And we have a reputation for spending big...

[Mustard]

What? Where on earth did you get that idea from?

The training ground cost £45m, not including ongoing running costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Tottenhams-new-45million-training-base.html

Actually what I read was that it was the sales Huddleston and Caulker. I can't remember where.

And 45m?

Please.

 

[SteveH]

Lol. So funny to see the love for Levy on here. It's almost like some of you support him first then the football team.

Who was our last successful signing flash?

Most sensible base their views on facts. Levy is of little or no interest to me as a person, but I have seen very little factual information to make me blame for the problems we are currently encountering. His only fault is not being a billionaire like an Abramovic which lets be honest is the real problem with most of the wannabe big club supporters.

 

[Mustard]

What? Where on earth did you get that idea from?

The training ground cost £45m, not including ongoing running costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Tottenhams-new-45million-training-base.html

Oh look. Here's another from the fail. Except this time its 30m......errr


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nt-hinder-Harry-Redknapp-transfer-market.html



Both are wrong.

 

[Trees]

The training ground was built for less than the sale of Caulker.

These people running the club arn't doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

They are making big money and making bad decisions when it comes to managers and transfers. Scum and the like shop at waitrose whilst we go to the out of date section in Lidl.

I thought the cost was around £45m

 

[Bobbins]

We had a hundred million to spend and a new manager. But Levy knew best...

Maybe he plays that computer game you keep banging on about too?

He is revered by the simple minded as some sort of genius in the transfer market yet look at our squad. The bloke is clueless about football matters and hardly much better in the boardroom.

Why pay for all the land around Tottenham then try and get the Olympic site? Why start building work when you haven't got permission. His errors are usually down to greed not because he is some sort of risk expert.

When did this happen? I'm not aware of Spurs going to court for a serious breach of planning law by beginning construction prior to planning permission being granted...

 

[Flashspur]

Lol. So funny to see the love for Levy on here. It's almost like some of you support him first then the football team.

Who was our last successful signing flash?

Its not love of Levy....its history. I don't know how long you've been around for champ, but I've been supporting Spurs for over 50 years. I've seen us go from double winners, biggest spenders in the League at one time to being relegated, coming close to bankruptcy and years of mediocrity. The years of mediocrity had a lot to do with our poor financial position. In financial terms at one time, we were not far away from Arsenal and Manure financially. Chelsea was a little club in comparison. Now, I am not the risk averse type. I usually spend more than I make but I cant see a football club sustaining that credit card model for very long. And I've seen the likes of Leeds, Notts Forest, Portsmouth and others fall by the way side for the same reasons. Plus a football club is there for the long run and not 5 minutes blowing a weekly paycheck at the roulette wheel.

In terms of last successful player Mustard old chum, I think the jury is out on that. Probably Lloris but then Eriksen, Walker, Lamela may still surprise us all, including you. Whatever you say about ENIC and Levy, they have given this club financial stability in a period when financial stability has been a rare thing. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Bobbins]

Actually what I read was that it was the sales Huddleston and Caulker. I can't remember where.

And 45m?

Please.

Are you drunk? Have you gone mental?

You honestly think a 77-acre site in north London cost less than £13m (those sales combined)?

 

[SlunkSoma]

Form hat it s worth I think we spend a lot less than we are reported to spend as well.

 

[Mustard]

Its not love of Levy....its history. I don't know how long you've been around for champ, but I've been supporting Spurs for over 50 years. I've seen us go from double winners, biggest spenders in the League at one time to being relegated, coming close to bankruptcy and years of mediocrity. The years of mediocrity had a lot to do with our poor financial position. In financial terms at one time, we were not far away from Arsenal and Manure financially. Chelsea was a little club in comparison. Now, I am not the risk averse type. I usually spend more than I make but I cant see a football club sustaining that credit card model for very long. And I've seen the likes of Leeds, Notts Forest, Portsmouth and others fall by the way side for the same reasons. Plus a football club is there for the long run and not 5 minutes blowing a weekly paycheck at the roulette wheel.

In terms of last successful player Mustard old chum, I think the jury is out on that. Probably Lloris but then Eriksen, Walker, Lamela may still surprise us all, including you. Whatever you say about ENIC and Levy, they have given this club financial stability in a period when financial stability has been a rare thing. Nothing wrong with that.

I just think Levy doesn't have a plan and makes it up as he goes along. And that's not good enough for me.

Too Many false starts and bad decisions. Our capacity is the smallest it's ever been and game for game our season tickets are higher than arse.

I will give you Lloris and walker. It's too soon for the Eriks though I admit its easy to see they have class. So 2 successful signings in what 6 years of Levys strategy and were left with that. Not good enough. Too many bad decisions over good ones.

And I'm bored of seeing that little bald owl face peering over the west stand too.

 

[Mustard]

When did this happen? I'm not aware of Spurs going to court for a serious breach of planning law by beginning construction prior to planning permission being granted...

Lol. The fact is we don't building permission because another company is trading, quite legally, on where our new six yard box will be.

Get the permission then build. Not the other way round. Factor in the embarrassment of being outplayed by a dildo salesman over the Olympic site and you can see why I don't have much confidence in Teflon dans stadium strategy.

 

[Bobbins]

Lol. The fact is we don't building permission because another company is trading, quite legally, on where our new six yard box will be.

Get the permission then build. Not the other way round. Factor in the embarrassment of being outplayed by a dildo salesman over the Olympic site and you can see why I don't have much confidence in Teflon dans stadium strategy.

