Tottenham throw weight behind Pochettino with plans to overhaul squad & staff

[SteveH]

I followed the case very closely and the prosecution did a poor job of trying to convict him. If that was the best evidence they had against him they never really had a chance and I say that as someone who believes Harry is justifiably known by many as Bent Arry.

maybe It's not just us who came round to that way of thinking regarding H?

 

[TwanYid]

Totally agree - he has bounced from one poor appointment to another. Its why I think he was so keen on Harry staying before the court case and England debacle......think he signed AVB on the bounce. never a good idea

It's also never a good idea to try and one-up Abramovich. Poindexter's lost every battle with that guy, including AVB- a case where baldy tried to prove he could turn Roman's trash into treasure.

Man oh man Abramovich must've laughed about that one.

 

[LarryCatt]

It's also never a good idea to try and one-up Abramovich. Poindexter's lost every battle with that guy, including AVB- a case where baldy tried to prove he could turn Roman's trash into treasure.

Man oh man Abramovich must've laughed about that one.

Modric?

Didn't lose that

 

[Jonesey]

one day i hope the majority of our team is home grown. something like this

lloris
walker dier veljkovic rose
mason onomah bentaleb
lamela kane townsend​

It probably will be ... in the Championship the way we're going.

Minus Lloris, Walker, Lamela, Kane and Townsend of course, who all will have put in transfer requests during the summer.

 

[phil]

Agreed, it's all about business for him. However, the constant tinkering of the structure of the club from European to traditional back to European has impacted on stability.

I was reading an article about Paul Mitchell (if you're interested - http://www.theguardian.com/football...paul-mitchell-southampton-mauricio-pochettino) that I believe highlights how the constant changing of personnel at all levels at Spurs - whether it's a new manager, backroom staff, technical director or the tea lady - has clearly led to instability and the inability to cope with changes such as Chelsea poaching Arnesen or the selling of countless star players.

Levy has been a bit too reactive at times, showing little patience and hasn't put in place a structure for long enough that allows him to stick to his job role and allow others to do theirs. I'm not sure whether it's an power complex or the hiring of the inept.

But unless he allows some time to let a particular structure to fit and stay in place - the revolving door policy will continue.

So there is no mid to long-term because the new guy is in training or the transitional phase.

It doesn't help stability when a new manager brings in his own backroom staff as Harry and Poch did. It's natural that they would want to surround themselves with people they know but it does little for club stability. I know he worked closely with Sherwood, but I thought it was disappointing that we couldn't find a position for Chris Ramsey. LVG was happy to work with the existing United backroom staff but perhaps he has more self-confidence than Poch.

The great Liverpool created a dynasty by appointing managers from within the club. It went from Shankly to Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, Moran, Souness and Evans.

We all know that if Poch does go, then his backroom staff will go as well and there will further upheaval.

 

[Metalhead]

It probably will be ... in the Championship the way we're going.

Minus Lloris, Walker, Lamela, Kane and Townsend of course, who all will have put in transfer requests during the summer.

Don't panic Jonesey!

 

[Metalhead]

It doesn't help stability when a new manager brings in his own backroom staff as Harry and Poch did. It's natural that they would want to surround themselves with people they know but it does little for club stability. I know he worked closely with Sherwood, but I thought it was disappointing that we couldn't find a position for Chris Ramsey. LVG was happy to work with the existing United backroom staff but perhaps he has more self-confidence than Poch.

The great Liverpool created a dynasty by appointing managers from within the club. It went from Shankly to Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, Moran, Souness and Evans.

We all know that if Poch does go, then his backroom staff will go as well and there will further upheaval.

I have to say that I was surprised about Ramsey, particularly given that some on here gave more credit to him than Sherwood for the work done with the academy.

 

[Metalhead]

Oooh! I remember the Dear Leader's expression of support for Martin Jol back in 2007

Still, I'm glad that Pochettino's taking responsibility for the current shambles.

I guess the only thing is that his support for Poch is more tangible in that he is bringing in someone (i.e. Mitchell) that Poch has worked with before and clearly wants to be reunited with.

 

[Ginolas_Hair]

It doesn't help stability when a new manager brings in his own backroom staff as Harry and Poch did. It's natural that they would want to surround themselves with people they know but it does little for club stability. I know he worked closely with Sherwood, but I thought it was disappointing that we couldn't find a position for Chris Ramsey. LVG was happy to work with the existing United backroom staff but perhaps he has more self-confidence than Poch.

The great Liverpool created a dynasty by appointing managers from within the club. It went from Shankly to Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, Moran, Souness and Evans.

We all know that if Poch does go, then his backroom staff will go as well and there will further upheaval.

I agree that a manager will need some familiar faces within his backroom staff as those working relationships have been built and they directly impact (in theory) the on-field performances.

However, I think it's the instability of the other positions influenced by the changes in structure such as a director of football, development, scouting etc. that is creating some of the off-field issues such as adequate scouting and recruitment of players suitable to Poch's system (and managers before).

