danielneeds
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To be fair Kane’s playing like a 35-year-old nearing retirement at the moment, so he’s hardly a help apart from heading away corners.
Jose Mourinho
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Spurrific
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The point isn’t that the manager is the issue, the point is that this manager does not instil any confidence in his ability to turn it around.
wirE
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Not a single shot on goal yesterday. The display yesterday speaks for itselves; it’s not Josè’s fault that none of the players are able to produce a single shot or create a chance. Keeps falling over when a run is attempted.
We’ve been in the bin since March/April last year. Blame Josè all you want but the fact is; The squad are in a dire need of change. We rely on players like Kane, Alli and Son every time, it’s time we find replacements...
We’ve been in the bin since March/April last year. Blame Josè all you want but the fact is; The squad are in a dire need of change. We rely on players like Kane, Alli and Son every time, it’s time we find replacements...
Lighty64
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We have no chance with anyone not sure exactly your going on about.
I can't be bothered to go find your arguments in the Poch thread on "how Mourinho would help win trophies"
DiVaio
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Last season only United academy graduates played more minutes in PL than ours. Also we are benefiting more from Kane/Winks/Skipp/Tanganga than City from Foden and Garcia, LFC from TAA,Jones and Williams, West Ham from Rice and Noble and Southampton from JWP and Stephens.
dtxspurs
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Lo Celso had 9 goals and 5 assists last year in La Liga (first season in the league in a much worse team), he only has 1 right now and that assist came of Michael Keanes chest. The replacements aren't even attacking well under these tactics.
EastLondonYid
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JM and Levy more so , are kind of lucky we are in lockdown....the stadium would have been toxic by now watching this dross.
Timberwolf
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Is our current form Mourinho's fault or the players? Boring answer but I think our problem is a combination of the two.
Those who think Mourinho isn't to blame at all must be blind. We've played some of the most bland, risk averse, turgid football in living memory over recent months. If managers like Chris Wilder, Hasenhuttl and Potter can get teams with 1/3 of our collective talent playing some progressive, eye-catching stuff, the very least we should expect from a manager of Mourinho's pedigree is coherent movement and a credible goalthreat against the worst teams in the league. He's had enough time and has enough talent available to do MUCH better than he has done, and fully deserves a big chunk of the blame.
But on the other hand, it's clear our squad has problems. We're weak in defensive midfield and at fullback, our confidence is low, and aside from a few players, the technical ability is surprisingly poor at times for a team that claims to be a one of the 'big 6'. The players should be doing better.
Ultimately, though, I think a manager more suited to the project, while they may have not got a huge amount more points than Mourinho, would at least have far more positive signs and green shoots of hope for the future. If anything, at the moment, we're getting worse week by week.
We need to back Mourinho this summer and support him, but personally I think the writing is on the wall and he's done at this level, except at clubs that can buy him the league.
Those who think Mourinho isn't to blame at all must be blind. We've played some of the most bland, risk averse, turgid football in living memory over recent months. If managers like Chris Wilder, Hasenhuttl and Potter can get teams with 1/3 of our collective talent playing some progressive, eye-catching stuff, the very least we should expect from a manager of Mourinho's pedigree is coherent movement and a credible goalthreat against the worst teams in the league. He's had enough time and has enough talent available to do MUCH better than he has done, and fully deserves a big chunk of the blame.
But on the other hand, it's clear our squad has problems. We're weak in defensive midfield and at fullback, our confidence is low, and aside from a few players, the technical ability is surprisingly poor at times for a team that claims to be a one of the 'big 6'. The players should be doing better.
Ultimately, though, I think a manager more suited to the project, while they may have not got a huge amount more points than Mourinho, would at least have far more positive signs and green shoots of hope for the future. If anything, at the moment, we're getting worse week by week.
We need to back Mourinho this summer and support him, but personally I think the writing is on the wall and he's done at this level, except at clubs that can buy him the league.
danielneeds
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Lo Celso did play as a false 9 or behind the striker in a team with a well-defined pattern of of play.
dtxspurs
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Isn't it the managers job to put his players in the best position to succeed? If we don't have a well-defined pattern of play than who's fault is that?
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We all know why Poch in the end had given up and essentially gone rouge. He had worked his magic on a whole heap of class B and C players enough in the end.
The damning part of watching us under José is that there's literally nothing, anywhere. It's like the entire club and squad has gone bland. We offer absolutely nada going forward, so we can't even begin to determine where change or upgrades are needed - we're at the stage of people just concluding that we need to bin the entire squad off, whilst under managers like Poch and Klopp, it only took a few months to see exactly which positions were in need of upgrades, but only because they actually started playing football with clear intentions derived from the managers style of play. Poch and Klopp started implementing their ideas and structures and it was clear for even the layman in the sofa to see where upgrades were needed. Same with Guardiola when he came in and everybody could see their fullbacks were dog shit for his system. Said and done, 4 new fullbacks.
We're not even close to present anything resembling football. We're like a footballing black hole - that game could have gone on for another 6 hours yesterday and we still wouldn't have been close to getting a shot on goal, and this in the end lands on the manager, especially now that he's been more than a few months in charge.
WannaDanceWithUdogie
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What hahaha surely not? I havent seen anything on twitter
Metalhead
But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Did it say: “bring your felt tip pens to draw a banner for an aeroplane”?
felmani26
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Quite clearly this is key - failure to back Jose adequately and you can get prepared for a long and sour goodbye but then i'd say any prospective manager requires the necessary backing to address glaring issues all over the pitch.
Does Jose have the stomach for a rebuild? That's the pertinent question as well because I think it's fair to say he was a sold a dream that's quickly turned into a nightmare.
bubble07
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Email said protest outside Tottenham hotspur stadium between 10-4. Email is genuine but maybe its not happening
ILS
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Apparently Chick King has a limited menu. I can only assume that is what the protest is about.
BringBack_leGin
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I was just being facetious mate I knew what you meant ?
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