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What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18
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He actually looks like he's going to cry.
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Arsemania - Nice to see we're causing them to fight amongst themselves on their own forum 
Even we won at Swansea this season, no achievement here (this is the administrator on the forum)
"Delusional."
Point taken - beating the 18th placed team away from home by two goals is a remarkable achievement.
"Point taken. The financial rewards for being good at football are very minor, therefore there's no competition to be good at football. Also, being a good team has nothing to do with consistency and should be evaluated on a game by game basis. Mentality and will to win under pressure are also irrelevant.
Swansea can never play football well, they just ended up in the Premier League by random chance and they've never beaten a good team. They aren't fit to lace the boots of Ludogorets and this entire forum wasn't creaming their pants when that less time-pressured comeback win was achieved. No top teams ever drop points to teams who are 18th or below at a specified point during the season.
Gaining a high position in the Premier League is easy and just about anyone could round up a few people from a pub and get them there. Straw man arguments are very informative in debating football and aren't the sign of delusional, irrational, biased thinking."
What are you even talking about? I've commented on a single game and nothing else, no need for that passive-aggressive butthurtness of yours. You want unbiased opinions in life? Good luck with finding them, especially on a Football board.
I'm talking about your bad opinion.
I wasn't butthurt or passive aggressive. I told you that I think your opinion is delusional and you were the one who got butthurt and passive-aggressive by trying to pretend that a very good comeback win with 2 minutes of normal time remaining wasn't an achievement on the arbitrary basis that Swansea haven't had a great season and lost to Arsenal.
I pointed out that I disagree and gave a number of reasons why. I don't see anybody comparing them to the Man Utd's treble winning side or the Invincibles, but a good comeback win is an achievement, especially in the context of a very good season and a team that has bottled on many occasions. Anyone who says it isn't is being deluded and I proved that above. At least you've basically almost admitted that your claim was based on bias.
You can praise them all you like, but a team that's sitting in second place for large parts of the season is expected to win away at a side battling relegation, period.
You could make a case for why they even got into the position of being 1-0 down until the 88th minute, but you decide to praise them for what they made of it in the end - fair enough. I just don't see it as that big an achievement.
Whether that opinion is "bad" in your eyes doesn't bother me to be honest. What bothers me more is posters like you who start a debate by posting a single word, and then throw out essays trying to claim the moral high ground.
For a start - them being (very clear) second in the table in the first place is a minor miracle which was almost unthinkable as recently as early last season. Only one team in the league doesn't envy them that, including numerous teams with bigger budgets and less games to play.
Indeed they are expected to win the game. If you strip context entirely away from a situation, then you can reach the conclusion you want to reach. We all know it was a very good achievement in context. Winning games against lower opposition in this league is often very hard. Chelsea lost at home to Palace. Let alone at 1-0 down with 88 minutes on the clock, without a top striker, left-back, goalkeeper and midfielder from the first 11.
I call an opinion bad if it seems to be based on bias rather than evidence and reasoning, and yes I do think it's possible to discuss football rationally, without bias - it's even possible for someone to say that Spurs are, as they clearly are, a very good football team and not be instantly accused of supporting them. That's what's so annoying about that rubbish - the idea that opinions on football cannot be independent of bias.
Your point on my one word post is probably fair but I called it as I saw it and didn't see much need to elaborate. Let's just be honest though. It was a bloody good win and any other opinion is deluded I'm afraid.
Mate, you made some good points so just leave it there. No need to call other opinion "deluded"or whathaveyou.... By doing so, yo just add some unwanted toxicity to the debate. Totally uncalled for!
Even we won at Swansea this season, no achievement here (this is the administrator on the forum)
"Delusional."
Point taken - beating the 18th placed team away from home by two goals is a remarkable achievement.
"Point taken. The financial rewards for being good at football are very minor, therefore there's no competition to be good at football. Also, being a good team has nothing to do with consistency and should be evaluated on a game by game basis. Mentality and will to win under pressure are also irrelevant.
Swansea can never play football well, they just ended up in the Premier League by random chance and they've never beaten a good team. They aren't fit to lace the boots of Ludogorets and this entire forum wasn't creaming their pants when that less time-pressured comeback win was achieved. No top teams ever drop points to teams who are 18th or below at a specified point during the season.
