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Darth Vega

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We may spend a lot of money but its due to the big fees we receive from selling our top players. Really, you should spend to add to the top players you already have to your squad. We didn't do that well enough when we had Bale, Modric and Van der Vaart. We added a few players here and there, mainly cheap buys, and spent big after we sold them. I think January of the 08/09 season when we bought back Keane, Defoe and added Palacios for a combined 40-45M was the only time I can remember us spending massively without selling a lot of squad players or a big name for big money.
 

eViL

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Yeah lets get some owners that £40m overspend every season.

How fricken AWESOME would that be???

Balancing the books is for PUSSIES.
 

cliff jones

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It's not a true reflection though. An example: We spent £100m last year. Yes, we received more than that from the sale of two players, but how much more do people want us to spend? It's not the amount we spend, we are relatively big spenders, and have been on big spending splurges more than once over the past 10 years. It's how we spend that money that's the problem.

Main point agree, so many bad calls, but spend a lot relative to who? Oh, villa and Sunderland. You can't simply discount the value of all those who've walked out the door, we've lost some incredible players.
 

cliff jones

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Yeah lets get some owners that £40m overspend every season.

How fricken AWESOME would that be???

Balancing the books is for PUSSIES.

Interesting choice of last word after last week. Ultimately it's our money they're spending, or rather not spending, not their own. Is the tv money, for example, going towards the stadium, which ultimately fattens the club up so they can sell at incredible profit? Or being used to buy mm and or ms?
 

SteveH

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And we have had a reputation for spending big...in 1980

With the new stadium in the mix we are up and around the level of West Ham, could be lower IMHO.
 

brasil_spur

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Since 2008, we have been Europe's eighth biggest spending club. We have spent over €380m. According to CIES.

And since 2008 we've had a net spend of £5.6m, which this summer would have bought you Iago Falque and £600k change.
 

brasil_spur

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Yeah lets get some owners that £40m overspend every season.

How fricken AWESOME would that be???

Balancing the books is for PUSSIES.

Oh dear....

That's a bit of an over-reaction really isn't it.

No team can expect to sustain a challenge on the top 4, let alone have aspirations above that, with a net spend of -£14m since Harry's first season in charge. The fact we spent as much as we did in Harry's first season was down to the fact that we sold our most effective striker pairing in over 10 years in the summer and tried to replace them with big money signings and then had to throw a tonne of money into the January transfer window to stave off relegation.

We can balance the books all day long, but that's not what we are doing, we are currently turning THFC into a rather profitable business and unfortunately most prem clubs don't operate that way. I don't agree with it necessarily, but if we want to see our club compete then the reality is we need to make a loss on earnings most seasons, or hurry up and build the stadium.
 

dontcallme

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Never really interested in net spend.

I'd rather we bought an 18 year old Lennon for £1m than £15m on Bentley. Buying Berba for £10.9m was better than £14m on Pav or potential £17m on Bent.

Selling players for a profit is a good thing. I'd rather buy a player for £4m get 2 good seasons out of him and resell for £10m than buy one for £4m and make a loss.

I'm concerned about our managerial hiring policy, not that I'm against Poch, and feel sometimes we buy unnecessarily.

But our net spend isn't even close to a concern of mine.
 

eViL

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Oh dear....

That's a bit of an over-reaction really isn't it.

No team can expect to sustain a challenge on the top 4, let alone have aspirations above that, with a net spend of -£14m since Harry's first season in charge. The fact we spent as much as we did in Harry's first season was down to the fact that we sold our most effective striker pairing in over 10 years in the summer and tried to replace them with big money signings and then had to throw a tonne of money into the January transfer window to stave off relegation.

We can balance the books all day long, but that's not what we are doing, we are currently turning THFC into a rather profitable business and unfortunately most prem clubs don't operate that way. I don't agree with it necessarily, but if we want to see our club compete then the reality is we need to make a loss on earnings most seasons, or hurry up and build the stadium.

As transfers are our biggest source of income, where do you think a lot of the money for the Training ground and Stadium is coming from? The rent we get from Sainsbury's?

Does the new training centre make money? No, it's a COST. Not just to build, but to run, to staff. And that's just one example of the things that our 'fans' don't think about.

And do you know why? Because Football Manager, that's why. But we're all experts now we've played the game.
 

cornelius knob

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It's not a true reflection though. An example: We spent £100m last year. Yes, we received more than that from the sale of two players, but how much more do people want us to spend? It's not the amount we spend, we are relatively big spenders, and have been on big spending splurges more than once over the past 10 years. It's how we spend that money that's the problem.
This is rubbish. Sorry, but it really is. If you spend more money, you get better players. You cannot expect to compete if your net spend is fuck all. As another poster said, if the manager wants Schneiderlin for 20mill, but you give him Stambouli for 5 mill, the boss aint getting the same quality. If mustachio costs 20mil, but Fazio costs 5mil, chances are Mustachio is a better player. Basically, we spend fuck-all, so we win win fuck-all
 

Mustard

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As transfers are our biggest source of income, where do you think a lot of the money for the Training ground and Stadium is coming from? The rent we get from Sainsbury's?

