Four Spurs players facing 10-day hotel quarantine after international break

[talbot64]

It’s far from ideal but assume this is why we kept Doherty and Davies. Gives cover for centre backs in Davies and Tanganga.

Not sure when Rodon is back but suspect we will going with a back 3 against Palace

 

[Coolbury]

So what would have happened if an English club was drawn in the same group as Besiktas in the champ lge.
Turkey still on the red list. Do we believe that the whole playing staff of that club would have 10 days quarantine.
I thought there were different rules for elite sport.

Something UEFA will have to deal with if Turkey stays on the red list they might insist on neutral grounds but then I don't know what the position is for other countries in Europe as regards sport.

Also how are other countries treating players in the Argentina squad , they have players from French, Italian & Spanish clubs can't believe they will all be required to isolate on return , PSG have released Messi is he going to miss games for PSG, Dybala for Juve ?

This seems to be the French red list similar to our own, have to assume other countries like France, Italy and Spain are giving exemptions to sport .

Countries/territories on the “red” list: Afghanistan, Algeria, Argentina, Bangladesh, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Georgia, Indonesia, Iran, Maldives, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Russia, Seychelles, South Africa, Suriname, Tunisia and Turkey

 

[beats1]

This is an outrageous situation to be in. I'm angry at the club and the players, the club for not being able to force the players into staying and for the players for putting our good start to the season and big games in jeopardy.

The Argentinian FA have suggested if you don't come you will potentially lose your place and it will go against you for the World Cup

 

[king_yid]

The Argentinian FA have suggested if you don't come you will potentially lose your place and it will go against you for the World Cup

AFA are just a bunch of crooks. No way they would keep their best players out for the WC. The Argentines would riot.

 

[Yid-ol]

News article from daily mail

They apparently didn't say they had been in the UK in the last 14 days on their documents and now could face 14 days quarantine in Brazil before even coming home....

Argentina stars Giovani Lo Celso, Cristian Romero, Emiliano Martinez and Emi Buendia under investigation by Brazilian authorities for 'breaching quarantine rules' and face TWO WEEKS of isolation before their 10-day quarantine in the UK

 

[Coolbury]

Sounds like a typical Daily Mail story.

 

[panoma]

News article from daily mail

They apparently didn't say they had been in the UK in the last 14 days on their documents and now could face 14 days quarantine in Brazil before even coming home....

Would be farcical if they ended up in a hotel for a total of 24 days before returning bang out of form.

Add in another week of fitness work and they would be just in time for the next set of qualifiers in october!

 

[spids]

Sounds like the Argentinian FA messed up the Entry paperwork for Brazil. And Brazil are pissed off they are missing all their European based players and Argentina are not. So they are using this as leverage to make sure the 4 players from the UK cannot play against them. They will either have to quarantine for 14 days in Brazil or get deported and fined - either way they will miss the Brazil game.

 

[sbrustad]

Either way, FIFA will surely have a say in this as Brazil can’t just make up rules as they see fit. Taking home advantage to a whole new level if you can ban the other teams biggest stars arbitrarily.

 

[spids]

Either way, FIFA will surely have a say in this as Brazil can’t just make up rules as they see fit. Taking home advantage to a whole new level if you can ban the other teams biggest stars arbitrarily.

They are not making up rules though are they? The Argentinians should have known that players from the UK could not play in Brazil without quarantining.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Sounds like the Argentinian FA messed up the Entry paperwork for Brazil. And Brazil are pissed off they are missing all their European based players and Argentina are not. So they are using this as leverage to make sure the 4 players from the UK cannot play against them. They will either have to quarantine for 14 days in Brazil or get deported and fined - either way they will miss the Brazil game.

So basically them wanting to go, has turned out to be a big waste of time, for club & country ? ?

 

[chrissivad]

Just bring them back now (via Croatia if need be)

 

[spids]

The WC qualifying is a joke in South America anyway. They have one big group for 10 countries (so they have to play 18 qualifiers, putting a massive strain on the Global football calendar, and the top 4 qualify automatically. The 5th place team has a play off with a pretty weak team from Asia or Australasia. So in reality South America always gets 5 qualifiers from 10 entrants - 50% participation at World Cup. There is a reason why Brazil and Argentina qualify for every world cup - it is much easier to qualify than it is in Europe

In Europe there are usually groups of 5 or 6 teams where only top team qualifies automatically.

They should split the South American countries into two groups of 5, with the top two teams in each group qualifying, and the best 3rd place team going into the intercontinental play off match.

Well, actually, they should only get 3 spots and not 5, but that is another argument.

 

[Saoirse]

The WC qualifying is a joke in South America anyway. They have one big group for 10 countries (so they have to play 18 qualifiers, putting a massive strain on the Global football calendar, and the top 4 qualify automatically. The 5th place team has a play off with a pretty weak team from Asia or Australasia. So in reality South America always gets 5 qualifiers from 10 entrants - 50% participation at World Cup. There is a reason why Brazil and Argentina qualify for every world cup - it is much easier to qualify than it is in Europe

In Europe there are usually groups of 5 or 6 teams where only top team qualifies automatically.

They should split the South American countries into two groups of 5, with the top two teams in each group qualifying, and the best 3rd place team going into the intercontinental play off match.

Well, actually, they should only get 3 spots and not 5, but that is another argument.

Sorry but very much disagree there given the quality of the nations involved. I wouldn't want two out of Uruguay/Chile/Colombia to miss out every time and nobody else to have a chance. I'd be more inclined to merge it with North American qualifying to get a larger pool of nations, or at least move the Central American sides to the South American system.

 

[spids]

Sorry but very much disagree there given the quality of the nations involved. I wouldn't want two out of Uruguay/Chile/Colombia to miss out every time and nobody else to have a chance. I'd be more inclined to merge it with North American qualifying to get a larger pool of nations, or at least move the Central American sides to the South American system.

Totally disagree. All I am saying is they should have 2 groups of 5 instead of 1 group of 10. And 8 WC qualifiers instead of 18. In line with European qualification.
The two groups would be picked using seeded buckets so the best teams should qualify most years. But it would be much fairer, but to the entire continent and also to teams in other continents.

In Europe, if England, Holland or Germany have. Bad qualification campaign they miss out. Should be the same for South American countries.

 

[Saoirse]

Totally disagree. All I am saying is they should have 2 groups of 5 instead of 1 group of 10. And 8 WC qualifiers instead of 18. In line with European qualification.
The two groups would be picked using seeded buckets so the best teams should qualify most years. But it would be much fairer, but to the entire continent and also to teams in other continents.

In Europe, if England, Holland or Germany have. Bad qualification campaign they miss out. Should be the same for South American countries.

You literally said they should only get three spots rather than five, which I put in bold. Which would effectively mean Brazil, Argentina and one other every time, with everyone else missing out. In Europe, a big country can go out if they have a very bad campaign, but that's completely different to big countries being guaranteed to go out every time. I don't have a problem with the groups-of-5 bit.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Romero and Lo Celso both start for Argentina tonight.

 

[panoma]

The police cancelling the game after 5 min to arrest Gio and Romero? Wtf is going on.

This is beyond farcical

 

[freeeki]

 

[panoma]

Hopefully Villa and Spurs just follow the dam PL protocol the next time. Imagine if they get actual arrested.