Tom Huddlestone

[Spurs_Bear]

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I FUCKING WANTED.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I remember one of his first games away at Man City when he crashed in that thunderbastard on the half volley, I thought he was MOTM that day although it was a long time ago...

yES i REMEMBER THAT ONE. wAS WEARING NUMBER 22. gREAT GOAL.

EDIT: Forgot to turn the bastard caps lock off there...

 

[kernowspur]

As BC has said Hudd's problem is consistency. He occasionally produces great passes and all too rarely great shots, but a lot of the time is a poor defender and passer. I for one cannot forget the sight of Fabregas running past him, from our kick-off, without any semblence of a challenge to score a second Arsenal goal.
Great that he played well when he came on yesterday, but he needs to show that he can do it regularly and so far, in seven years, he hasn't.

 

[SteveH]

As BC has said Hudd's problem is consistency. He occasionally produces great passes and all too rarely great shots, but a lot of the time is a poor defender and passer. I for one cannot forget the sight of Fabregas running past him, from our kick-off, without any semblence of a challenge to score a second Arsenal goal.
Great that he played well when he came on yesterday, but he needs to show that he can do it regularly and so far, in seven years, he hasn't.

Toms 'big' problem is his fitness.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

As BC has said Hudd's problem is consistency. He occasionally produces great passes and all too rarely great shots, but a lot of the time is a poor defender and passer. I for one cannot forget the sight of Fabregas running past him, from our kick-off, without any semblence of a challenge to score a second Arsenal goal.
Great that he played well when he came on yesterday, but he needs to show that he can do it regularly and so far, in seven years, he hasn't.

I also remember that genius/gambling addict Matty Etherington skinning him to score a wonder goal at the Britannia Stadium a few seasons back.

The guys deficiencies simply outweigh his positive attributes to such an extent that he weakens our side when played in the starting 11.

 

[StartingPrice]

Toms 'big' problem is his fitness.

Tom's fitness problem is his bigness

 

[SteveH]

Tom's fitness problem is his bigness

And the winner is StartingPrice thus the 'big'..........


EDIT Zidan?

EDIT 2 Tom H needs dance lessons.......

 

[penfold_99]

Tom has been an impressive impact sub, I think the rule avb has used to bring him on is if Parker start pirouetting.

Parker needs time to fine a pass so he spins to see who's open, Tom is able to find the pass quickly.

He links up our attack something that has been missing of late when ade is on the pitch.

Tom + Defoe = attack with teeth that doesn't rely on bale 100%.

 

[parklane1]

I also remember that genius/gambling addict Matty Etherington skinning him to score a wonder goal at the Britannia Stadium a few seasons back.

The guys deficiencies simply outweigh his positive attributes to such an extent that he weakens our side when played in the starting 11.

Without a doubt

 

[dimiSpur]

It would be unfair to suggest there have been no games where Huddlestone has been very good. He scored and played well at City years ago and his goal against Bolton at WHL was worthy of any MOTM award due to the stalemate that was unfolding. In any case, I think there's a time and a place for his introduction. There's no doubting his passing ability, but he doesn't possess the eye for a pass that would allow a player for his (lack of) mobility would need. Once pressured he can't really do much with it. When under pressure he does look like he's an internet stream where the sound is 2 seconds behind. But he is a very useful player when you dont really have any standout passers in your midfield, as we at Spurs dont. Maybe in a 4-3-3 where we have an extra man his mobility will be less of an issue, but ultimately I do think its crucial in any hopes of him being a regular fixture in any side that has top four aspirations.

People mention Carrick in terms of lack of mobility. Yes Carrick is slow, but he isn't AS slow. He also is a tremendously intelligent player that knows where to be 4 seconds before he needs to be, which makes up for that snail's pace. Hudd doesn't (yet at least) have that know-how.

An interesting point raised though is how he and Palacios were the central midfield that took us to a top four finish. In fact after Palacios' suspension, it was Hudd and Luka that beat Chelsea, Arsenal and City away. On the other hand football has evolved even in that short space of time and even Palacios and Crouch are laughable candidates for today's Spurs side whereas they started most games then.

It is a double-sided coin. I would play it by ear. You never know when a player might materialise into the player you've dreamt him becoming. Injuries he's sustained mean he hasn't had the time to mature as we'd have liked. I wouldn't get rid of him that's for sure as there are home games where he could be useful, especially holding in a 4-3-3 where a team is sitting back and he has the ability to switch play to the other wing alot quicker than the short passing alternative Dembele and Parker offer us presently.

It's ridiculous after 7 years really, but the jury's out!

 

[mpickard2087]

It would be unfair to suggest there have been no games where Huddlestone has been very good. He scored and played well at City years ago and his goal against Bolton at WHL was worthy of any MOTM award due to the stalemate that was unfolding. In any case, I think there's a time and a place for his introduction. There's no doubting his passing ability, but he doesn't possess the eye for a pass that would allow a player for his (lack of) mobility would need. Once pressured he can't really do much with it. When under pressure he does look like he's an internet stream where the sound is 2 seconds behind. But he is a very useful player when you dont really have any standout passers in your midfield, as we at Spurs dont. Maybe in a 4-3-3 where we have an extra man his mobility will be less of an issue, but ultimately I do think its crucial in any hopes of him being a regular fixture in any side that has top four aspirations.