Does the new training centre make money? No, it's a COST. Not just to build, but to run, to staff. And that's just one example of the things that our 'fans' don't think about.

And do you know why? Because Football Manager, that's why. But we're all experts now we've played the game.


The training ground was built for less than the sale of Caulker.

These people running the club arn't doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

They are making big money and making bad decisions when it comes to managers and transfers. Scum and the like shop at waitrose whilst we go to the out of date section in Lidl.
 

eViL

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The training ground was built for less than the sale of Caulker.

These people running the club arn't doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

They are making big money and making bad decisions when it comes to managers and transfers. Scum and the like shop at waitrose whilst we go to the out of date section in Lidl.

Which means the Caulker money couldn't be spent on players - and then there's the on going cost of running the thing.

Do you know anyone that works for free?
 

Bus-Conductor

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We are outperforming if football terms, over that five years, every team above us in that table, plus Liverpool in 4th.

Doesn't that suggest that our board are doing something incredibly right ?


And that table makes absolutely no provision for wages, which is a far more indicative pointer to success.
 

Mustard

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Which means the Caulker money couldn't be spent on players - and then there's the on going cost of running the thing.

Do you know anyone that works for free?


All those volunteers for the Olympics worked for a shell suit and a pair of Addidas trainers..but I digress.

Those running costs are easily met by the TV money, sponsorship, merchandise, gate reciepts etc.

We have made money in the last, is it now 6 transfer windows? And continue to not buy players the incumbent manager wants. There is no clear strategy and that runs through everything Levy touches from the stadium to the manager to transfer policy.

It's all reactionary.
 

parklane1

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As transfers are our biggest source of income, where do you think a lot of the money for the Training ground and Stadium is coming from? The rent we get from Sainsbury's?

Does the new training centre make money? No, it's a COST. Not just to build, but to run, to staff. And that's just one example of the things that our 'fans' don't think about.

And do you know why? Because Football Manager, that's why. But we're all experts now we've played the game.

I have said it before and i will keep saying, one of the biggest problems with some fans in todays game is they believe that football in the real world is as easy as playing puter games.
 

eViL

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All those volunteers for the Olympics worked for a shell suit and a pair of Addidas trainers..but I digress.

Those running costs are easily met by the TV money, sponsorship, merchandise, gate reciepts etc.

We have made money in the last, is it now 6 transfer windows? And continue to not buy players the incumbent manager wants. There is no clear strategy and that runs through everything Levy touches from the stadium to the manager to transfer policy.

It's all reactionary.

IF the money isn't there, Levy won't do it. And it isn't, and until the Stadium is built, it won't be.

There needs to be a balance between maintaining Prem status and getting the stadium built. Levy's spinning the plates and making unpopular decisions to do what's right.
 

Flashspur

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This is rubbish. Sorry, but it really is. If you spend more money, you get better players. You cannot expect to compete if your net spend is fuck all. As another poster said, if the manager wants Schneiderlin for 20mill, but you give him Stambouli for 5 mill, the boss aint getting the same quality. If mustachio costs 20mil, but Fazio costs 5mil, chances are Mustachio is a better player. Basically, we spend fuck-all, so we win win fuck-all

you must still live at home with your Mum...do you pay your own bills? Do any budgeting? Save for a rainy day? Or do you just max out your credit card?
 

Mustard

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IF the money isn't there, Levy won't do it. And it isn't, and until the Stadium is built, it won't be.

There needs to be a balance between maintaining Prem status and getting the stadium built. Levy's spinning the plates and making unpopular decisions to do what's right.


We had a hundred million to spend and a new manager. But Levy knew best...

Maybe he plays that computer game you keep banging on about too?

He is revered by the simple minded as some sort of genius in the transfer market yet look at our squad. The bloke is clueless about football matters and hardly much better in the boardroom.

Why pay for all the land around Tottenham then try and get the Olympic site? Why start building work when you haven't got permission. His errors are usually down to greed not because he is some sort of risk expert.
 

Mustard

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you must still live at home with your Mum...do you pay your own bills? Do any budgeting? Save for a rainy day? Or do you just max out your credit card?


Lol. So funny to see the love for Levy on here. It's almost like some of you support him first then the football team.

Who was our last successful signing flash?
 

Bobbins

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The training ground was built for less than the sale of Caulker.

These people running the club arn't doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

They are making big money and making bad decisions when it comes to managers and transfers. Scum and the like shop at waitrose whilst we go to the out of date section in Lidl.

What? Where on earth did you get that idea from?

The training ground cost £45m, not including ongoing running costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Tottenhams-new-45million-training-base.html
 
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