Fábio Coentrão

[gibbospurs]

Bit rich for someone having a pop at random people for no reason

Sorry Mill, i was pissed. love all you guys.

 

[LovingSpursSince...]

My opinion is we should keep Rose and let him grow in our club, hes only 22 and hes been playing quite well for Sunderland. Actually i think we should be focusing more on the attack then the defense at least for now.

Yeah, I've seen most reports throwing around a £15-16m figure.

But, the question then becomes, if you think he's a Leighton Baines type of LB that will create endless chances and still be good in defense, is it worth the extra money? In my opinion, yes. But is he a Leighton Baines type creator/defender? Tough to say.

Only 24, and we could realistically fund the move by selling the two LBs that are currently on our books (BAE/Rose).

 

[Donki]

actually its half and half

With curry sauce?? MMMMM Beaut! U English tossers will have no idea wot i mean lol.

 

[beats1]

My opinion is we should keep Rose and let him grow in our club, hes only 22 and hes been playing quite well for Sunderland. Actually i think we should be focusing more on the attack then the defense at least for now.

Also worth noting this is his first real season as a Lb

 

[Oshi]

With curry sauce?? MMMMM Beaut! U English tossers will have no idea wot i mean lol.

Rice and Chips with Curry? Ironically it was on Master Chef!!

 

[bceej]

If we are going to bring another player in I reckon we should go for Bastian Oczipka. Been part of a very successful, newly promoted, Eintracht Frankfurt side. Very aggressive and successful going forward, which I guess is the main draw of Coentrao, and Pereira. He will be much cheaper too. Personally think Danny Rose will get a run in the side.

 

[Mouse!]

If we are going to bring another player in I reckon we should go for Bastian Oczipka. Been part of a very successful, newly promoted, Eintracht Frankfurt side. Very aggressive and successful going forward, which I guess is the main draw of Coentrao, and Pereira. He will be much cheaper too. Personally think Danny Rose will get a run in the side.

Been bigging this guy up too. Has been near the top of the Bundesliga assists all season, playing at LB whole time. Reckon he's a future German international. As a not too expensive punt, he looks well worth the gamble.

EDIT: Just found this article - http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p...lve-spurs-left-back-problem.html#.UW0i9DBwb3s

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Rose has stated he doesn't want to come back and bench warm, fair point at this point in his career, he wants to play and improve.
Realistically, if we are aiming for a good run in Europe alongside domestic fixtures, that equates to a 50-60 game season, so even a player not deemed first XI, could still reasonably expect to see around 20 starts. Plus, with someone like Rose, he offers something coming forward, so even at LB he could be seen as an attacking sub. Right now, he'd probably do us a job at LW, has the pace to be a threat having been a winger until the last season or so.
My instinct still tells me if Ekotto goes, it'll be Perreira coming in though. Got history of being with AVB at Porto, and also AVB tried to sign him when he first went to Chelsea. Rumours are Inter and him are not entirely panning out as hoped for both parties.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Just my opinion but I'd rather stick with Rose than Perreira, he hasnt impressed me when I've seen him play for Inter, but I'll back AVB if he decides to make a move for him.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Just my opinion but I'd rather stick with Rose than Perreira, he hasnt impressed me when I've seen him play for Inter, but I'll back AVB if he decides to make a move for him.

Arguably, I probably haven't seen enough of him either. But this far, AVB doesn't seem to have had his way over any signing, and having seen him linked before, I'd like to see AVB start to mould the squad in his own vision.

 

[LovingSpursSince...]

Been bigging this guy up too. Has been near the top of the Bundesliga assists all season, playing at LB whole time. Reckon he's a future German international. As a not too expensive punt, he looks well worth the gamble.

EDIT: Just found this article - http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p...lve-spurs-left-back-problem.html#.UW0i9DBwb3s

This is our guy, we should get him and then focus on the striking position because that's a real problem too

 

[Snarfalicious]

Just my opinion but I'd rather stick with Rose than Perreira, he hasnt impressed me when I've seen him play for Inter, but I'll back AVB if he decides to make a move for him.

Tend to agree. I think Rose has plenty of ability to be molded. I was hoping that Paolo Di Canio would really play balls out and try to get him more into the attack, or at least as much as he was from the beginning of the season.

I'm not sure why Sunderland have sort of dumbed down his responsibilities lately (even before Di Canio was named manager). I'm guessing it has a lot to do with not having Fletcher, and goals against are far more important than they were earlier in their season given their struggles to pull them back now.

But even just as recently as January, he was far more apt to go forward with the ball on long runs and it really played to his strengths. But now it seems as though they are really forcing him to stay back and simply get the ball out of the back as quickly as possible.

It wasn't long ago that Martin O'Neill was talking about moving Rose to midfield given how well he was playing in attack. Unfortunately, Sunderland's poor form and presumably a lack of attack (not to mention a change in manager) has seen the responsibilities of Rose become defense-first rather than a quality blend of attack/defense.

Let's not forget that most of us thought he would struggle immensely in defense and that his attacking skillset would always be there given his history. But, it's sort of reversed, and I think when he gets back into a fluid side that has players switching off on runs interchangeably, that we could really see not only his true strengths, but also see him really flourish.

