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thank god you are not the manager, an that you have no involvement in the decision making process at the club, as if you were we'd be in the championship
Tottenham Vs Wolves: Match Thread
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thank god you are not the manager, an that you have no involvement in the decision making process at the club, as if you were we'd be in the championship
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Some observations on todays game.
We always seem very comfortable in possesion but that is only in our third and the middle third of the pitch. When it comes to the final third we seem to lack any composure or any idea what sort of ball should be played into our strikers for all our possession we still lack any consistant cutting edge in attack which means short of a moment of brilliance from one our players we just don't look like scoring and today was a prime example of that becauae I swear we could have played Wolves all day today and still wouldn't have scored.
This problem in the final third seems to happen mostly when playing teams that are very well organised in defense. We don't seem to have a striker that can actually hold up the ball and bring other players (neither Crouch or Pav seem able to forfill this role) into the game and get the opposition defense turned and facing it's on goal. Todays game was played infront of Wolves and I can only remember a couple of times when we got properly in behind them to cause them any worry.
Another issue I have noticed seems to be our lack of a real football brain on the pitch (hopefully some that will change with Modric being back from injury but putting all out eggs in one basket is a bad idea.) our decision making in the final third is horrible at times not to mention we didn't move the ball quick enough to really stretch the opposition meaning that it is easier for them to regain their defensive shape.
Anyone else notice that we don't seem to be pressing the opposition as much as we did earlier on in the season or is it just me? I am sure there is more about todays game that annoyed me today but I can't think of them at the moment.
So the £30 million+ question is...... What is lacking when we play teams like Wolves? As it is the 3 points dropped today and the 3 points dropped at home to Stoke that will stop us getting in the CL.
We always seem very comfortable in possesion but that is only in our third and the middle third of the pitch. When it comes to the final third we seem to lack any composure or any idea what sort of ball should be played into our strikers for all our possession we still lack any consistant cutting edge in attack which means short of a moment of brilliance from one our players we just don't look like scoring and today was a prime example of that becauae I swear we could have played Wolves all day today and still wouldn't have scored.
This problem in the final third seems to happen mostly when playing teams that are very well organised in defense. We don't seem to have a striker that can actually hold up the ball and bring other players (neither Crouch or Pav seem able to forfill this role) into the game and get the opposition defense turned and facing it's on goal. Todays game was played infront of Wolves and I can only remember a couple of times when we got properly in behind them to cause them any worry.
Another issue I have noticed seems to be our lack of a real football brain on the pitch (hopefully some that will change with Modric being back from injury but putting all out eggs in one basket is a bad idea.) our decision making in the final third is horrible at times not to mention we didn't move the ball quick enough to really stretch the opposition meaning that it is easier for them to regain their defensive shape.
Anyone else notice that we don't seem to be pressing the opposition as much as we did earlier on in the season or is it just me? I am sure there is more about todays game that annoyed me today but I can't think of them at the moment.
So the £30 million+ question is...... What is lacking when we play teams like Wolves? As it is the 3 points dropped today and the 3 points dropped at home to Stoke that will stop us getting in the CL.
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Haven't read any other posts but........that was utter shit.
I can accept last week and the Stoke defeat but failing to create one clear cut chance at home to Wolves is not acceptable. We were static, predictable and sloppy. Why didn't he start with Crouch? I can understand starting Keane if he was in form or looking lively but he's the complete opposite at the moment. Our full-backs had the ball 90% of the time we had possession and either had to go inside or back to the centre-backs.
Yes credit to Wolves, and I can accept defeat, but not in that manner. We never looked like scoring and that quite frankly is not good enough.
Wednesday is absolutely massive, especially now.
I can accept last week and the Stoke defeat but failing to create one clear cut chance at home to Wolves is not acceptable. We were static, predictable and sloppy. Why didn't he start with Crouch? I can understand starting Keane if he was in form or looking lively but he's the complete opposite at the moment. Our full-backs had the ball 90% of the time we had possession and either had to go inside or back to the centre-backs.
Yes credit to Wolves, and I can accept defeat, but not in that manner. We never looked like scoring and that quite frankly is not good enough.
Wednesday is absolutely massive, especially now.
Paxtonite
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Age old spurs problem of believing their own hype and allowing complacency to creep in to their game. Allowing Wolves to take an early lead was always gonna be the worst that could happen, but honestly how many of our players thought they would just turn up and win in the home games against Stoke and Wolves? Those are the games that the successful teams show their mettle in.
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did gomes have a verbal fight with a fan today?
Dwallace
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I'm not even going to ask how you have come to the conclusion I'm fat, and I also don't think its up to the manager who and who doesn't get banned from WHL.
Well your the one with the law degree you tell me?
He's still a good manager, maybe not the one to take us as high as we all want, or expect, but you can't deny he is a good manager. Otherwise your head needs checking. Might not be a bad idea for you actually.
I do actually look ahead, I'm always looking ahead in fact. I do think Harry can take us to the top four, perhaps no further though, unfortunately. I always look at the month of fixtures we have, where we're expected to pick up points, where the teams around might drop points, etc. I'm always thinking about where we can improve. As are most on here, otherwise a forum as good as this would be utterly pointless.
Well if you think Arry can take us to the top 4 your head needs checking which might not be bad for you actually. He has never lead any team to a top 4 finish so why is that gonna chhange now? And as for looking ahead if you think that Arry can be the type of manager that Fergie and Wenger have been at their respesctive clubs( WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED) then take sometime out to upgrade your knowledge on football. Maybe you can study football knowledge alongside your law degree. I do agree that Keane and Defoe are the best pairing we have but i don't see much of a future for Keane with Crouch around.Oh Btw please find time to reply to my message if your not to busy watching Perry Mason videos. And my age? old enough to know about the game and old enough to know when i am right!
