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They may be quoting the wrong source and it's actually from here:

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/betis/20190804/463853759194/tottenham-oferta-lo-celso.html

Tottenham must raise its offer for Lo Celso
  • The continuity of the Argentine midfielder in Betis should not be ruled out despite the signing of Fekir and the disbursement that still must make the Verdiblancos by the forward

After closing the transfer of Junior to FC Barcelona (for 18 + 7 + 5 million euros) and also having advanced negotiations for the departure of Camarasa -which are intended by Crystal Palace and Burnley, both of the Premier-, on the noble floor of the Benito Villamarín now focus attention on the possible march of Giovani Lo Celso , for whom Tottenham must raise his last offer significantly, otherwise the Argentine would remain one more season in the Verdiblanco team.

Although Real Betis has already signed Nabil Fekir - for 19.75 million euros and variables that will hardly reach 25 - and yet another important disbursement must be made to reinforce the lead, it should not be ruled out that finally the franc- Algerian share the core with the Argentine, although everything will depend on the will - and the millions - of Tottenham to take over Lo Celso.
The term of signings in the Premier ends on Thursday and these days will already be absolutely decisive to know the future of Lo Celso, unless Tottenham raises its offer and comes closer to the 75 million initially claimed by Betis, it is more near to stay than to leave, although there is still almost a month of transfer market - in Spain and other major leagues closes on September 2 - and many things can still happen.

In Betis they have already made accounts and after the sales of Pau López, Junior, Sergio Léon, Boudebouz, Inui and Brasanac, plus other departures that can be closed shortly - Camarasa, Francis, Kaptoum, Narváez or Loren have the future in the air- there would be a gap in the salary limit so that Lo Celso could continue in Betis, along with Fekir and the striker that has yet to arrive, as well as another left-handed side. It was not the initially planned plan, but the position of not selling to Lo Celso if a good offer does not arrive for him at the moment is firm on the noble floor of Villamarín.
Yeah, that'd make a lot more sense.

Thanks for finding and posting.
 

Klinsmannic

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Betis currently have a net spend this summer of £17M (including the fee they paid to PSG for Lo Celso).

That doesn't strike me as a crippling spend. Why is it so inconceivable that they keep Lo Celso? Him, Fekir and Juanmi in attack with William Carvalho behind them is solid. They could compete for the European places if things go well, maybe even CL (finished 10th last year). I don't think they need to sell him.

With the sale of Firpo Betis are now at a zero net spend, and they've also got his wages off the books. They've already replaced Firpo With Antonio Pedraza on loan from Villarreal with an option to buy.

Even less need to sell Lo Celso imo. If they were desperate for the cash they would not have reneged on the agreed fee multiple times (according to ITK).
 

Primativ

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We've been here before so many times. We drag out signing a player so the selling club instead accept offers for their other players from other clubs, and don't need the money for the player we want, hardening their bargaining position further. Levy doesn't bend so we end up not signing a key target.

This is the risk of not striking a deal quickly. Always the same old story.
 

WiganSpur

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Sounds like we'll have to bite the bullet and pay up, or move onto somebody else. All down to Levy.

But Fernandes in Eriksen out is just not good enough.
 

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With the sale of Firpo Betis are now at a zero net spend, and they've also got his wages off the books. They've already replaced Firpo With Antonio Pedraza on loan from Villarreal with an option to buy.

Even less need to sell Lo Celso imo. If they were desperate for the cash they would not have reneged on the agreed fee multiple times (according to ITK).

Don’t they want to buy a striker?

They’ve got a month left to trade don’t forget.
 

dtxspurs

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Sounds like we'll have to bite the bullet and pay up, or move onto somebody else. All down to Levy.

But Fernandes in Eriksen out is just not good enough.
My prediction right now is Fernandes in and Eriksen stays. That could easily change in the next 5 minutes. But thats what I'm feeling going into Thursday.
 
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Hope it works out somehow but I think Herc talked at some point about how much Levy likes a game of poker. In this situation, it seems like he felt he could get Betis to cave to a lower price, and now that looks to have backfired.

