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when you say "finished him off ..."
What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18
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goughie1966
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Arsemania:
Think Spurs could have a nightmarish few years coping with the stadium thing. They'll finish 6th or 7th this year, Ali and Eriksen will leave next year and then they'll face midtable again. You heard it here first.
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The fact is that they're not good enough to win the league and they're certainly not good enough to win the CL. Flattering to deceive is not going to attract players to replace the inevitable departures. Poch, Ali and Eriksen will all leave within the next year or 2 and it will be harder and harder to keep Kane if he continues to score at the rate he has. Now the tv money and perhaps their owner's intervention will maybe make their stadium debt a bit easier to manage than ours was but there are more competitive clubs in the league than there were when we built our stadium.
This is really the worst possible time for them to be building a new stadium because it's their best chance in decades to attain some sort of actual relevance outside of the 7 people that support them but it may just be curtailed by the difficulties incurred by the construction of the new stadium. Delicious stuff when you think about it actually. :lol: The fact that they don't appear to be willing or able to strengthen this summer is going to hurt them in both the near term and beyond.
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FA have denied Poch's attempt to reduce the large pitch size at Wembley.
Big pitch, cavernous stadium . . . teams won't be as intimidated by the crowd. Doesn't bode well for them.
Poch's record at Wembley is ****, losing to Chelsea twice and succumbing to Monaco and Bayer Leverkusen before suffering a fatal draw on away goals to Gent in the Europa League
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The perception was that Tottenham would need to tighten their belts and that the players understood that and were prepared to go along with Levy in the interests of the team and club. But they've only just moved stadiums and there's already talk of dissatisfaction.
In short, the ridiculously tight wage structure created by Levy is causing issues for him now.
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The problem for a club like Tottenham, who don't have anywhere near the capital we had at the time of our move, is how do they manage to convince their players to stay there and waste their career at a club going through a transition? They haven't been historical successfully, in terms of career achievements Wenger is on a different level to Poch and, I forgot to mention this earlier, it's very unlikely that Spurs consistently make CL spot under these conditions, which is important for key players.
Very tough times ahead for them.
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Think Spurs could have a nightmarish few years coping with the stadium thing. They'll finish 6th or 7th this year, Ali and Eriksen will leave next year and then they'll face midtable again. You heard it here first.
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The fact is that they're not good enough to win the league and they're certainly not good enough to win the CL. Flattering to deceive is not going to attract players to replace the inevitable departures. Poch, Ali and Eriksen will all leave within the next year or 2 and it will be harder and harder to keep Kane if he continues to score at the rate he has. Now the tv money and perhaps their owner's intervention will maybe make their stadium debt a bit easier to manage than ours was but there are more competitive clubs in the league than there were when we built our stadium.
This is really the worst possible time for them to be building a new stadium because it's their best chance in decades to attain some sort of actual relevance outside of the 7 people that support them but it may just be curtailed by the difficulties incurred by the construction of the new stadium. Delicious stuff when you think about it actually. :lol: The fact that they don't appear to be willing or able to strengthen this summer is going to hurt them in both the near term and beyond.
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FA have denied Poch's attempt to reduce the large pitch size at Wembley.
Big pitch, cavernous stadium . . . teams won't be as intimidated by the crowd. Doesn't bode well for them.
Poch's record at Wembley is ****, losing to Chelsea twice and succumbing to Monaco and Bayer Leverkusen before suffering a fatal draw on away goals to Gent in the Europa League
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The perception was that Tottenham would need to tighten their belts and that the players understood that and were prepared to go along with Levy in the interests of the team and club. But they've only just moved stadiums and there's already talk of dissatisfaction.
In short, the ridiculously tight wage structure created by Levy is causing issues for him now.
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The problem for a club like Tottenham, who don't have anywhere near the capital we had at the time of our move, is how do they manage to convince their players to stay there and waste their career at a club going through a transition? They haven't been historical successfully, in terms of career achievements Wenger is on a different level to Poch and, I forgot to mention this earlier, it's very unlikely that Spurs consistently make CL spot under these conditions, which is important for key players.
Very tough times ahead for them.
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yiddopaul
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They sound desperate. Clutching at anything to make themselves feel better.Arsemania:
Think Spurs could have a nightmarish few years coping with the stadium thing. They'll finish 6th or 7th this year, Ali and Eriksen will leave next year and then they'll face midtable again. You heard it here first.