We have got planning permission. The CPO has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's a separate issue, that's why we're building elsewhere.

Again can you point out where Spurs are being prosecuted for breaching planning laws? Of course you can't, because they haven't.

Just because you don't understand any of this doesn't mean you're right about any of it either.

 

[Mustard]

We have got planning permission. The CPO has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's a separate issue, that's why we're building elsewhere.

Again can you point out where Spurs are being prosecuted for breaching planning laws? Of course you can't, because they haven't.

Just because you don't understand any of this doesn't mean you're right about any of it either.

You know what I mean Bobbins and I know you know what I mean.

If you wish to chalk one up for team bobbins and levy go right ahead. That makes it 12-11 by my notes.

But we all know we don't have permission to build the stadium today don't we.

 

[Bobbins]

You know what I mean Bobbins and I know you know what I mean.

If you wish to chalk one up for team bobbins and levy go right ahead. That makes it 12-11 by my notes.

But we all know we don't have permission to build the stadium today don't we.

Honestly, and I promise you I can't be more honest with you right now, I have no idea what you're talking about. I think you're suggesting that because the CPO is being appealed that we aren't allowed to bulldoze Archway?

That's completely different to suggesting that we don't have permission to start building, which is what you said.

Permission to START building is exactly what we have. That's why they've, er, started building. A huge construction like a stadium needs more work than just levelling off the ground and building some stands - entire sites around the area need to be bulldozed, cleared, dug up, ground cleaned, water and power works installed etc etc.

Just because Archway still exists doesn't mean we're not allowed to start work.

You must understand that. Surely.

And don't lump me in as 'Bobbins and Levy' - I've done nothing but rant and complain about him all week. You're just spouting untruths that need to be corrected.

 

[Mustard]

Honestly, and I promise you I can't be more honest with you right now, I have no idea what you're talking about. I think you're suggesting that because the CPO is being appealed that we aren't allowed to bulldoze Archway?

That's completely different to suggesting that we don't have permission to start building, which is what you said.

Permission to START building is exactly what we have. That's why they've, er, started building. A huge construction like a stadium needs more work than just levelling off the ground and building some stands - entire sites around the area need to be bulldozed, cleared, dug up, ground cleaned, water and power works installed etc etc.

Just because Archway still exists doesn't mean we're not allowed to start work.

You must understand that. Surely.

And don't lump me in as 'Bobbins and Levy' - I've done nothing but rant and complain about him all week. You're just spouting untruths that need to be corrected.

Ok. So you are saying to me we can build our stadium today? Levy has fixed everything and we can start, without any legal issues, start building our stadium in earnest. I'm not talking about erecting supermarkets or.....


Actually, fuck it. I know you know we can't.

12-12

 

[Flashspur]

Ok. So you are saying to me we can build our stadium today? Levy has fixed everything and we can start, without any legal issues, start building our stadium in earnest. I'm not talking about erecting supermarkets or.....


Actually, fuck it. I know you know we can't.

12-12

Dude I think you are pissed or on some of the stronger stuff...know what I mean

 

[dontcallme]

This is rubbish. Sorry, but it really is. If you spend more money, you get better players. You cannot expect to compete if your net spend is fuck all. As another poster said, if the manager wants Schneiderlin for 20mill, but you give him Stambouli for 5 mill, the boss aint getting the same quality. If mustachio costs 20mil, but Fazio costs 5mil, chances are Mustachio is a better player. Basically, we spend fuck-all, so we win win fuck-all

By that logic:

£1m Lennon was much worse than £15m Bentley
£14m Pav was an upgrade on £10.9m Berbatov.
Paulinho is one of our best ever players
£5m Bale had only slightly more potential than £4.5m Andy Reid

I could go on and on but judging purely by price tags is a word I'm going to refrain from using.

 

[knilly]

Why people look at net spend when if they looked a little to the left would see in that period we spent over £200 million pounds. We spent a fuck load of money, we are just good a recouping it.

It shows that this is the clubs business model. Why keep one player with an improved value, when you can sell him and buy 2-3 other players who look like the may well improve their value in a few seasons because they are on the fringes of international squads or have a year left on their contract.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

It shows that this is the clubs business model. Why keep one player with an improved value, when you can sell him and buy 2-3 other players who look like the may well improve their value in a few seasons because they are on the fringes of international squads or have a year left on their contract.

I am sure that selling players is used to generate some income but not sure you can base your business model on something that has no guarantees.

We all bemoan selling our best players but when you look at the ones we sold for big money like Bale, Berbatov, Modric and possible Carrick they all have one thing in common and that was they wanted to go to the clubs courting them, and we managed to at least get one more season out of Modric.

For me we don't wittingly sell our best players, it is just our best players are wanted by bigger clubs who can turn their heads and we have to accept our place in the food chain as shitty as it is.

 

[Bobbins]

Ok. So you are saying to me we can build our stadium today? Levy has fixed everything and we can start, without any legal issues, start building our stadium in earnest. I'm not talking about erecting supermarkets or.....


Actually, fuck it. I know you know we can't.

12-12

But we HAVE started, as I've already pointed out.

I've tried presenting you with some facts but your agenda isn't letting you see them or even acknowledge them, you're just obsessed with having an argument which doesn't even really exist.

I don't even understand what this 12-12 stuff is.

You've gone mental, but it's fine I can't be bothered to debate with someone who simply ignores facts they don't like.

 

[Mustard]

I'd already stopped the debate old boy.