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The optimistic case for life after Harry Kane

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journeyman

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I go into this one with eyes wide open. Kane is far and away our best player, one of the best finishers in the world and an outstanding creator too. He has delivered season after season and it may be decades before we see any Spurs player challenge the records he’s about to set.

And so, even though I want to be optimistic about Spurs after Kane - and I believe he will most likely leave for a Prem rival and a fee Levy can’t resist this summer - I accept that it’s an uphill task to make the case that we can hit similar levels again without our talisman.

It was his free-kicks that set me thinking though. Not because he has failed to score any since that deflected effort v Villa in 2014 and because that has probably cost us a handful of goals through the years. (In truth, a pittance compared to the chances he’s put away from open play.) But more because it shows something about Kane’s power within the setup: that managers as strong as Mourinho and Conte are still letting him blast free kicks into walls week after week, month after month, year after year, despite it being plain to us, to them, to everyone but Harry, that he’s not the one to take them. And yet even figures as powerful as Mourinho and Conte, who could obviously see the problem, preferred to keep Kane sweet rather than confront the issue.

And it got me thinking re how our reversion to playing counter-attacking football since 2019 - under Jose, then Nuno and now Conte - has suited Kane more than anyone, releasing him from constant pressing as he gets older and unleashing his terrific creative skills. He has undoubtedly been our outstanding player over this period (even, I would argue, last season, when it was Son who got the plaudits and the Golden Boot). But while this style has suited Kane - especially coming out the other end of persistent ankle injuries in the final part of Poch’s time with us (which of course also cost him his place in our Champions League run in 2019) - has it suited Spurs generally? Or has it seen us give up far too much possession and territory to teams who are now much better at exploiting those advantages than they were even back when Mourinho or Conte won their league titles?

We all agree, I think, that we want to see front-foot and possession-based football back at the Lane. And, of course, if you told me tomorrow that Kane wants to be a part of that, and wants to sign a new contract, I’d bite your hand off. The risks of him leaving are a dark cloud, with only theoretical silver linings. And yet… just as City racked up more points pre the phenomenal number 9 that is Haaland, just as Utd have new vigour without Ronaldo, just as Arsenal now, or Liverpool previously, have built their successes without number 9s who can even remotely rival Kane’s goal rate, perhaps we can compete in the future with a game plan which doesn’t put quite so much emphasis on a single individual and his formidable strengths and instead prioritises team fluidity, movement, pressing, and wanting to dominate teams again from start to finish.

Or so I tell myself anyway.
 

TheAmerican

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I'm sure I'm not alone that the whole transfer summer saga took out all my emotion I had regarding the matter. When/if he goes I'll oddly be fairly okay with it. I've spent all I had worrying over life-after-Kane.
 

chrisd2k

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Well it will be Richarlison leading the line and despite my reservations he's Brazil's 9 and is better centrally anyway.

We need another two wing forwards as Son is gone even if he stays if you know what I mean. This form at his age I'm not sure you come back from. Hopefully he does though obviously.
 

bbunc

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I get that he’s the dream. I hate to break it to you, but he’s unfortunately already reached the point where he’s too good for us. He’ll be at Madrid, Bayern, Manchester, Barca or Chelsea. Sorry - a player with those choices isn’t coming to us even if we could match the $.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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No more one striker in our squad every year, let’s get back to 3 or 4 of the fuckers, like the good times when we had the quarter of : Keane, Defoe, Mido, Berbatov ?
 

Flobadob

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Life after Kane will be fine I think. Richarlison is best as a 9 and he’s proven for Brazil he’s a fucking good one. He’s also an absolute menace and pain in the ass for defenders, if the ball is played anywhere within a couple yards of him he’s going to challenge and if he doesn’t win it, he’ll make the defender make a play they don’t want to. Also works his socks off, off the ball. Genuinely think we’ll be absolutely fine without Kane. Replacing Son is going to be the tricky part of a rebuild. Got a lot of faith in Kulusevski and Richarlison going into the future
 

Japhet

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Might as well get used to the idea. If Levy cocks this up with Conte he'll be off, and to be honest I'd find that much easier since that poxy interview with Gary Neville. He'll have Greavsie's record by then which seems the most important thing to him and he'll do better chasing more personal glory elsewhere. I find myself longing for a forward line that put pressure on the opposition back line now when I watch our efforts lately, so that might be a bit of a silver lining I guess.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I’d take him and Kvara as a Son replacement but neither is ever going to happen with Levy in charge. He’s probably the best young striker in Europe along with Haaland and will cost well over 100 mil. Napoli are doing incredibly well at the moment and really are in much better shape to that. He has a contract until 2025 with an extra year option I believe. And they have already been talking to him about an extension + pay rise. If Oshimen were to leave he will never be coming here unless QSI buy the whole club and start throwing crazy contracts about. When he leaves it will be to an elite club which we are not.
 

