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£20m+ Signings since 2019 - review of Big Six from The Athletic

only1waddle

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Richarlison should be a "jury's out". I don't think it's easy to classify every player. Bergwijn for instance is an example of a "miss" but realistically he was a Son backup and did well at times. Those two goals late at Leicester arguably were the difference between top 4 and not last season. Moura cannot be a miss because of Amsterdam, even if he has been poor for large spells.

The biggest eye opener for me though is how many +£40m signings we have made compared to the rest, not to mention the +£60 million ones. We are so severely outgunned in the transfer market, it's a joke.
I tend to look at our dealings on the whole from the CL window onwards.. the supposed rebuild, not including free transfers and loans we've had 20 permanent transfers, and i know this is subjective, but only 3 have really improved the first 11, with Hojbjerg being a decent squad player, jury out on some obviously as there are a few with potential, but 4/20 is a really poor return.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I always find it strange that Lo Celso escapes the wroth of our fans. He was a FAR worse buy than Royal IMO. His output for us was probably also worse than Ndombele's (who at least got some goals and assists).
Lo Celso had a good spell under Mourinho, after the restart during the COVID season.
Injuries either side of that, combined with Poch trying to persevere with want-away Eriksen instead of giving him a proper run at the start of the season, meant a lot of us saw promise and held out hope in a way that we didn't with Ndombele. Also, the work ethic was very different. Lo Celso got really stuck in when asked to play a deeper CM role that he ultimately wasn't suited to (at least not in the PL).

Ndombele did get my hopes up with his performances during that ludicrous fixture congestion at the start of the 2020-21 season. He almost single-handedly got us through those Europa qualifying games.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I tend to look at our dealings on the whole from the CL window onwards.. the supposed rebuild, not including free transfers and loans we've had 20 permanent transfers, and i know this is subjective, but only 3 have really improved the first 11, with Hojbjerg being a decent squad player, jury out on some obviously as there are a few with potential, but 4/20 is a really poor return.
Hojbjerg has been a regular starter - displacing lesser players from the team. I would guess he's played more minutes than anyone else in our squad since signing. How is that a "squad player"? Even if you don't think he's good enough for our aspirations, he has clearly improved our starting lineup.
 

only1waddle

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Hojbjerg has been a regular starter - displacing lesser players from the team. I would guess he's played more minutes than anyone else in our squad since signing. How is that a "squad player"? Even if you don't think he's good enough for our aspirations, he has clearly improved our starting lineup.

Yep, I have included him in the 4/20 and probably should have included him in the improved category.
 

yido_number1

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Hojbjerg has been a regular starter - displacing lesser players from the team. I would guess he's played more minutes than anyone else in our squad since signing. How is that a "squad player"? Even if you don't think he's good enough for our aspirations, he has clearly improved our starting lineup.
Hojbjerg has definitely not improved the starting line up he's destroyed it.
 

Whazam

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Hojbjerg has definitely not improved the starting line up he's destroyed it.
Digging up a several months old thread just to give yourself yet another opportunity to insult a particular player doesn't seem like the healthiest way of supporting your club.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Hojbjerg has definitely not improved the starting line up he's destroyed it.
Our last three permanent managers chose him over Winks / Ndombele / Lo Celso / Sissoko because he consistently performs better than any of them, so yes, he has improved our starting line-up. What destroyed our team was not adequately replacing any of Dembele, Wanyama or Eriksen...but that ship had sailed long before Hojbjerg arrived.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Our last three permanent managers chose him over Winks / Ndombele / Lo Celso / Sissoko because he consistently performs better than any of them, so yes, he has improved our starting line-up. What destroyed our team was not adequately replacing any of Dembele, Wanyama or Eriksen...but that ship had sailed long before Hojbjerg arrived.
……true, but you get his drift
 

yido_number1

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Digging up a several months old thread just to give yourself yet another opportunity to insult a particular player doesn't seem like the healthiest way of supporting your club.
It was in the feed at the bottom as unread I didn't realise it was several months old when I posted.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I'd argue Sissoko was better.
Sissoko quite possibly was better in his prime, but was not better at the age of 32 (his age when he was sold on in 2021).
At least when he ran with the ball he went forwards instead of this turgid backwards and sideways bullshit.
Yet Hojbjerg produces more goals and assists than Sissoko. Hojbjerg has 12 goals & assists so far this season, which is not bad for "turgid backwards and sideways bullshit". Sissoko managed only 4 goals & assists in his most prolific season for us, and only 21 in total (which took 5 years to tally up!).

EDIT:
FYI - I actually rated Sissoko more highly than most, but for the defensive side of his game.
 
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