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The fact is that they're not good enough to win the league and they're certainly not good enough to win the CL. Flattering to deceive is not going to attract players to replace the inevitable departures. Poch, Ali and Eriksen will all leave within the next year or 2 and it will be harder and harder to keep Kane if he continues to score at the rate he has. Now the tv money and perhaps their owner's intervention will maybe make their stadium debt a bit easier to manage than ours was but there are more competitive clubs in the league than there were when we built our stadium.
This is really the worst possible time for them to be building a new stadium because it's their best chance in decades to attain some sort of actual relevance outside of the 7 people that support them but it may just be curtailed by the difficulties incurred by the construction of the new stadium. Delicious stuff when you think about it actually. :lol: The fact that they don't appear to be willing or able to strengthen this summer is going to hurt them in both the near term and beyond.
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FA have denied Poch's attempt to reduce the large pitch size at Wembley.
Big pitch, cavernous stadium . . . teams won't be as intimidated by the crowd. Doesn't bode well for them.
Poch's record at Wembley is ****, losing to Chelsea twice and succumbing to Monaco and Bayer Leverkusen before suffering a fatal draw on away goals to Gent in the Europa League
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The perception was that Tottenham would need to tighten their belts and that the players understood that and were prepared to go along with Levy in the interests of the team and club. But they've only just moved stadiums and there's already talk of dissatisfaction.
In short, the ridiculously tight wage structure created by Levy is causing issues for him now.
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The problem for a club like Tottenham, who don't have anywhere near the capital we had at the time of our move, is how do they manage to convince their players to stay there and waste their career at a club going through a transition? They haven't been historical successfully, in terms of career achievements Wenger is on a different level to Poch and, I forgot to mention this earlier, it's very unlikely that Spurs consistently make CL spot under these conditions, which is important for key players.
Very tough times ahead for them.
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It's amusing that thy seem to think we'll simply 'lose' the likes of Dele, Eriksen and Kane, as if they're a set of car keys!
In the current transfer market, them three alone would fetch around £450m, and that's arguably a conservative estimate ( Kane £200m, Dele £150m, Eriksen £100m )
Fact is, we've built our stadium at a MUCH better time than they did. The tv deal in place is frankly disgusting in terms of how much money is being thrown about, but it's helping out very nicely with our project thanks very much! To think, the likes of Arsenal and their swashbuckling easy on the eye style ( of yesteryear obviously ) helped to secure such huge tv money too!
In the current transfer market, them three alone would fetch around £450m, and that's arguably a conservative estimate ( Kane £200m, Dele £150m, Eriksen £100m )
Fact is, we've built our stadium at a MUCH better time than they did. The tv deal in place is frankly disgusting in terms of how much money is being thrown about, but it's helping out very nicely with our project thanks very much! To think, the likes of Arsenal and their swashbuckling easy on the eye style ( of yesteryear obviously ) helped to secure such huge tv money too!
Rocksuperstar
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- Jun 6, 2005
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As a species it is rather embarrassing that the "problem" is a sensible guy who has some sort of perspective, where the norm has become people throwing so much money at an individual that they register higher than some small countries on the wealth scale, simply because they kick a fucking football.
I enjoy the game but it is, afterall, a game that has been hijacked and monetized by criminals and the new breed of greedy, thick-but-rich heirs to the previous generations fortunes. Leeds demonstrated the fate of clubs that offer too much in wages to players that are average, the only difference between then and now is the clubs lawyers and legal beagles have a better understanding of how to play the system and ensure that, whatever happens, the club can minimize the hit when they turn out to be a shower of rubbish on the pitch.
We have no problem whatsoever with our financial structure - we pay a fair wage and offer substantial rewards should they achieve more. To claim that is more of a problem than the way clubs irresponsibly throw money about is just backward.
I enjoy the game but it is, afterall, a game that has been hijacked and monetized by criminals and the new breed of greedy, thick-but-rich heirs to the previous generations fortunes. Leeds demonstrated the fate of clubs that offer too much in wages to players that are average, the only difference between then and now is the clubs lawyers and legal beagles have a better understanding of how to play the system and ensure that, whatever happens, the club can minimize the hit when they turn out to be a shower of rubbish on the pitch.
We have no problem whatsoever with our financial structure - we pay a fair wage and offer substantial rewards should they achieve more. To claim that is more of a problem than the way clubs irresponsibly throw money about is just backward.
TottenhamMattSpur
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Arsemania:
Think Spurs could have a nightmarish few years coping with the stadium thing. They'll finish 6th or 7th this year, Ali and Eriksen will leave next year and then they'll face midtable again. You heard it here first.
