Re: trixs 2nd post. If Levy doesn't push the boat out for Jose will he ever? Pivotal few weeks ahead.
Very small % of fans on the forums. If this was a PR exercise the tabloids would have been on this by now.
Forgetting Bale because that's a different kettle of fish....
If Jose doesn't get what he wants this window I'm done with Levy. I don't post spin(my info doesn't come from a place spin would exist) but I do omit some stuff as I feel at times it's counter productive.
Jose unlike Poch has given a decent list of players he wants and needs. None of them should be out of our range money wise, so there can imo be no excuses for not getting him at least his minimum requirements.
If he doesn't get at least that it's open season as far as I'm concerned.
Issue is, unless he gives Jose the tools to prove one way or another what he’s capable of, it’s not ab even platform. I personally think that despite yesterday’s atrocity, we do have enough in all other areas of the pitch to have a good season with even a slightly passed it Jose, but only if we are able to field a centre forward constantly. That means that signing someone good enough for our line up so we don’t have to get Harry crocked again is far more key than simply as reserve striker’ and even with all he goodwill I have for Levy (as like you i was reared on the 90s) I think it’ll be shoddy from him if this long-standing issue is not addressed.It's like no-one ever watched Spurs in the late 90s and early 2000s. That's why people defend him.
But not for this thread, eh.
As @King of Otters said, I wonder whether he is actually worried about Jose being a busted flush. Like finally dating that hot girl you've been after for ages, only for her to turn out to be just plain crazy and not in any way a sexual deviant.
Point 5 - need for creative midfielder should have the highest priority after yesterdayThanks for sharing Trix and some strong statements from you considering you're usually so well balanced, so seems like an extremely key next 3 weeks for us (we say that every tw but this really is huge I think fans patcience is wearing extremely thin now)
The AON documentary has confirmed everything I thought about Spurs behind the scenes tbh, the football set-up of the club is just so so poor and it makes me even more think that Levy just got so lucky with Poch.
I don't question your or any other ITK's but its just incredible the amount of times we hear that we are perusing an exciting deal and then Levy messes it up its just so frustrating.
Really interesting comment about Jose's list of players being reasonable to get for a few reasons. 1) when Jose came in he said he didn't need new players but to me that seemed like he was just saying the right thing to get the players on board. 2) we as fans can clearly see the issues with the squad at the start of the window were :
1.CB to replace Jan
2.RB to upgrade on Aurier -> Doherty
3.LB to upgrade on Davies
4.DM as we had no-one in that position -> PEH
5.Creative CM : because Ndombele can't be relied upon and we sold Eriksen
6.upgrade AM/winger : because its clear that Lucas and Lamela are no where near good enough
7/8.ST : obviously just having Kane is negligence, we need at least 1 more mabye even ideally 2
The reason I list this is because of your highlighted statement.
So far we have addressed 2 out of 7/8 big weaknesses in the squad (Joe Hart is a fine signing for homegrown and experience but doesn't effect much). Now sure people will say that oh you can't sign 7/8 players in one window and not with Covid and its too many to integrate blah blah blah, the fact is we went 2 transfer windows without signing anyone so we've been playing catch-up for a long time and the squad got so so stale, and while we've gone backwards many others above and behind us have gone forwards/improved so we really do need to sign a lot of quality players to get anywhere near where we need to be.
The point is it will be interesting come 5th October to see how many other additions we've made and how many Jose actually wanted in hindsight as if we can see these issues as fans i'm sure that one of the most successful managers in football history can easily see them in which case the end of the window will be extremely telling if Jose has for example said look I need 6 players, here are the names, none will cost you the earth and if you move on 3-4 fringe players the net spend will be negligible anyway which is kind of what i'm guessing is the case given the ITK that Jose's suggestions have been more than reasonable and in budget/easily attainable. It seems like he's not doing a Poch and saying its £70m on Frankie De Jong or nothing, actually quite the opposite that the sum of its parts are the key. FWIW Doherty and PEH for me have been very good signings but its no where near enough, absolute minimum required in the remainder of the window should really be: 1) ST 2) AM 3/4) LB & CB (similar priority level) then we have to hope and pray Ndombele can step up to where we need a bloody £50m signing to be and that Lo Celso can stay fit otherwise we'd need to also move on Ndombele and replace him with a creative CM, those are the issues and it really will be interesting come Oct 5th to see what we've done compared to what Jose wanted as I'm not a fan of how Jose plays but if he's given a list of easily obtainable targets he wants to suit the way he wants us to play and Levy only delivers on say 50% of that then that is just yet again utter negligence of the highest order rinse and repeat.
We all know how this ends don't we...
I think we’re all in this boat. Thankfully, as it stands neither you nor other itks have suggested that this will transpire so unless something has massively changed, I think we’ll get that striker. My bad mood from yesterday (I’ve apologised to my neighbour for some of the profanity her dad heard from my house as they were eating dinner in her garden) isn’t going to suddenly make me pessimistic about our chances of getting that striker until you or one of the others poo poos it. Bale, beautiful thought that’d be, was only ever going to be a bonus.
