Tottenham throw weight behind Pochettino with plans to overhaul squad & staff

[myhartlane]

Personally the new stadium is the biggest worry to me.

If we do end up in a 56k capacity stadium its a signal that we have given up on returning to be the top Club in Britain.

That to me would be a big disappointment and a waste of waiting and supporting all these years in the belief we have held the thought of being the top Club again.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean

 

[shelfboy68]

Personally the new stadium is the biggest worry to me.

If we do end up in a 56k capacity stadium its a signal that we have given up on returning to be the top Club in Britain.

That to me would be a big disappointment and a waste of waiting and supporting all these years in the belief we have held the thought of being the top Club again.

But that is never going to happen mate is it We have the wrong owners/chairman for that, but by building a New stadium if it ever happens will allow us to stay in the top 6/7 as others will No doubt get New stadia.
Us being the top club in this country is something i have given up Long ago i suggest you do the same the landscape has changed and the chances of us being the top team is as likely as T-Rex roaming the Earth again.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

But that is never going to happen mate is it We have the wrong owners/chairman for that, but by building a New stadium if it ever happens will allow us to stay in the top 6/7 as others will No doubt get New stadia.
Us being the top club in this country is something i have given up Long ago i suggest you do the same the landscape has changed and the chances of us being the top team is as likely as T-Rex roaming the Earth again.

Well you see it seems we have to move out of Tottenham to have any chance of getting a stadium big enough to compete. There was a time when we had the biggest gates attendances in England.

 

[Paolo10]

The squad needs an overhaul? This is hardly fucking news!

The BOARD needs an overhaul.

 

[eViL]

Well you see it seems we have to move out of Tottenham to have any chance of getting a stadium big enough to compete. There was a time when we had the biggest gates attendances in England.

If you think we're going to fill 80,000 seats you are dreaming.

 

[shelfboy68]

Well you see it seems we have to move out of Tottenham to have any chance of getting a stadium big enough to compete. There was a time when we had the biggest gates attendances in England.

I know that i went back in the day when we had big crowds as a yougster and your even older than me so you would have see more.
I still think the 56,000 isnt big enough but with the prices we charge that will make up the short fall.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

If you think we're going to fill 80,000 seats you are dreaming.

Who said 80k ?

Manure are 75k and were smaller than us.

Arsenal 60k and were smaller than us.

If we don't aim to at least match the Arse with potential for more then it's time to pick up our tents.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I know that i went back in the day when we had big crowds as a yougster and your even older than me so you would have see more.
I still think the 56,000 isnt big enough but with the prices we charge that will make up the short fall.

56,000 stadium will definitely big enough if we continue to play the same turgid shite that is in evidence for the last two years.

 

[eddiebailey]

And I expect they feel that way about every case they lose. Because they wouldn't attempt to prosecute unless they thought they had a case. The problem is the HMRC (as with most public bodies run by civil servants) is an absolute disgrace of incompetence so I am not at all shocked that they f*cked it up.

The cases they cock-up tend to get thrown out. This was a solid enough case. It is just very difficult to get a guilty verdict where a public figure is concerned; juries tend to give the benefit of the doubt to someone they feel they 'know'.

 

[vigospur]

Us being the top club in this country is something i have given up Long ago i suggest you do the same the landscape has changed and the chances of us being the top team is as likely as T-Rex roaming the Earth again.

No going back to the 1970s I am afraid.

 

[SpurSince57]

Well you see it seems we have to move out of Tottenham to have any chance of getting a stadium big enough to compete. There was a time when we had the biggest gates attendances in England.

Yes, in 60-61. The average gate then was 54,405. Capacity was 65,000+, but we only achieved 60,000+ on six occasions out of 21. In subsequent seasons attendances dropped off markedly.

If we couldn't regularly fill the stadum in our most successful era, when ticket prices were a few shillings and you could just turn up on the afternoon and get in, we aren't going to do it now. Do some people really think that Levy's number-crunching wonks haven't spent many hours with their spreadsheets feeding in a mass of data to come up with an optimum figure?

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Yes, in 60-61. The average gate then was 54,405. Capacity was 65,000+, but we only achieved 60,000+ on six occasions out of 21. In subsequent seasons attendances dropped off markedly.

