Jose Mourinho
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Don't think this is a quick fix and will take a few windows. Taking into account how Mourinho usually does 2-3 year stints, not sure how we go about approaching transfers. Can't help but feel Mourinho is the type that works well with the majority of his players being ready made, off the peg type players in terms of individual qualities who he can coach his system into rather than bring their own abilities on. Hence the ITK on him wanting Koulibaly makes sense.
Not sure he is the type suited to us bringing in a younger player with great potential but the finished article.
Not sure he is the type suited to us bringing in a younger player with great potential but the finished article.
fishhhandaricecake
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Ok guys three things:
1. Squad isn’t good enough and is stale and that is mainly Levy an d recruitment teams fault.
2. Jose has taken over a team who were really struggling for form mid-season so in theory should be given some time BUT
3. Some already worrying signs about the football we are playing and how it will not stand us in good sted to win games and its also painful to watch
Its depressing that there are issues with the way the club run the football side of the business but also worrying signals about the new manager we’ve just brought in, sure time and patience in Jose are needed but it’s the lack of faith in Levy and the player recruitment to suit a manager and plan which is a fundamental huge issue and has been for the past 20 years under Levy.
1. Squad isn’t good enough and is stale and that is mainly Levy an d recruitment teams fault.
2. Jose has taken over a team who were really struggling for form mid-season so in theory should be given some time BUT
3. Some already worrying signs about the football we are playing and how it will not stand us in good sted to win games and its also painful to watch
Its depressing that there are issues with the way the club run the football side of the business but also worrying signals about the new manager we’ve just brought in, sure time and patience in Jose are needed but it’s the lack of faith in Levy and the player recruitment to suit a manager and plan which is a fundamental huge issue and has been for the past 20 years under Levy.
Yid121
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This sort of thing worries me:
John Terry once remarked that Mourinho would ‘ignore’ Chelsea players that were injured. ‘He would walk straight past you on the treatment table,’ said Terry. ‘But you’re sitting there as captain of the football club, you come in kind of looking for the high five from the gaffer. ‘You don’t get it, he blanks you and he says to the physio, while you’re there so he knows what he’s doing, ‘How long?’
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John Terry once remarked that Mourinho would ‘ignore’ Chelsea players that were injured. ‘He would walk straight past you on the treatment table,’ said Terry. ‘But you’re sitting there as captain of the football club, you come in kind of looking for the high five from the gaffer. ‘You don’t get it, he blanks you and he says to the physio, while you’re there so he knows what he’s doing, ‘How long?’
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fishhhandaricecake
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No clue mate what to think at the moment.
Gb160
Well done boys. Good process
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Well it's rhetorical so that'll save you the bother.
ILS
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Why is it whenever a club buys crap it is never the manager who wants them?
Jose would have had the final say just like Fergie and Van Gaal.
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Should have just hired Howe, he wouldn't have embarrassed people with his behaviour, wouldn't have 'thrown' his unfit out of shape record signing under the bus and he wouldn't be possibly ignoring injured players on the physio table among other things.
Ronwol196061
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Mourinho has, some thinking to do. I think today's post match presser he just offered excuses, no ideas.
We had a ton of attackers running about and even we changed some it was the same problem.
No creativity
Defence: Gaps and space everywhere
They were even better than us on pressing
Mourinho had some good honest pressers the last weeks but today was harping on VAR and Harry's injury.
It doesn't explain the lack of flow and that directly linked to the weakness of our midfield.
mpickard2087
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As I said just days ago, we'll get a fair few games that are absolute muck..........
But on the main part of what I wrote, it's one thing for Jose not to change much mid-season or rock the boat and have a mega clear out. But there is a danger, and maybe we're seeing it developing already, where things just drift and players/staff/team will quickly start to go through the motions until the season is eventually put out of it's misery.
He came in and worked on a couple of things, counter attacks or a more direct ball, but basically some faster attacks and transitions. The first few weeks it catches teams by surprise, if/when they're now adjusting to it, we don't have much beyond that. Maybe if we get Son back etc. and a fit firing team we can outgun teams most weeks, but if space and conditions to counter are increasingly not there, some attempt has to be made in terms of developing possession play and constructing attacks. There's still 5 months of the season to go and we cant just stumble around aimlessly when Plan A isn't an option.
fishhhandaricecake
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Thank goodness for that
Gb160
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Why does it worry you?
I think a lot of our fans are just too conditioned to the cuddly Poch approach.
fishhhandaricecake
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We’d be served shit football with Howe as well mate minus the PR dramatics.
We need a progressive coach who is the next Klopp etc
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Perhaps season ticket holders don't want a progressive coach with another 'X' year plan and want to see a return ... Pretty football leading to pots and the like is the dream.
Fans haven't had a pot to piss in for how long ...
Think the fans, including those who post on here, have to pick what they want and accept they ain't going to get everything they wish, especially on the pitch.
GutBucket
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This team simply isn't good enough but it's even worse with route one tactics, hope that Jose and Sacramento abandon it, especially with Kane out. I expect Son and Dele/Lucas up front with long ball tactics sadly though, especially when Ndombele doesn't start.
dagraham
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Not an overreaction imo. It’s not the result, but the performance. Same against Norwich and the way we were so outplayed against Chelsea.
At the end of the day though I think we’d be even lower in the table if we had not made the change, but it’s just so depressing watching us at the moment.
And made even more depressing that it’s the first season in the new stadium, only 6 months since reaching a CL final and a lot of the same players that were part of such a good team ( even though in typical Spurs fashion we have absolutely fuck all to show for it).
SpartanSpur
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Must admit I've been a bit disappointed in Jose, especially today, Chelsea and Wolves. I knew we had issues in midfield and at full back especially but I hoped he could be a bit more creative.
Norwich and Utd poor results mitigated somewhat with awful errors at the worst times.
Style of football hasn't been great but that's been the case largely for almost 18 months now. The failings at this club were at all levels, Levy, Poch and the players. Anyone acting smug and saying Poch should have stayed really doesn't remember how dire things were becoming (and backed by ITK).
I just hope Levy is being suitably spooked to give Jose what he needs in January. I do feel for Jose despite some the aforementioned disappointment as he really was chucked in at the deep end. Not only did he have the disjointed squad but he also inherited massive confidence and fitness issues from the prior 12-18 months. He's also had 2 games a week and next to no time on the training ground. Far too early to judge him but must admit the concerns are creeping in. Small matter of Liverpool coming up too ?
Norwich and Utd poor results mitigated somewhat with awful errors at the worst times.
Style of football hasn't been great but that's been the case largely for almost 18 months now. The failings at this club were at all levels, Levy, Poch and the players. Anyone acting smug and saying Poch should have stayed really doesn't remember how dire things were becoming (and backed by ITK).
I just hope Levy is being suitably spooked to give Jose what he needs in January. I do feel for Jose despite some the aforementioned disappointment as he really was chucked in at the deep end. Not only did he have the disjointed squad but he also inherited massive confidence and fitness issues from the prior 12-18 months. He's also had 2 games a week and next to no time on the training ground. Far too early to judge him but must admit the concerns are creeping in. Small matter of Liverpool coming up too ?
shelfboy68
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It doesn't matter what coach you hire if you don't back him what is the point.
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