Ghost Hardware

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No more one striker in our squad every year, let’s get back to 3 or 4 of the fuckers, like the good times when we had the quarter of : Keane, Defoe, Mido, Berbatov ?
I guess so much depends on tactics etc. Richy becoming number 1 makes a lot of sense and personally I’d love to try and get Lautaro (even tho I know Inter are a bitch to deal with but I think he will be looking to move next summer as they probably won’t get CL). I think those two could play off each other well. Then I’d bring in a young forward unless Scarlett is ready? I haven’t really been following his loan spell.
 

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In my opinion Kane leaving will not be as damaging for the overall structure of the team as when Bale left. We have a premier League number 9 ready to go who will hit double figures. As other people have mentioned, if Son could hit double figure again and Kulu then I don't see us dropping off as some may believe.

Also I have a feeling Son would love to be the main man and has always shined when given that opportunity when Kane has been out of the team. If he was to be made captain following departure of Kane and Lloris, I genuinely believe we will get another two good seasons out of him.
 

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I'm doing to get downvoted for this but I'm fine with it. For all his excellent goalscoring, he's never stepped up and taken a game by the scruff of the neck when it mattered.

Yeah, we can blame Levy, etc for what we've put around him but Kane's got some of that responsibility too and I think we'll be fine without him, especially if we invest in a decent replacement.
 

Ghost Hardware

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In my opinion Kane leaving will not be as damaging for the overall structure of the team as when Bale left. We have a premier League number 9 ready to go who will hit double figures. As other people have mentioned, if Son could hit double figure again and Kulu then I don't see us dropping off as some may believe.

Also I have a feeling Son would love to be the main man and has always shined when given that opportunity when Kane has been out of the team. If he was to be made captain following departure of Kane and Lloris, I genuinely believe we will get another two good seasons out of him.
The most important thing to do when Kane leaves is to buy a top quality playmaker. I feel like that might be a bigger miss than his goals (although loosing that won’t be easy). Even tho I love Kulu he doesn’t have the vision or passing range of Kane. Even against Arsenal he created two excellent brake aways in the first 10 mins that should have resulted in goals.
 

Ghost Hardware

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The replacement is already on board. Richarlison will be moved to a more central position.
I’d say we have half of his replacement in Richarlison, the goal scoring half. Need a replacement for his playmaker side as mentioned above. The one big difference between Kane and Richy is Richy is not one for fashioning chances for himself out of nothing. Kane can do that. It’s really important if we give Richy the required support if we want him to be successful. As long as he has players around him that can create space by cleaver passing and dribbling then I think he will do well.
 

ILS

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The replacement is already on board. Richarlison will be moved to a more central position.
And it will give us opportunity to purchase a young striker as an alternative option to challenge him.

I will feel disappointed for Harry himself if he came to the end of his career and has not won either the premier League or CL. We had our opportunity and now it's time for him to go off and do it elsewhere, in my eyes he will always be a spurs legend.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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As I said on another board: we won nothing with Kane and we can definitely win nothing without him!

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jay2040

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It would be sad to see him go and wish him success. Equally I am happy with moving on as something needs to change on the pitch too
 

Flobadob

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The replacement is already on board. Richarlison will be moved to a more central position.
Opposition fans are always surprised when I tell them I don’t think Kane leaving will hinder us. Richarlison will give us enough goal threat and on top of that he’s more physical than Kane and will put far more pressure on a back line off the ball, Kane achieves the square root of fuck all when he presses because he’s so slow. Sometimes it feels like he’s not even trying. That first man to press is so important because it’s the trigger for others behind to press the options the player on the ball has too, therefore putting even more pressure on them because they know they’ll need to make a spot on pass or they’ll put their teammate in trouble. It’s definitely something we are missing with Kane and Son, as good as they are. Getting a young LW that can press with Richy and Kulu would be excellent
 
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