What I don't understand is when you know the release clause is much more than you are willing to pay, why spend so much time and energy on trying to lower it? Seems like they have been working on this deal all summer. I understand Betis has moved the goalposts. Why not put a final bid out a while ago and move on to other targets? I mean Lo Celso seems like a really good prospect but I'm sure there are many other promising prospects out there - obviously Fernandes and Ceballos (earlier) where looked at.

I'm not blaming Levy here, but I don't think Betis is in the wrong either. If you were fans of Betis, I think you would be happy they didn't cave and instead managed to hold onto a top prospect. They had a release clause for a reason.
 

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Sounds like we'll have to bite the bullet and pay up, or move onto somebody else. All down to Levy.

But Fernandes in Eriksen out is just not good enough.


By all accounts, Levy has now 'bitten the bullet' 3 times. It may not be good enough in your opinion, but the very fact that Levy didn't walk away from the deal weeks ago, as Trix suggested, indicates that he's trying extremely hard to deliver the targets Poch wants. Sounds like some high level shithousing going on from Betis. Seems odd though that all of their other deals seemed to have gone smoothly.
 

Johnny J

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If he really is the top target, and Poch wants him more than anyone else, then it's time to pay what's needed. If we had a list of other credible alternatives we could get then that would be OK, but history says we don't, and that Poch is incredibly picky with who we sign. So just pay the extra, and if he's as good as Poch thinks he is, it'll be worth it.

The alternative is another "we tried but the market was difficult" and the prices go up again next year and we're in the same position again, except without Eriksen.
 

Klinsmannic

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Don’t they want to buy a striker?

They’ve got a month left to trade don’t forget.

They may still want to do some business, but that could also be funded by their likely sale of Camarasa.

They've also bought Juanmi who is a tricky forward and could play ahead of Fekir and Lo Celso.
 

WiganSpur

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By all accounts, Levy has now 'bitten the bullet' 3 times. It may not be good enough in your opinion, but the very fact that Levy didn't walk away from the deal weeks ago, as Trix suggested, indicates that he's trying extremely hard to deliver the targets Poch wants. Sounds like some high level shithousing going on from Betis. Seems odd though that all of their other deals seemed to have gone smoothly.
That's still no excuse though. And i'm not saying it's only Levy's fault.

In this case Poch and Levy must come together to get a plan B.

If we only have 1 of Fernandes and Eriksen, we'll have similar problems to last season, with players getting burnt out leading to injuries and poor performances.
 

wrd

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They may still want to do some business, but that could also be funded by their likely sale of Camarasa.

They've also bought Juanmi who is a tricky forward and could play ahead of Fekir and Lo Celso.

Loan only I heard for like 2 million.
 

JR1994

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The positive amidst this goalposts shenanigans...Levy has AGAIN backed Poch. This I like. A lot.

We go again

COYS

How’s he backed him? You reckon Poch will look at the situation and go ah we tried to get what I want but teams kept moving goal posts so that’s alright. Backing is signing and it’s levy’s job to deliver the players.. currently we haven’t. 4 days
 

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By all accounts, Levy has now 'bitten the bullet' 3 times. It may not be good enough in your opinion, but the very fact that Levy didn't walk away from the deal weeks ago, as Trix suggested, indicates that he's trying extremely hard to deliver the targets Poch wants. Sounds like some high level shithousing going on from Betis. Seems odd though that all of their other deals seemed to have gone smoothly.[/QUOTE]

As others have said, it’s probably down to the Premier league tax that foreign clubs apply.

Would’nt mind betting that one of the times Betis “moved the goalposts” was not long after we announced our record shirt sponsorship deal with AIA. Still think it was strange timing to announce such a windfall during the transfer window.
 

stonebrow

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How’s he backed him? You reckon Poch will look at the situation and go ah we tried to get what I want but teams kept moving goal posts so that’s alright. Backing is signing and it’s levy’s job to deliver the players.. currently we haven’t. 4 days
He tried though but unfortunately there wasn’t enough time to conclude a deal...lessons learned and all that! Going for it big time this summer Levy is!
 
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