If we couldn't regularly fill the stadum in our most successful era, when ticket prices were a few shillings and you could just turn up on the afternoon and get in, we aren't going to do it now. Do some people really think that Levy's number-crunching wonks haven't spent many hours with their spreadsheets feeding in a mass of data to come up with an optimum figure?

Although I agree with all of that, it's worth bearing in mind that the 'optimum figure' may be more than the 56,250 capacity of the proposed stadium, because the capacity was limited by the transport considerations and other strictures of the site.

 

[shelfboy68]

56,000 stadium will definitely big enough if we continue to play the same turgid shite that is in evidence for the last two years.

I suppose thats true.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Yes, in 60-61. The average gate then was 54,405. Capacity was 65,000+, but we only achieved 60,000+ on six occasions out of 21. In subsequent seasons attendances dropped off markedly.

If we couldn't regularly fill the stadum in our most successful era, when ticket prices were a few shillings and you could just turn up on the afternoon and get in, we aren't going to do it now. Do some people really think that Levy's number-crunching wonks haven't spent many hours with their spreadsheets feeding in a mass of data to come up with an optimum figure?

My point is that back then and further back than that we had gates bigger than the Arse and Manure and we should be aiming as high as them now if we are to catch them.

 

[Mullers]

No game is easy in the Prem. And going down to ten means teams keep their shape by going 4 4 1.

We usually collapse like a deck of cards when we go down to ten men.

 

[Blockbuster]

This is interesting...sure its been posted elsewhere.....

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/s...ce_between_a_head_coach_and_manager_1_3861711

seems like the same ole rubbish before we hired Harry....

 

[Ginolas_Hair]

If you're right that Reed was appointed in 09-10, then he and his systems are clearly NOT responsible for all the youngsters who have come through in the last 2-3 years who would all have been at the club long before Reed was.

Firstly, yes - Les Reed was appointed in 2009/10

Secondly, I wasn't saying that Reed was wholly responsible for scouting the young players we see today as I imagine that was the scout's job role.

My point is that, I believe, the fixed European structure at Soton with Les Reed at the helm since 2010 has allowed a healthy mixture of suitable players - whether academy and other players (purchased or existing) - to be incorporated into the team which a manager or coach can use for their particular system.

With Spurs, the changes in structure which started with Santini, removed under 'Arry and re-instated under AvB and others with different personnel each time - will be detrimental.

 

[SpurSince57]

My point is that back then and further back than that we had gates bigger than the Arse and Manure and we should be aiming as high as them now if we are to catch them.

Well here are some detailed figures that you can analyse to your heart's content instead of just guessing:

http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/toth.htm

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/arse.htm

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/manu.htm

The projected capacity of the new ground will only be slightly smaller than the Emirates, and it may be that we will be permitted to increase it to 60,000 as in the original plans. There ahave been constant ruours to this effect. I doubt that the there will be a significant difference in gate receipts between the two grounds in any case; it's the corporate sector that really brings in the money, not the average season ticket holders.

Even if there were room to build one, do you seriously think we could fill a 75,000-capacity stadium on a regular basis? Do you believe Levy's planners pulled the figure of 60,000 out of thin air?

 

[kaz Hirai]

This is interesting...sure its been posted elsewhere.....

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/s...ce_between_a_head_coach_and_manager_1_3861711

seems like the same ole rubbish before we hired Harry....

Already becoming bitter with the set up here. Few more transfer windows and he'll go insane like Andre and leave

 

[Sevens]

Already becoming bitter with the set up here. Few more transfer windows and he'll go insane like Andre and leave

The legacy of the Director of Football etc. It's often cited it's successful on the continent but when you dig deeper you find there is often tension and disagreements. The "Head Coach" tends to be the fall guy.

I can see the point in a Director of Football in terms of basically removing the administrative aspect of a Manager's role but I also believe the Director of Football shouldn't have any power over first team affairs. They basically should co-ordinate football activities.

Everyone loves to talk about "projects" nowadays. Well in reality a football is more like a Programme and it's the Manager that should be the Programme Manager with Project Managers (including the DoF) reporting into him. How the Manager then chooses to structure the rest of the hierarchy (e.g. Scouting, Youth Development reporting into him or DoF) should be up to the Manager.