People mention Carrick in terms of lack of mobility. Yes Carrick is slow, but he isn't AS slow. He also is a tremendously intelligent player that knows where to be 4 seconds before he needs to be, which makes up for that snail's pace. Hudd doesn't (yet at least) have that know-how.

An interesting point raised though is how he and Palacios were the central midfield that took us to a top four finish. In fact after Palacios' suspension, it was Hudd and Luka that beat Chelsea, Arsenal and City away. On the other hand football has evolved even in that short space of time and even Palacios and Crouch are laughable candidates for today's Spurs side whereas they started most games then.

It is a double-sided coin. I would play it by ear. You never know when a player might materialise into the player you've dreamt him becoming. Injuries he's sustained mean he hasn't had the time to mature as we'd have liked. I wouldn't get rid of him that's for sure as there are home games where he could be useful, especially holding in a 4-3-3 where a team is sitting back and he has the ability to switch play to the other wing alot quicker than the short passing alternative Dembele and Parker offer us presently.

It's ridiculous after 7 years really, but the jury's out!

I think this is a very good post dimiSpur. Pretty much sums up my opinions on the matter.

For the rest of you, particularly those in the pro-Hudd camp... He did well, he got praise. Conditions were favourable, its right to note that. Is he suddenly the saviour, has a long term future, and deserving of the fawning after two cameo appearances, no he is not. He's probably close to earning a start, particularly at home when the opposition will sit back, and it will be interesting to see if he can put together a run of games where he performs well. But lets not kid ourselves, he still has a fuck load to prove.

 

[Mr Pink]

I think this is a very good post dimiSpur. Pretty much sums up my opinions on the matter.

For the rest of you, particularly those in the pro-Hudd camp... He did well, he got praise. Conditions were favourable, its right to note that. Is he suddenly the saviour, has a long term future, and deserving of the fawning after two cameo appearances, no he is not. He's probably close to earning a start, particularly at home when the opposition will sit back, and it will be interesting to see if he can put together a run of games where he performs well. But lets not kid ourselves, he still has a fuck load to prove.

Absolutely nobody has branded him the saviour or messiah lol The pro camp would just like to see a bit more of him if AVB goes down the 4-3-3 route, and then we'll all be able to judge properly.

 

[mpickard2087]

Absolutely nobody has branded him the saviour or messiah lol The pro camp would just like to see a bit more of him if AVB goes down the 4-3-3 route, and then we'll all be able to judge properly.

Mate it has been a bit OTT from what I have seen and heard over the last 24 hours. Someone compared him to Xabi Alonso on here, and someone at work today said he has always thought Hudd is in the top 10 playmakers in the world, and he rated him more than Modric when they played together. No joke I swear.

 

[ShelfSide18]

Absolutely nobody has branded him the saviour or messiah lol The pro camp would just like to see a bit more of him if AVB goes down the 4-3-3 route, and then we'll all be able to judge properly.

I did see him likened to Andrea Pirlo on twitter recently...

 

[Mr Pink]

Mate it has been a bit OTT from what I have seen and heard over the last 24 hours. Someone compared him to Xabi Alonso on here, and someone at work today said he has always thought Hudd is in the top 10 playmakers in the world, and he rated him more than Modric when they played together. No joke I swear.

Well that's well OTT lol....

Wouldn't call that the pro camp though, more like the deluded one.

 

[daryl]

no its not mate!.. fans are different today at the lane!.. I like many don't go no more because of the fickle ****s that seem to infect the place nowadays.. cant remember the amount of times in my last season I got into it with day pass fans around me.
wrong thread for this.. sorry but has to be said.

YOU MISERABLE OLD GIT

 

[Mr Pink]

I did see him likened to Andrea Pirlo on twitter recently...

yeah, didn't have the balls to post it here...

 

[class of 62]

YOU MISERABLE OLD GIT

too fucking right fella when you young uns with glued hair & no bollocks cant
hack a song at football!
what really done it for me was not the insulting of players but the mid 20's tosser behind me in block 31
who asked me to sit down cause the ugly bird hanging on to him playing with her phone couldn't see

 

[only1waddle]

Regardless of what people think about Tommy, the bigger picture is that AVB will hopefully realise he can be more flexible with a style of player within his desired midfield. Hopefully playing a guy like Hudd will broaden (Hudd, Broaden, see what i did there) his outlook come the summer transfer window.. now the Moutinho and Willian ships have sailed i think he will focus more clearly on alternatives rather than obsessing over exact players..

 

[only1waddle]

I did see him likened to Andrea Pirlo on twitter recently...

We need a "Jesus fucking Christ" rating don't we?