That being said, if we get some exorbitant fee offer for him, it'll be hard to turn it down. You could argue that Ben Davies already does what we would want out of a LB and he's only 19. If we can sell BAE and Rose and get Davies for a fraction of the price, I wouldn't argue too much. But part of me is truly intrigued by Rose's potential.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Another thing to add about Coentrao, that I haven't seen mentioned, is that he has deputised relatively well in central midfield on occasion. In fact, when he first joined Madrid, he actually played there more often than LB. Of course, it did seem like Mourinho was slightly shoe horning in the new signing, but he did a decent job.

He would be an upgrade to LB, I reckon he could also easily play LW ( Sigurdsson, Lennon, Coentrao, Bale on occasion and Townsend would be a very good set of people with different qualities all capable of playing out wide ) and he could do a job in a DM type position.

I think it would be £15m very well spent if it were to be possible, as he would improve our line up a lot. For all of BAE's twisty tricks and turns inside our own half, he is actually surprisingly distinctly lacking in attacking intent. Very seldomly runs at a man, and quite often lazily lofts in a tame cross. Coentrao would give us real purpose and drive down that flank, which would be even more helpful if we are playing a Sig type there.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Just an aside here, but if we added Coentrao to a transfer window including Heung-Min Son, Jordy Clasie, and a couple of all-out strikers (Benteke and Bony being my preference), we'd be setting our sights a lot higher than just Top 4.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

I've said on others threads, that is all we need now.
An upgrade at LB with Ekotto looking likely to leave.
An upgrade at CM to compete with and/or cover for Sandro/Dembele.
Added natural depth for the wing, alongside Townsend.
Genuine improvement upfront (x2). We dominate possession but cannot put the games to bed.

Anything more than that will mean too much upheaval and gelling required. Not teally needed anyway. 5 new players in, with roughly twice that allowed to leave (Gomes, Naughton?, Ekotto? Gallas, Parker/Livermore?, Huddlestone, Bentley, Dempsey, Falque?, Adebayor, Defoe?). Promote from within to make up the necessary depth, younger hungrier players, who judging on this season's U21 league (some on loan spells), are not short on talent either.
Archer, Smith, Fryers, Luongo, Parrett, Carroll, Ceballos, Mason, Pritchard, Kane, Couilbaily, Coulthirst etc. some promoted, some loaned out.

 

[Chris12]

I've said on others threads, that is all we need now.
An upgrade at LB with Ekotto looking likely to leave.
An upgrade at CM to compete with and/or cover for Sandro/Dembele.
Added natural depth for the wing, alongside Townsend.
Genuine improvement upfront (x2). We dominate possession but cannot put the games to bed.

Anything more than that will mean too much upheaval and gelling required. Not teally needed anyway. 5 new players in, with roughly twice that allowed to leave (Gomes, Naughton?, Ekotto? Gallas, Parker/Livermore?, Huddlestone, Bentley, Dempsey, Falque?, Adebayor, Defoe?). Promote from within to make up the necessary depth, younger hungrier players, who judging on this season's U21 league (some on loan spells), are not short on talent either.
Archer, Smith, Fryers, Luongo, Parrett, Carroll, Ceballos, Mason, Pritchard, Kane, Couilbaily, Coulthirst etc. some promoted, some loaned out.

Would be stupid to get rid of this guy

 

[GetSpurredOn]

I'll be honest, he has yet to do it for us, maybe through lack of opportunity, but I have not seen how his loan spell has gone.

 

[N17-77]

Why do so many people seem to think that these various players mentioned are an ungrade on BAE? He's a great left-back. Strange that he's been in and out the team recently, so maybe there's more than meets the eye. But I wouldn't swap him for many other leftbacks.

 

[Barry Mead]

Why do so many people seem to think that these various players mentioned are an ungrade on BAE? He's a great left-back. Strange that he's been in and out the team recently, so maybe there's more than meets the eye. But I wouldn't swap him for many other leftbacks.

Not for me, for me he's awful, he's been a weak link defensively for years, poor reading, poor positioning, poor tackling and unnecessary fouls that give away free kicks in dangerous areas, inability to use his right foot resulting in him doing little pirouettes to get the ball onto his left foot and dwelling on the ball too long in dangerous areas and getting closed down

Getting decent defensive full backs these days is not easy, most are better going forward but I think we can do a lot better than Benny and I think an upgrade is badly needed

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Why do so many people seem to think that these various players mentioned are an ungrade on BAE? He's a great left-back. Strange that he's been in and out the team recently, so maybe there's more than meets the eye. But I wouldn't swap him for many other leftbacks.

I dont think it's hate for BAE, as he's played a part in a successful time for the Club. I think it's more that most fans are accepting that AVB does'nt quite rate him as Harry did, evidence being how many starts he's made. I believe his contract is up next Summer, and I would think he'd want at least what he's getting paid now, maybe more. In short, we'd have to offer him a 2/3 year deal on 40k a week(estimated wage), and we simply cannot afford to use that much of our wage budget on some one that's probably not gonna play that much. So it makes sense both football wise and business wise to sell him now, or risk another Jenas situation (player on big money but not playing).