-----------------------------------------------
The fact is that they're not good enough to win the league and they're certainly not good enough to win the CL. Flattering to deceive is not going to attract players to replace the inevitable departures. Poch, Ali and Eriksen will all leave within the next year or 2 and it will be harder and harder to keep Kane if he continues to score at the rate he has. Now the tv money and perhaps their owner's intervention will maybe make their stadium debt a bit easier to manage than ours was but there are more competitive clubs in the league than there were when we built our stadium.
This is really the worst possible time for them to be building a new stadium because it's their best chance in decades to attain some sort of actual relevance outside of the 7 people that support them but it may just be curtailed by the difficulties incurred by the construction of the new stadium. Delicious stuff when you think about it actually. :lol: The fact that they don't appear to be willing or able to strengthen this summer is going to hurt them in both the near term and beyond.
------------------------------------------------
FA have denied Poch's attempt to reduce the large pitch size at Wembley.
Big pitch, cavernous stadium . . . teams won't be as intimidated by the crowd. Doesn't bode well for them.
Poch's record at Wembley is ****, losing to Chelsea twice and succumbing to Monaco and Bayer Leverkusen before suffering a fatal draw on away goals to Gent in the Europa League
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The perception was that Tottenham would need to tighten their belts and that the players understood that and were prepared to go along with Levy in the interests of the team and club. But they've only just moved stadiums and there's already talk of dissatisfaction.
In short, the ridiculously tight wage structure created by Levy is causing issues for him now.
-----------------------------------------------
The problem for a club like Tottenham, who don't have anywhere near the capital we had at the time of our move, is how do they manage to convince their players to stay there and waste their career at a club going through a transition? They haven't been historical successfully, in terms of career achievements Wenger is on a different level to Poch and, I forgot to mention this earlier, it's very unlikely that Spurs consistently make CL spot under these conditions, which is important for key players.
Very tough times ahead for them.
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I don't disagree with what they say here.
HOWEVER what they've all neglected to say is it ain't gonna be them that replaces us if we do drop out. They're fucked and their stadium is finished and paid for.
Their coach is way last his best and they're unlikely to ever replicate the consistent champions league qualifications they did. They even admitted there's more competition than ever, that's competition for them too!
goughie1966
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Arsemania view on our Sanchez signing
This guy is a CB right? Or can he play at fullback too?
he is a CB, a top top top level prospect, but he is that, just a prospect.
Suppose learning from Vertonghen and Alderweireld isn't bad for a young prospect. Another Ajax CB too.
i rate both of them very very highly, they formed the pairing of the season...
Poch got together belgium CB pairing thats a very clever movement from him, adding this kid to the equation only makes them stronger.
Poch is an inteligent dude, he knew that his best signing he could made was not to lose anyone and he only sold a RB, for big money. If he can keep Eriksen Kane Alli and Dembele together with that CB pairing and Lloris on goal he is without a doubt a title contender.
They'll play a Back 3. This guy is way too good to be on the bench.
they are probably the only team in the league that can keep on playing 2 at the back due to waynama dier sissoko and dembele, they offer great balance.
plus he plays a Son if they need energy and availability.
poch has something we do not like and it is the "technical fault" to cut off opposition transitions in the middle of the park in order to not losing balance, we dont do that because we are way too fru-fru to play that sort of game. his teams take big advantage of it in order to stop quick transitions, so they received the least counterattacking damage thanks to foulting opposition when the team is too high up on the field.
they are going to move to a back 3, they have 2 players in the belgiums that can operate as left and right defenders.
only problem poch team can have is rotation due to CL football because they dont have much depth.
Because Spurs really need a better defence...
Meanwhile back here at Arsenal, our defence & midfield is... FML.
So Spurs already have two of the leagues best CB's and are now close to signing one of Europe's top CB prospects? Meanwhile, we're selling Gabriel so we can rely heavily on a semi retired Mertesacker and a 32 year old full back (Monreal) playing CB for us next season? Wonderful stuff
My understanding is that Aldeweireld is due to reach the last 24 months of his contract next summer. I suspect that Spurs won't be able to hold onto him beyond then...
And an Ajax fan whose 2nd team is Arsenal:
I feel gutted, for so many reasons. Everything is going horribly wrong. From losing the Europa League final to Anti-football Mourinho, to losing manager Bosz to Dortmund, who had everybody enjoying Ajax football like the old days, to losing Appie Nouri to heart failure and brain damage, to losing the CL qualifiers to Nice because of highlightreel fraud Seri to now losing Davinson Sanchez.
