The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - RETRO Edition 14th September 2020

[Matthew]

I'm not sure he's backing off, from my understanding of Levy and the way he operates, he's always trying to squeeze that little bit more out of a deal. So much so that often times, one or more of the parties involved just give up and walk away in exasperation.

well which ever way he's played it, it looks as if he has still managed to cock it up by being his usual way. im not overly fussed i must say about bale. its just frustrating.

 

[RobjDerby]

I'm not sure he's backing off, from my understanding of Levy and the way he operates, he's always trying to squeeze that little bit more out of a deal. So much so that often times, one or more of the parties involved just give up and walk away in exasperation.

100%, that's been confirmed on here and publicly by other chairmen in the past. So much so that some don't do business with him\us.

 

[yankspurs]

Ahh damn we all know how this ends now.

The whole club badly needs a signing like this.

Thanks for the info Trix!

The club needs a takeover for ambition to be shown. Its one excuse after another with Levy.

 

[KirstyG]

After yesterday’s performance Levy must be able to see we need an X factor added to the team which someone like Bale would represent

And the thing is the players are probably aware of this sh!t so it has a knock on effect to their performances.

 

[nedley]

It's like no-one ever watched Spurs in the late 90s and early 2000s. That's why people defend him.

But not for this thread, eh.

As @King of Otters said, I wonder whether he is actually worried about Jose being a busted flush. Like finally dating that hot girl you've been after for ages, only for her to turn out to be just plain crazy and not in any way a sexual deviant.

I agree. I don't hate Levy. I don’t want him out of the club even.

He should be admired.

But he has faults. Obvious ones. Those faults do get defended. How's he getting on with selling Rose?

As you said. Not for this thread.

 

[Mr Pink]

I don't really think it matters who we sign, who the manager is, there's something intrinsically wrong with our internal set up and its Levy who's responsible for that set up.

You can understand why Poch got so frustrated despite taking us to a CL final. He'll of signed his non disclosure shit but guaranteed it was Levy's OTT involvement in transfers and trying to squeeze value deals to the limit that pissed him off. Even if his targets were unrealistic I find it hard to believe we couldn't of done better by him considering the level he got us to.

When that takes priority over what the manager wants in terms of executing his vision, it's no surprise problems start to materialise.

I just think Levy loves this tough negotiator label and he can't help himself.

He'd try for Bale if there's value to be had even if Mourinho didn't want him (not saying he doesn't)

But that mindset encapsulates the problem perfectly imo.

 

[mark87]

Mourinho has been there done that, Levy has not. If nothing changes with Levy and pisses off Mourinho then Daniel can blame nobody but himself, he will be fully responsible. You don't want a pissed off Jose.

 

[We'llWinThePrem]

Oh dear, oh dear...

 

[nedley]

It's like no-one ever watched Spurs in the late 90s and early 2000s. That's why people defend him.

But not for this thread, eh.

As @King of Otters said, I wonder whether he is actually worried about Jose being a busted flush. Like finally dating that hot girl you've been after for ages, only for her to turn out to be just plain crazy and not in any way a sexual deviant.

Again. He hired him. Live and die and all that.

 

[George94]

Re Bale.

From someone super close....

Two parties making big strides. One making very small steps indeed.

He really is typecast as far as this one is concerned.

The frustration is building and it won't be long before RM and GB are looking seriously at alternative destinations.

We’re trying to sign Madrid’s player, yet they’re more interested in making the deal happen than us - we know how this ends.

 

[leemason2302]

Aannnd its that time of the window again. ITK starts off very positive then suddenly goes a bit negative and then we all know how it turns out from there.

I've seen this movie before

I've seen the 10 sequels

 

[stonebrow]

We’re trying to sign Madrid’s player, yet they’re more interested in making the deal happen than us - we know how this ends.

Their interest is probably why he is being difficult! Knowing they want to sell and are more desperate than ever, he'll push to far and itll backfire as usual!

 

[Spurs 1961]

Again. He hired him. Live and die and all that.

If, as we understand, DL wanted JM a long time ago then it wouldn't surprise me if he got rid of Poch to fulfill his ambition. I remember all too well someone highly connected with the club telling me how long Levy tried to get him into the club before it actually happened. His 'to do' list is not the same as managers let alone fans. Let's hope getting Bale back is on his list

 

[felmani26]

Disconcerting news from Trix and i'm talking specifically the second post.

One thing, is Steve Hitchin and Trevor Birch heavily involved with securing Bale as opposed to merely negotiating with Levy alone?

There's one thing not securing Bale which will have massive financial ramifications but to not secure other Jose targets who are seemingly attainable well then expect shit to hit the proverbial fan from all concerned!

 

[Guntz]

We need to get someone in who can lift the club a bit. Everything is just so flat and uninspiring both on the pitch and off it. Arsenal lost to Villa at home on the first day of the season back in 2013, and then signed Ozil a week or so after and it gave everyone a lift.

Apart from Bale, everyone else that we're seemingly linked with is a bit underwhelming imo. That's why if there's any chance we can get Bale back, we need to do it.

 

[spurnut]

Because we didn't spend shit in two windows previous?

Someone hasn't seen amazon doc it seems

 

[theslowcentury]

In many ways, the moneyball model of assessing potential and value is admirable and can be exciting. I don't want to write off Sorloth (or any of the other names that get mentioned as serious options) because the level of data-driven scouting should mean they all should add to the team over the season as a whole. However, if you're a fan of the film you'll know that Moneyball ends with the Red Sox using the same model but throwing more cash at it which secures greater levels of success. Big lessons there for us and you could definitely argue that Liverpool's model proves it over here. As I said in the Bale thread, it would be great for us to win a deal for once. It almost has a greater meaning now beyond just signing players. We all deserve a bit of hope. Thanks to the ITK for their info this window.

 

[Marantz]

Because we didn't spend shit in two windows previous?

That is true. Last summer you could say we where in the same position as Chelsea are now.

 

[DiVaio]

We’re trying to sign Madrid’s player, yet they’re more interested in making the deal happen than us - we know how this ends.

Of course they are more interested than us as they want to get rid of him.

Trix, JJ and Tottenhamboys all said its very unlikely but still we had meltdown here

 

[McArchibald]

That is true. Last summer you could say we where in the same position as Chelsea are now.

Chelsea had a pool of 25-odd young, talented players they could fall back on. A result of years of planned investment and squad management. Levy on the other hand just completely abandoned the first team squad and his best manager ever to its fate, while he poured all our cash into his property development schemes.

We are in a much worse position than Chelsea ever were sadly...