Gaining a high position in the Premier League is easy and just about anyone could round up a few people from a pub and get them there. Straw man arguments are very informative in debating football and aren't the sign of delusional, irrational, biased thinking."
What are you even talking about? I've commented on a single game and nothing else, no need for that passive-aggressive butthurtness of yours. You want unbiased opinions in life? Good luck with finding them, especially on a Football board.
I'm talking about your bad opinion.
I wasn't butthurt or passive aggressive. I told you that I think your opinion is delusional and you were the one who got butthurt and passive-aggressive by trying to pretend that a very good comeback win with 2 minutes of normal time remaining wasn't an achievement on the arbitrary basis that Swansea haven't had a great season and lost to Arsenal.
I pointed out that I disagree and gave a number of reasons why. I don't see anybody comparing them to the Man Utd's treble winning side or the Invincibles, but a good comeback win is an achievement, especially in the context of a very good season and a team that has bottled on many occasions. Anyone who says it isn't is being deluded and I proved that above. At least you've basically almost admitted that your claim was based on bias.
You can praise them all you like, but a team that's sitting in second place for large parts of the season is expected to win away at a side battling relegation, period.
You could make a case for why they even got into the position of being 1-0 down until the 88th minute, but you decide to praise them for what they made of it in the end - fair enough. I just don't see it as that big an achievement.
Whether that opinion is "bad" in your eyes doesn't bother me to be honest. What bothers me more is posters like you who start a debate by posting a single word, and then throw out essays trying to claim the moral high ground.
For a start - them being (very clear) second in the table in the first place is a minor miracle which was almost unthinkable as recently as early last season. Only one team in the league doesn't envy them that, including numerous teams with bigger budgets and less games to play.
Indeed they are expected to win the game. If you strip context entirely away from a situation, then you can reach the conclusion you want to reach. We all know it was a very good achievement in context. Winning games against lower opposition in this league is often very hard. Chelsea lost at home to Palace. Let alone at 1-0 down with 88 minutes on the clock, without a top striker, left-back, goalkeeper and midfielder from the first 11.
I call an opinion bad if it seems to be based on bias rather than evidence and reasoning, and yes I do think it's possible to discuss football rationally, without bias - it's even possible for someone to say that Spurs are, as they clearly are, a very good football team and not be instantly accused of supporting them. That's what's so annoying about that rubbish - the idea that opinions on football cannot be independent of bias.
Your point on my one word post is probably fair but I called it as I saw it and didn't see much need to elaborate. Let's just be honest though. It was a bloody good win and any other opinion is deluded I'm afraid.
Mate, you made some good points so just leave it there. No need to call other opinion "deluded"or whathaveyou.... By doing so, yo just add some unwanted toxicity to the debate. Totally uncalled for!
WiganSpur
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This is true but if they lose one and we capitalise, bringing the gap down to say 4, then suddenly the pressure is on and the football may not quite be so relaxed. Football is a funny game.
You sure it wasn't a sheep?
It's worrying, Alli will be looking at that thinking WTF!
ljinko888
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We have him secured to 2021 - the club hold the aces.
Arsemania - Nice to see we're causing them to fight amongst themselves on their own forum
Even we won at Swansea this season, no achievement here (this is the administrator on the forum)
"Delusional."
Point taken - beating the 18th placed team away from home by two goals is a remarkable achievement.
"Point taken. The financial rewards for being good at football are very minor, therefore there's no competition to be good at football. Also, being a good team has nothing to do with consistency and should be evaluated on a game by game basis. Mentality and will to win under pressure are also irrelevant.
Swansea can never play football well, they just ended up in the Premier League by random chance and they've never beaten a good team. They aren't fit to lace the boots of Ludogorets and this entire forum wasn't creaming their pants when that less time-pressured comeback win was achieved. No top teams ever drop points to teams who are 18th or below at a specified point during the season.
Gaining a high position in the Premier League is easy and just about anyone could round up a few people from a pub and get them there. Straw man arguments are very informative in debating football and aren't the sign of delusional, irrational, biased thinking."
What are you even talking about? I've commented on a single game and nothing else, no need for that passive-aggressive butthurtness of yours. You want unbiased opinions in life? Good luck with finding them, especially on a Football board.
I'm talking about your bad opinion.
