3 ITKs now all saying similar things, not good.
I'm really concerned the issue is where Poch's head is at. For the new project to work he needs to be bang up for it and I'm not sure he is right now. He seems fed up most of the time. If his heart is not in it we are in trouble. Trix's info suggests Poch is a big part of the problem currently. If he is lacking motivation it will trickle down to the players.
Fingers crossed things have improved since the wake up call on Sunday. NLD could be ideal timing to get everyone on the same page...
Who is the third one?
don't have the time to read back true the tread right now, but saw the info from
ValenciaYid and Trix but not a 3rd one...
Appreciate the info
It's not something you can just flick a switch to do, though. Even City with all their riches have found it takes time to get that winning aura, both the club and the fans. Our fans, well, the ones under 60, have only suffered pain and heartbreak, so of course they're not gonna turn up expecting to win everything.Agreed. This is the biggest single thing that needs to change at the club imo. Up until now “punching above our weight” has become the mantra of THFC. And whilst it may be technically correct I don’t believe we will start winning things unless we as a club ( board, manager, players and fans alike) expect to do so and see not doing that as a failure.
It was extremely odd when Poch announced in the build up that he would probably leave if we won. Again, you have to wonder what effect that had on the players. It certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear. I tend to think he would have left and also if we hadn't made top 4 which , really, we shouldn't have, so I get the feeling his mindset has been that way for a while, a bit like several of his squad.True but its also in their history to win big. We turned up (both club and fans) in Madrid like it was a day out.
It's not something you can just flick a switch to do, though. Even City with all their riches have found it takes time to get that winning aura, both the club and the fans. Our fans, well, the ones under 60, have only suffered pain and heartbreak, so of course they're not gonna turn up expecting to win everything.
If this thread reaches 100 pages does it mean it really is the beginning of the end?
What's pissing me off is that with the new stadium and some top signings, I was really excited about this season.
It's all gone moody really quickly.
I’m sorry mate no offence but all I see in your post is loads of excuses. The poor performances speak for themselves. People see what they want to see I guess. I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just the way we choose to interpret what we see. You are choosing to believe their were justified reasons why we’ve been playing so poorly for so long, and if you asked me in May I’d have possibly been with you, but it’s continued this season which is now setting alarm bells ringing. No one is panicking yet but it’s worrying.
I think we can agree that you are in fact blabbering a little bit.I am not blabbering about something or am I. I never implied that ever.
Ok.I think we can agree that you are in fact blabbering a little bit.
Levy is levy get that, but Poch got all 3 in that he wanted. Yes he had to wait but he got all 3.But we’d still be stuck with Levy even if Poch goes. Which manager can be successful on the pitch at the level we now demand with him negotiating all our transfers?
Fans now want us challenging for the title, not going to happen just with a change of manager.
I’ve seen it all on this thread, some even believe Poch has had the same backing as Klopp and Pep ?
It was extremely odd when Poch announced in the build up that he would probably leave if we won. Again, you have to wonder what effect that had on the players. It certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear. I tend to think he would have left and also if we hadn't made top 4 which , really, we shouldn't have, so I get the feeling his mindset has been that way for a while, a bit like several of his squad.
It was extremely odd when Poch announced in the build up that he would probably leave if we won. Again, you have to wonder what effect that had on the players. It certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear. I tend to think he would have left and also if we hadn't made top 4 which , really, we shouldn't have, so I get the feeling his mindset has been that way for a while, a bit like several of his squad.
If this thread reaches 100 pages does it mean it really is the beginning of the end?
Then we need to get in Mourinho and hope the old version turns up. Or hope Poch wins a trophy soon.Agreed. This is the biggest single thing that needs to change at the club imo. Up until now “punching above our weight” has become the mantra of THFC. And whilst it may be technically correct I don’t believe we will start winning things unless we as a club ( board, manager, players and fans alike) expect to do so and see not doing that as a failure.
Then we need to get in Mourinho and hope the old version turns up. Or hope Poch wins a trophy soon.
Or we will just be a "punching above our weight, hope club"