Issue is, unless he gives Jose the tools to prove one way or another what he’s capable of, it’s not ab even platform. I personally think that despite yesterday’s atrocity, we do have enough in all other areas of the pitch to have a good season with even a slightly passed it Jose, but only if we are able to field a centre forward constantly. That means that signing someone good enough for our line up so we don’t have to get Harry crocked again is far more key than simply as reserve striker’ and even with all he goodwill I have for Levy (as like you i was reared on the 90s) I think it’ll be shoddy from him if this long-standing issue is not addressed.
I think we all should just remain a bit calm for a sec. We can all lose our rag at the end of the window should it be reasonable to do so.
The information isn't that deals are dead. The very opposite. In fact, you're all told there are five potential strikers - yet you, dear reader, latch on to the one you like the least and decide that one's going to happen. Is that the ITK's fault? Is that Jose's fault? Neither, it's your fault, dear reader.
You're also told that we're in a closer than we've ever been on a Bale Return (save when he was actually playing for us). Tell me again why you thought that deal would be easy. Each ITK has said "I don't think it will happen", but yet at each stage more information comes out that it's actually moving along - all the while claiming that they don't believe it will.
We lost yesterday = negative mood, and negative spin and assumption that a worse possible case scenario is the one that will definitely come true. That scenario only occurs for me if nothing happens - which would be unforgivable from Levy and the transfer committee.
So please can we be calm cherubs. Or Archie will banstick you in the face and bum. Not necessarily in that order.
Why let logic and facts get in the way of a good meltdown eh?I think we all should just remain a bit calm for a sec. We can all lose our rag at the end of the window should it be reasonable to do so.
The information isn't that deals are dead. The very opposite. In fact, you're all told there are five potential strikers - yet you, dear reader, latch on to the one you like the least and decide that one's going to happen. Is that the ITK's fault? Is that Jose's fault? Neither, it's your fault, dear reader.
You're also told that we're in a closer than we've ever been on a Bale Return (save when he was actually playing for us). Tell me again why you thought that deal would be easy. Each ITK has said "I don't think it will happen", but yet at each stage more information comes out that it's actually moving along - all the while claiming that they don't believe it will.
We lost yesterday = negative mood, and negative spin and assumption that a worse possible case scenario is the one that will definitely come true. That scenario only occurs for me if nothing happens - which would be unforgivable from Levy and the transfer committee.
So please can we be calm cherubs. Or Archie will banstick you in the face and bum. Not necessarily in that order.
I think we all should just remain a bit calm for a sec. We can all lose our rag at the end of the window should it be reasonable to do so.
The information isn't that deals are dead. The very opposite. In fact, you're all told there are five potential strikers - yet you, dear reader, latch on to the one you like the least and decide that one's going to happen. Is that the ITK's fault? Is that Jose's fault? Neither, it's your fault, dear reader.
You're also told that we're in a closer than we've ever been on a Bale Return (save when he was actually playing for us). Tell me again why you thought that deal would be easy. Each ITK has said "I don't think it will happen", but yet at each stage more information comes out that it's actually moving along - all the while claiming that they don't believe it will.
We lost yesterday = negative mood, and negative spin and assumption that a worse possible case scenario is the one that will definitely come true. That scenario only occurs for me if nothing happens - which would be unforgivable from Levy and the transfer committee.
So please can we be calm cherubs. Or Archie will banstick you in the face and bum. Not necessarily in that order.
I agree with everything you're saying, but on the Bale point, isn't the reason that all the ITK's claimed they didn't think it would happen was because of their opinion on how Levy operates as opposed to the other 2 parties. So the frustration coincides with the ITK's belief. At a certain point he is his own worst enemy when he himself becomes the difficult part of the deal.
I think we all should just remain a bit calm for a sec. We can all lose our rag at the end of the window should it be reasonable to do so.
The information isn't that deals are dead. The very opposite. In fact, you're all told there are five potential strikers - yet you, dear reader, latch on to the one you like the least and decide that one's going to happen. Is that the ITK's fault? Is that Jose's fault? Neither, it's your fault, dear reader.
You're also told that we're in a closer than we've ever been on a Bale Return (save when he was actually playing for us). Tell me again why you thought that deal would be easy. Each ITK has said "I don't think it will happen", but yet at each stage more information comes out that it's actually moving along - all the while claiming that they don't believe it will.
We lost yesterday = negative mood, and negative spin and assumption that a worse possible case scenario is the one that will definitely come true. That scenario only occurs for me if nothing happens - which would be unforgivable from Levy and the transfer committee.
So please can we be calm cherubs. Or Archie will banstick you in the face and bum. Not necessarily in that order.
What a depressing morning. Feel like the weight of a loss in that fashion yesterday opened up the cracks in our squad's foundation for all to see. I suspect Levy is feeling a lot of pressure now, and we all know what he has done under pressure in the past.
IMO if a striker (even if it is Sorloth the average) doesn't come in by next week we are going to be looking at a worse start to the season than Poch had last year. Something must change even if just for the optics.