The article in my post states that Les Reed was appointed by Southampton and implemented a European structure back in 2009/10 - this led to the appointment of Mitchell and the building of their scouting network. This structure has remained a constant, Reed is still there without any tinkering and they have generated some fantastic players through their youth and scouting system which has benefited them.

FYI - I'm not using Soton as the shining example of how every club should be run but Poch certainly did well under that system and perhaps it's not just on-field where square pegs and round holes applies. Just my onion.

 

[SpurSince57]

I guess the only thing is that his support for Poch is more tangible in that he is bringing in someone (i.e. Mitchell) that Poch has worked with before and clearly wants to be reunited with.

And then you recall that Villas-Boas got his personal choice of Technical Director.

I'm sure Levy will back Pochettino for as long as possible, but an awful lot depends on the next nine.

 

[Metalhead]

And then you recall that Villas-Boas got his personal choice of Technical Director.

I'm sure Levy will back Pochettino for as long as possible, but an awful lot depends on the next nine.

Of course. The thing is that noone is ever safe in a managerial or head coach position. Obviously how far a chairman will be patient depends on more than one factor (past success/ability to deliver minimum targets: Arsene Wenger; personal relationship with the chairman: Alan Pardew) but I get the feeling that Levy does recognise that a certain measure of responsibility lies with himself over the failure of AVB's tenure. I don't know, perhaps I am burying my head in the sand, maybe I am just ridiculously optimistic (not a great trait to have as a Spurs fan I admit) but I just get the feeling that Levy really does intend to do everything in his power to try and help Poch to succeed.

 

[myhartlane]

Ro up, roll up to the Tottenham Circus. Take a ride on the merry-go-round.

Another overhaul, great. Where did the last one get us?

I'm not convinced that all this upheaval is particularly effective. I said the same in summer 2013 when most people were creaming themselves up about how much money we were going to spend (ie, how much upheaval the club was going to endure).

I think what we need is an experienced and proven winner in the squad to galvanise the talent that we have.

If we make big squad changes again, we'll be in the same position in a couple of seasons, I'll put money on it.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Bent Arry ? Best kind of guy to know.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Maybe Poch is a nice easy guy to manage (comparatively). Therefore Levy will throw support at him.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Personally the new stadium is the biggest worry to me.

If we do end up in a 56k capacity stadium its a signal that we have given up on returning to be the top Club in Britain.

That to me would be a big disappointment and a waste of waiting and supporting all these years in the belief we have held the thought of being the top Club again.

 

[sim0n]

we saw the squad evolve yesterday. they looked better with capoue and kaboul not in the squad. interesting bench with ceballos and ball there.... commentator said during the match that kaboul was left out for "personal" reasons?... does anyone have some detail on that? clearly capoue was left out for poor performance with no explanation needed - weird situation with captain kaboul though...

perhaps the armband is too heavy for him?

 

[HotspurFC1950]

we saw the squad evolve yesterday. they looked better with capoue and kaboul not in the squad. interesting bench with ceballos and ball there.... commentator said during the match that kaboul was left out for "personal" reasons?... does anyone have some detail on that? clearly capoue was left out for poor performance with no explanation needed - weird situation with captain kaboul though...

perhaps the armband is too heavy for him?

Forgot his boots.

 

[Black]

we saw the squad evolve yesterday. they looked better with capoue and kaboul not in the squad. interesting bench with ceballos and ball there.... commentator said during the match that kaboul was left out for "personal" reasons?... does anyone have some detail on that? clearly capoue was left out for poor performance with no explanation needed - weird situation with captain kaboul though...

perhaps the armband is too heavy for him?

We just about beat a mid table team who were down to 10 men, just papered over the cracks two games in a row.

 

[philip]

I agree that a manager will need some familiar faces within his backroom staff as those working relationships have been built and they directly impact (in theory) the on-field performances.

However, I think it's the instability of the other positions influenced by the changes in structure such as a director of football, development, scouting etc. that is creating some of the off-field issues such as adequate scouting and recruitment of players suitable to Poch's system (and managers before).

The article in my post states that Les Reed was appointed by Southampton and implemented a European structure back in 2009/10 - this led to the appointment of Mitchell and the building of their scouting network. This structure has remained a constant, Reed is still there without any tinkering and they have generated some fantastic players through their youth and scouting system which has benefited them.

FYI - I'm not using Soton as the shining example of how every club should be run but Poch certainly did well under that system and perhaps it's not just on-field where square pegs and round holes applies. Just my onion.

If you're right that Reed was appointed in 09-10, then he and his systems are clearly NOT responsible for all the youngsters who have come through in the last 2-3 years who would all have been at the club long before Reed was.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

We just about beat a mid table team who were down to 10 men, just papered over the cracks two games in a row.

No game is easy in the Prem. And going down to ten means teams keep their shape by going 4 4 1.