And its not even the worst part, losing him. Its losing him to Sp*rs. I don't rate Eredivisie footballers. For every Eriksen there are 10 Vincent Janssen level players. But Davinson Sanchez is good, a kind of defender we haven't seen in the eredivisie for years. He makes defending fun, he's made for BPL football. Why does it have to be at Spurs? Why do my favorite Ajax players go to fecking Sp*rs? Bergkamp, Overmars are in key positions at Ajax and they go to ****ing Spurs.
he is a CB, a top top top level prospect, but he is that, just a prospect.
Suppose learning from Vertonghen and Alderweireld isn't bad for a young prospect. Another Ajax CB too.
i rate both of them very very highly, they formed the pairing of the season...
Poch got together belgium CB pairing thats a very clever movement from him, adding this kid to the equation only makes them stronger.
Poch is an inteligent dude, he knew that his best signing he could made was not to lose anyone and he only sold a RB, for big money. If he can keep Eriksen Kane Alli and Dembele together with that CB pairing and Lloris on goal he is without a doubt a title contender.
They'll play a Back 3. This guy is way too good to be on the bench.
they are probably the only team in the league that can keep on playing 2 at the back due to waynama dier sissoko and dembele, they offer great balance.
plus he plays a Son if they need energy and availability.
poch has something we do not like and it is the "technical fault" to cut off opposition transitions in the middle of the park in order to not losing balance, we dont do that because we are way too fru-fru to play that sort of game. his teams take big advantage of it in order to stop quick transitions, so they received the least counterattacking damage thanks to foulting opposition when the team is too high up on the field.
they are going to move to a back 3, they have 2 players in the belgiums that can operate as left and right defenders.
only problem poch team can have is rotation due to CL football because they dont have much depth.
Because Spurs really need a better defence...
Meanwhile back here at Arsenal, our defence & midfield is... FML.
So Spurs already have two of the leagues best CB's and are now close to signing one of Europe's top CB prospects? Meanwhile, we're selling Gabriel so we can rely heavily on a semi retired Mertesacker and a 32 year old full back (Monreal) playing CB for us next season? Wonderful stuff
My understanding is that Aldeweireld is due to reach the last 24 months of his contract next summer. I suspect that Spurs won't be able to hold onto him beyond then...
And an Ajax fan whose 2nd team is Arsenal:
I feel gutted, for so many reasons. Everything is going horribly wrong. From losing the Europa League final to Anti-football Mourinho, to losing manager Bosz to Dortmund, who had everybody enjoying Ajax football like the old days, to losing Appie Nouri to heart failure and brain damage, to losing the CL qualifiers to Nice because of highlightreel fraud Seri to now losing Davinson Sanchez.
And its not even the worst part, losing him. Its losing him to Sp*rs. I don't rate Eredivisie footballers. For every Eriksen there are 10 Vincent Janssen level players. But Davinson Sanchez is good, a kind of defender we haven't seen in the eredivisie for years. He makes defending fun, he's made for BPL football. Why does it have to be at Spurs? Why do my favorite Ajax players go to fecking Sp*rs? Bergkamp, Overmars are in key positions at Ajax and they go to ****ing Spurs.
Gaz_Gammon
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Because spending a gazillion to keep two players at the Club who'd rather play at Rochdale makes so much sense.
What a complete pillock.
absolute bobbins
Am Yisrael Chai
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I just want to drink his tearsArsemania view on our Sanchez signing
This guy is a CB right? Or can he play at fullback too?
he is a CB, a top top top level prospect, but he is that, just a prospect.
Suppose learning from Vertonghen and Alderweireld isn't bad for a young prospect. Another Ajax CB too.
i rate both of them very very highly, they formed the pairing of the season...
Poch got together belgium CB pairing thats a very clever movement from him, adding this kid to the equation only makes them stronger.
Poch is an inteligent dude, he knew that his best signing he could made was not to lose anyone and he only sold a RB, for big money. If he can keep Eriksen Kane Alli and Dembele together with that CB pairing and Lloris on goal he is without a doubt a title contender.