Well your the one with the law degree you tell me?
He's still a good manager, maybe not the one to take us as high as we all want, or expect, but you can't deny he is a good manager. Otherwise your head needs checking. Might not be a bad idea for you actually.
I do actually look ahead, I'm always looking ahead in fact. I do think Harry can take us to the top four, perhaps no further though, unfortunately. I always look at the month of fixtures we have, where we're expected to pick up points, where the teams around might drop points, etc. I'm always thinking about where we can improve. As are most on here, otherwise a forum as good as this would be utterly pointless.
Well if you think Arry can take us to the top 4 your head needs checking which might not be bad for you actually. He has never lead any team to a top 4 finish so why is that gonna chhange now? And as for looking ahead if you think that Arry can be the type of manager that Fergie and Wenger have been at their respesctive clubs( WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED) then take sometime out to upgrade your knowledge on football. Maybe you can study football knowledge alongside your law degree. I do agree that Keane and Defoe are the best pairing we have but i don't see much of a future for Keane with Crouch around.Oh Btw please find time to reply to my message if your not to busy watching Perry Mason videos. And my age? old enough to know about the game and old enough to know when i am right!
duffman22
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What do you suggest in regards to a solution then?
Paxtonite
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Mourinho?? Not saying we should change manager but just a thought. Apparently he wants to come back to England.
spurs mental
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What difference would a degree make to whether I'm able to tell you I'm fat or not? :shrug:
Look at the teams he has managed, West Ham, Portsmouth, Southampton. Do they sound like teams who are going to be challenging the top 4? Didn't think so.
Now, at Tottenham, he has the resources and players to do that. Aside from a few players he's built a good squad in the last year. You can't honestly think that all his signings have been crap, cos it sounds to me like you don't trust any of the signings he wants to make, or has made.
Once again, I agree with you about Crouch. Unfortunately I also think you're right about his future with Crouch around too.
If you find the time, you could reply to the rest of my post. :up:
spurs mental
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So yet another change of manager mid-season?! And start the merry go round of players again. And start the transition again, which we've had for the last few years.
Or we could stick with a manager, who is doing a pretty good job. We've had a poor run of results, but we're still sitting in a nice position in the table.
Dwallace
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I honestly thought Ramos was the man but the fact that we sold our forward line and left him in the lurch was a mistake. And his relationship with the players was not good tbh It is diffcult to see an alternative maybe we could get Rijkaard or Van Basten even Klinsmann. However i can't see Arry take us forward we may have the occasional good game but in the long run he won't take us anywhere i am convinced of that. I am not a coward so if he proves me wrong i will come on here and admit i am wrong but i can't see that happening. Everyclub he has been at he has left in a mess overloaded squads and mountains of debt lets hope Mr Levy won't let him do that at spurs.
duffman22
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Please tell me you're all joking about replacing Redknapp?! Its like Jol 2007 all over again if so. We got rid of him because 'he couldn't get top 4' and got in 'one that could' and that left us bottom and winless after 8 games. Harry sorted that mess and its only because of him we're even talking about Champions League again.
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look at the villa fans who were slating o'neill after their extremely defensive tactics against us! They've just beaten united and are in 3rd!
This is a dip but I'm sure we'll turn it around. Its just frustrating because we really want 4th place.
This is a dip but I'm sure we'll turn it around. Its just frustrating because we really want 4th place.
FromTheLane
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why are you on this board if you don't support spurs? where were we when harry took over? and where are we now?
oh yeah, thought so. jog on.
markiespurs
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If we finish 7th or 8th at the end of the season chances are he'll be gone, Levy doesn't joke around.
duffman22
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Are you serious? Please tell me you're taking the piss?
What has Klinsmann done other than get a decent Germany to their own WC semi final? Why would Rijkaard or Van Basten ever join us? Deluded.
Ramos got sacked because he built a horrendously unbalanced side, and was useless at communicating with them and utilising them. How haven't you learnt anything from that lesson?
The reason Harry might not take us forward is because he's been here for a year and had to clear up Ramos's mess. And he's done a fucking good job in getting us competing in the top half again. You want top 4 but fail to appreciate that you have to build a decent side with foundations and be even top 6 first.
markiespurs
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Agreed. Some people on here don't seem to realise that it takes longer than just over a year to build and take that squad from bottom of the prem into the top four.
duffman22
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Disagree. I would hope that he has learned from the Jol fiasco. He has sacked 4 managers? Hoddle and Ramos for similar reasons (horrendous starts, weak/unbalanced squads, lost dressing room) - Jol because he let 05/06 and 06/07 get to his head (as many fans did) - and Graham, well, to get the fans on his side.
Redknapp has turned us around since he's been in. I know you're not a fan, and thats your opinion, but we're 5th for god sake.
I can't believe after that heap of shite today I'm actually making positive/optimistic posts. Sums this place up.
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What difference would a degree make to whether I'm able to tell you I'm fat or not? :shrug:
I was referring to the banning from the ground but lets forget about that anyway. I would like to apologise for my remarks they were childish and stupid. However we had just lost at home to the worst team in the Lge at home and failed to create any real chances in the process. So i was a little bit annoyed, tbh honest i admit someone of his signings haven't been bad Palacios has been good and Niko is class but the purchase of Crouch really angred me. I just think Arry relies to much on players he has coached in the past instead of trying new things (Crouch being preferred over Pav proves my point) I just hope Arry doesn't ruin the philosphy we have at the club of buying and nuturing young talent. That was something that for all his faults Mr Commoli beleived it and in the future we will see the benefit of that. I honestly believe if Arry had been in charge over the last few years that Lennon Modric or Berbatov would not of been at WHL. And that worries me especially after some of the players that i we have been linked with but i guess we will wait and see.:grin:
