested, VDV, Sandro fairly cheap while being a gamble, Pienaar and Friedel and kids

 

[mill]

I do find Stoof's resolute defence of our transfer strategy admirable, but surely by now it has become apparent that there are at least some shortcomings in the way we are going about our business?

Negotiations may not be easy, but they can't routinely be as difficult as we appear to be making them. I'm not advocating blowing ridiculous amounts on strikers, but there must surely be some players at a similar level to Berbatov when we initially signed him out there, I would like to have seen us get someone in like that and then take our time getting Adebayor done.

Now it appears that Adebayor is the only basket we have any eggs in on the striker front, which is a worry if he gets injured as we will be back to the same misfiring bunch as before.

Obviously the time for a TW post mortem is next Thursday, but it's still a little annoying that we didn't get our business done in advance of the season starting, OK United away would likely have been a write off whoever we fielded but City at home would have been a much better prospect with a proper striker and a strong cm. Our inability to close deals in a more timely manner could well cost us points this weekend.

Of course there is always the issue of our bloated squad needing to be trimmed, you then get into the teritory of questioning whether our selling policy is poorly thought out too? Worst case we can't shift them, but even if we do you have to wonder whether the extra recouped in fees is worth it anyway given that we have had them on the wagebill for 2 months more than if we had sold earlier. But that is speculation anyway as we don't knospecifics of any offers received or even if there have been any.

brilliant post.

The thing that worries me though about the bolded bit is that maybe we thought Man U then Citeh why worry about getting players in for them games, we won't win them anyway. Which would be a complete lack of ambition in two of the biggest games of our season, if we had any real ambition to genuinely challenge for top four let alone the league