They'll play a Back 3. This guy is way too good to be on the bench.
they are probably the only team in the league that can keep on playing 2 at the back due to waynama dier sissoko and dembele, they offer great balance.
plus he plays a Son if they need energy and availability.
poch has something we do not like and it is the "technical fault" to cut off opposition transitions in the middle of the park in order to not losing balance, we dont do that because we are way too fru-fru to play that sort of game. his teams take big advantage of it in order to stop quick transitions, so they received the least counterattacking damage thanks to foulting opposition when the team is too high up on the field.
they are going to move to a back 3, they have 2 players in the belgiums that can operate as left and right defenders.
only problem poch team can have is rotation due to CL football because they dont have much depth.
Because Spurs really need a better defence...
Meanwhile back here at Arsenal, our defence & midfield is... FML.
So Spurs already have two of the leagues best CB's and are now close to signing one of Europe's top CB prospects? Meanwhile, we're selling Gabriel so we can rely heavily on a semi retired Mertesacker and a 32 year old full back (Monreal) playing CB for us next season? Wonderful stuff
My understanding is that Aldeweireld is due to reach the last 24 months of his contract next summer. I suspect that Spurs won't be able to hold onto him beyond then...
And an Ajax fan whose 2nd team is Arsenal:
I feel gutted, for so many reasons. Everything is going horribly wrong. From losing the Europa League final to Anti-football Mourinho, to losing manager Bosz to Dortmund, who had everybody enjoying Ajax football like the old days, to losing Appie Nouri to heart failure and brain damage, to losing the CL qualifiers to Nice because of highlightreel fraud Seri to now losing Davinson Sanchez.
And its not even the worst part, losing him. Its losing him to Sp*rs. I don't rate Eredivisie footballers. For every Eriksen there are 10 Vincent Janssen level players. But Davinson Sanchez is good, a kind of defender we haven't seen in the eredivisie for years. He makes defending fun, he's made for BPL football. Why does it have to be at Spurs? Why do my favorite Ajax players go to fecking Sp*rs? Bergkamp, Overmars are in key positions at Ajax and they go to ****ing Spurs.
Don_Felipe
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- Feb 8, 2004
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Arsemania:
They haven't been historical successfully, in terms of career achievements Wenger is on a different level to Poch and, I forgot to mention this earlier, it's very unlikely that Spurs consistently make CL spot under these conditions, which is important for key players.
Very tough times ahead for them.
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Does that mean wearing a 17th century wig without problems?
I think we have been successful historically though...
goughie1966
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West Ham's take on the Sanchez signing. Staggeringly some think it is an opportunity for them to buy Dier.
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Eric dier won't get a look in at spurs now Sanchez signed,World Cup year needs to play.cost maybe £5-10m more than Carvalho.If you don't try you'll never know.Who'd have thought matic would go to united
You think Levy would actually let us pay market value for Eric Dier? After we told him the cost for Kouyate was Harry Kane?
Why would signing a CB mean a DM wouldn't get a look in?
Dier is behind wanyama and now 4th choice CB.suppose he will get some game time with rotation but doesn't get in 343 set up now and I'd say his only realistic top 6 move now would be Liverpool.very unlikely agreed,but if we were prepared to pay I'd say there would be a chance in World Cup year.
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Eric dier won't get a look in at spurs now Sanchez signed,World Cup year needs to play.cost maybe £5-10m more than Carvalho.If you don't try you'll never know.Who'd have thought matic would go to united
You think Levy would actually let us pay market value for Eric Dier? After we told him the cost for Kouyate was Harry Kane?
Why would signing a CB mean a DM wouldn't get a look in?
Dier is behind wanyama and now 4th choice CB.suppose he will get some game time with rotation but doesn't get in 343 set up now and I'd say his only realistic top 6 move now would be Liverpool.very unlikely agreed,but if we were prepared to pay I'd say there would be a chance in World Cup year.
mark87
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This is ridiculous even for them.
Woland
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Colonel_Klinck
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Sanchez could be a long term Toby replacement. If he doesn't sign a new deal soon we will have to sell. Be interesting to see if he is put straight into the match day squad. Dier would be the obvious one to miss out if Poch does plan to play him in the in a back 3.
Lilbaz
Just call me Baz
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Toby has 2 years plus a years extension if we want. We don't need to sell at all.
Lilbaz
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redcafe:
Generous
I had one on another forum. Said that they probably wouldn't sell martial to us as they wouldn't sell to a rival. He found it hillarious that i considered us rivals. Forget the fact that we finished above them the last couple of seasons.
Fans of other teams just said to him that he belonged on rawk.
Colonel_Klinck
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I don't mean this season but if he still hasn't signed by next summer we'll be left with little choice. I'm really hoping he puts pen to paper as he's irreplaceable imo.
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