The beginning of the end...

[Blackrat1299]

What system would Mourinho play?
Defence? He would have to spend 150 M for the back line at least.
5 heavyweights across the middle? 200m
We then would need 250 m creative players

Take out a second mortgage on the stadium

 

[WiganSpur]

It's actually 4 ITKs:

ValYid - said Poch has lost the dressing room

Hercs - not quite as serious as that, but things aren't great behind the scenes

Ali Z - again, not a total disaster, but not the most settled dressing room

Trix - he hasn't lost the dressing room, but things are far from harmonious

Unless it's just 1 or 2 individuals that can be shipped out, when this happens there's rarely a way out apart from a change in coach.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I'm not really very worried about the man, the individual Pochettino leaving. On one hand everybody knows I've never been his biggest fan, on the other hand I think him guiding the club to several consecutive CLs is admirable. But I'm not worried about that one person. What I am worried about if he leaves is, what comes after?

What does a post Pochettino Spurs look like?

I can't foresee it but I can line up some of the more or less plausible scenarios.

1) Several players leave too, some on a free, the club is left with big holes and little cash, and the rebuild is almost impossible. More "it is an transition season, we must be patient".

2) ENIC don't care much for the fork in the road, see their work as complete and sell the club. This might mark an end to me caring, depending on who the new owner would be.

3) Levy thinks he can master this new chapter of the club and hires a controversial manager. At the very least we will be guaranteed some drama and entertainment.

4) Levy embarks on yet another manager project who is intended for a long reign and given impossible targets and no funds to achieve it. AVB and Pochettino meets over a bottle of red wine and laughs at the poor sucker who now is the next project manager.

I worry for where we are a year from now. I alluded to this already in May, but I wonder if what's behind is as good as it gets.

 

[mil1lion]

I'd be surprised if he lost the dressing room. I just can't see this group of players turning on him. I think the only issue in the dressing room is the players with 1 year on their contracts not sure they want to stay, and Aurier/Wanyama looking to move. It must lead to a negative energy around the place. The transfer window can't close soon enough. I think back to the likes of Rose and Alderweireld causing a few problems but they still got on with it on the pitch. I expect the same for anyone else who is still at the club by the end of Monday. Hopefully we dig out a result on Sunday and then after the window closes and players return from internationals we'll kick on.

 

[WiganSpur]

I'm not really very worried about the man, the individual Pochettino leaving. On one hand everybody knows I've never been his biggest fan, on the other hand I think him guiding the club to several consecutive CLs is admirable. But I'm not worried about that one person. What I am worried about if he leaves is, what comes after?

What does a post Pochettino Spurs look like?

I can't foresee it but I can line up some of the more or less plausible scenarios.

1) Several players leave too, some on a free, the club is left with big holes and little cash, and the rebuild is almost impossible. More "it is an transition season, we must be patient".

2) ENIC don't care much for the fork in the road, see their work as complete and sell the club. This might mark an end to me caring, depending on who the new owner would be.

3) Levy thinks he can master this new chapter of the club and hires a controversial manager. At the very least we will be guaranteed some drama and entertainment.

4) Levy embarks on yet another manager project who is intended for a long reign and given impossible targets and no funds to achieve it. AVB and Pochettino meets over a bottle of red wine and laughs at the poor sucker who now is the next project manager.

I worry for where we are a year from now. I alluded to this already in May, but I wonder if what's behind is as good as it gets.

If the alternative is a continuation of performances like we witnessed on Sunday, then as i've said if it's not 1 or 2 players that can be shipped out to alleviate the problem, then i'm afraid Pochettino has to go. The way I see it, taking that decision is either a stab in the dark (a new manager) or a likely downward spiral if a number of players are expressing discontent at the current situation (keeping Poch).

There are plenty of coaches out there who have good attributes, and could hopefully salvage the dressing room. I am massively against Mourinho though at this stage - having thought about it, I am not sure what he would solve. There are also many incompatibilities with him and the way Spurs should play and what the fans expect of a Spurs manager. Allegri on the other hand is free and could potentially be a sensible choice to make this team a winning one.

 

[dagraham]

Then we need to get in Mourinho and hope the old version turns up. Or hope Poch wins a trophy soon.
Or we will just be a "punching above our weight, hope club"

Just want to clarify, I don’t want to get rid of Poch, it’s just a bug bear of mine that we keep peddling this narrative ( even if it has an element of truth to it).

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

I'm not really very worried about the man, the individual Pochettino leaving. On one hand everybody knows I've never been his biggest fan, on the other hand I think him guiding the club to several consecutive CLs is admirable. But I'm not worried about that one person. What I am worried about if he leaves is, what comes after?

What does a post Pochettino Spurs look like?

I can't foresee it but I can line up some of the more or less plausible scenarios.

1) Several players leave too, some on a free, the club is left with big holes and little cash, and the rebuild is almost impossible. More "it is an transition season, we must be patient".

2) ENIC don't care much for the fork in the road, see their work as complete and sell the club. This might mark an end to me caring, depending on who the new owner would be.

3) Levy thinks he can master this new chapter of the club and hires a controversial manager. At the very least we will be guaranteed some drama and entertainment.

4) Levy embarks on yet another manager project who is intended for a long reign and given impossible targets and no funds to achieve it. AVB and Pochettino meets over a bottle of red wine and laughs at the poor sucker who now is the next project manager.

I worry for where we are a year from now. I alluded to this already in May, but I wonder if what's behind is as good as it gets.

Fella, cheer up. The subtext in that post is that we're about to go back to being levels below Woolwich/middle of the road/Spursy. Darren Bent.

Whatever happens we (and all of football for that matter) are in a very different era. We're not City or Liverpool but few are, heck remember when Barca and Real were?

If sucks at the moment but Poch or not I really think we'll be fine.

(until the proposed European Super League comes to fruition and we're locked out)

 

[WiganSpur]

What system would Mourinho play?
Defence? He would have to spend 150 M for the back line at least.
5 heavyweights across the middle? 200m
We then would need 250 m creative players

I don't want Mourinho, but it's a different situation than when he turned up to United. He likes professional, brave, experienced and aggressive players who can lead. We have a lot of those, United don't. If he did arrive, I don't think he'd change a lot of the playing staff personally.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I don't want Mourinho, but it's a different situation than when he turned up to United. He likes professional, brave, experienced and aggressive players who can lead. We have a lot of those, United don't. If he did arrive, I don't think he'd change a lot of the playing staff personally.

I don't want him either but I think he'd be a frontrunner for the job.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Fella, cheer up.

Good advice.

 

[spursfan77]

Let’s not forget that last season DESK only started 9 matches all season. How many have they started this year?

Exactly. Let’s get them all on the pitch together. Then if we are still terrible then there’s a problem.

 

[Dougal]

Let’s not forget that last season DESK only started 9 matches all season. How many have they started this year?

Exactly. Let’s get them all on the pitch together. Then if we are still terrible then there’s a problem.

We’re not referring to them like that are we? That’s awful. Not only should you now spell it out fully, you should do it on a blackboard 100 times like Bart Simpson.

 

[dossett]

I am now putting my affairs in order, kissing the kids goodnight and rooting the wife one last time in preparation for the coming apocholypse...

Can’t spell apocalypse? Don’t worry, it’s not the end of the world...

 

[spursfan77]

We’re not referring to them like that are we? That’s awful. Not only should you now spell it out fully, you should do it on a blackboard 100 times like Bart Simpson.

I hate it but I couldn’t be bothered. Too busy eating a magnum.

 

[leray]

True but its also in their history to win big. We turned up (both club and fans) in Madrid like it was a day out.

Yeah, that goes without saying of course.

They knew that they're strong enough to be in the final next season. We somehow thought this is once in a lifetime opportunity. Which may be even worse, considering how flat the performance was in Madrid.

 

[dagraham]

Let’s not forget that last season DESK only started 9 matches all season. How many have they started this year?

Exactly. Let’s get them all on the pitch together. Then if we are still terrible then there’s a problem.

Think we are really missing Ali actually. Even though he was very poor at the back end of last season we really miss his off the ball movement.

Our attacking players have been like statues in the three games so far.

 

[homer hotspur]

What system would Mourinho play?
Defence? He would have to spend 150 M for the back line at least.
5 heavyweights across the middle? 200m
We then would need 250 m creative players

£30 million to pay off his remaining contract when we sack him during season 2

 

[hakano]

Levy is levy get that, but Poch got all 3 in that he wanted. Yes he had to wait but he got all 3.

But by the time he got the 3 he wanted did he need 4/5 or even 6 due to the delay? He spoke of a major overhaul at the end of last season - I do not see any overhaul let alone a major one. Signing 3 players in 3 windows is not backing your manager if you want to dine at the top table.

 

[Shadydan]

But by the time he got the 3 he wanted did he need 4/5 or even 6 due to the delay? He spoke of a major overhaul at the end of last season - I do not see any overhaul let alone a major one. Signing 3 players in 3 windows is not backing your manager if you want to dine at the top table.

Who the fek signs six players in one transfer window

 

[John48]

Mate of mine tonight, Spurs supporter, asked me why Kane gave Vertonghen a black eye, I said I don't know, but could this be part of the problem Poch has to sort out?