I wasn't butthurt or passive aggressive. I told you that I think your opinion is delusional and you were the one who got butthurt and passive-aggressive by trying to pretend that a very good comeback win with 2 minutes of normal time remaining wasn't an achievement on the arbitrary basis that Swansea haven't had a great season and lost to Arsenal.
I pointed out that I disagree and gave a number of reasons why. I don't see anybody comparing them to the Man Utd's treble winning side or the Invincibles, but a good comeback win is an achievement, especially in the context of a very good season and a team that has bottled on many occasions. Anyone who says it isn't is being deluded and I proved that above. At least you've basically almost admitted that your claim was based on bias.
You can praise them all you like, but a team that's sitting in second place for large parts of the season is expected to win away at a side battling relegation, period.
You could make a case for why they even got into the position of being 1-0 down until the 88th minute, but you decide to praise them for what they made of it in the end - fair enough. I just don't see it as that big an achievement.
Whether that opinion is "bad" in your eyes doesn't bother me to be honest. What bothers me more is posters like you who start a debate by posting a single word, and then throw out essays trying to claim the moral high ground.
For a start - them being (very clear) second in the table in the first place is a minor miracle which was almost unthinkable as recently as early last season. Only one team in the league doesn't envy them that, including numerous teams with bigger budgets and less games to play.
Indeed they are expected to win the game. If you strip context entirely away from a situation, then you can reach the conclusion you want to reach. We all know it was a very good achievement in context. Winning games against lower opposition in this league is often very hard. Chelsea lost at home to Palace. Let alone at 1-0 down with 88 minutes on the clock, without a top striker, left-back, goalkeeper and midfielder from the first 11.
I call an opinion bad if it seems to be based on bias rather than evidence and reasoning, and yes I do think it's possible to discuss football rationally, without bias - it's even possible for someone to say that Spurs are, as they clearly are, a very good football team and not be instantly accused of supporting them. That's what's so annoying about that rubbish - the idea that opinions on football cannot be independent of bias.
Your point on my one word post is probably fair but I called it as I saw it and didn't see much need to elaborate. Let's just be honest though. It was a bloody good win and any other opinion is deluded I'm afraid.
Mate, you made some good points so just leave it there. No need to call other opinion "deluded"or whathaveyou.... By doing so, yo just add some unwanted toxicity to the debate. Totally uncalled for!
The person in blue is being pretty reasonable, which is quite rare when it comes to football, even for reasonable people.
So credit where credit's due. I would find it hard to ackowledge the achievement if it were Arsenal instead of Tottenham.
But he's the Royal flush
Cornpattbuck
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Bit weird how many people have appeared on SC tonight worrying about Lingard getting paid so much. There's Chelsea youth players getting paid as much as some of our first teamers! It is what it is. Fuck em.
Didn't they stop that? I thought they had capped their youth players to 5k a week? That's disgusting
davidmatzdorf
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Alli may also be thinking "playing for Spurs, I get selected for England and get to play international matches with my friends.
I found this gem (watford fan), no idea if this is tongue in cheek?
"Spurs are certainly just getting lucky this season, they don't play good football (hoof it up to that donkey Kane at every opportunity), they're dirty and their fans are as thick as dung. Frankly, if we want to be a consistent mid table side we should be beating teams like Spurs, West Brom, Stoke etc, they are our closest rivals for that area of the league. I think Spurs will make it a scrappy affair as usual and just try to stop the better team playing. I'd take a draw for that reason but I'd really like to see us go for the win, we're better than them with or without all the players reportedly injured."
"Spurs are certainly just getting lucky this season, they don't play good football (hoof it up to that donkey Kane at every opportunity), they're dirty and their fans are as thick as dung. Frankly, if we want to be a consistent mid table side we should be beating teams like Spurs, West Brom, Stoke etc, they are our closest rivals for that area of the league. I think Spurs will make it a scrappy affair as usual and just try to stop the better team playing. I'd take a draw for that reason but I'd really like to see us go for the win, we're better than them with or without all the players reportedly injured."
Cornpattbuck
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He clearly murders people on his days off. That's one psychopathic Mafioso looking motherfucker.
hugrr
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Tbf this is Watford we're up against, I'd be ecstatic if we can just manage to hang on to our unbeaten home run.
I think someone should try to find that Watford fan so they can take away the sharp objects.
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guiltyparty
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Got to be trying to be funny no? Otherwise every single word is incorrect and that just seems unlikely, even for a Watford fan
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