The Race to the Title

[nightgoat]

So tv fixtures for penultimate games of the season announced and surprise surprise Leicester play before us yet again.

Sky are desperate for Leicester to win.

 

[tommo84]

Sky are desperate for Leicester to win.

Everyone besides Spurs fans (and the few Arsenal fans who haven't given up hope) is desperate for Leicester to win it.

What bothers me most about it is when people claim they want Leicester to win it "because they're a football fan" and other sanctimonious drivel. That's bollocks. The reason most people want Leicester to win it is because their own team is giving them little or no joy at present and they are therefore a) living vicariously through Leicester and b) cheering Leicester on in some half-baked hope that their own team can one day repeat the miracle and c) because they probably know lots of fans of the other contenders and it gives them great joy in seeing us/them fall short.

The irony is that the same fans of football league clubs who are cheering on Leicester for upsetting the odds (with their Thai billionaire owner) are the same fans of football league clubs who felt a huge amount of bitterness for Bournemouth last season when they were getting lauded for getting promoted against all the odds (with their Russian billionaire owner).

Leicester fans are welcome to of course revel in their impending glory and enjoy every moment of it, but the rest of the country can f*ck right off. Their (and I include the Sky pundits in this) bandwagon-jumping in the last 2 months after sneering and writing Leicester off along with everyone else right up until February is akin to glory-hunting, and I find it as irksome as the recent favourable decisions that have gone in Leicester's favour.

 

[rossdapep]

Why would that be? Chelsea would be so motivated to beat us so that they help Leicester City win.

Their fans would be, but do you honestly think their players care about that, or guus? They will want to leave on a high and may even want to make a point.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Maybe I'm a dinosaur, but I would much rather the Premiership champions were known and respected for playing good football, rather than just doing anything they can to get the three points at any cost, winning ugly.

It's pretty widely acknowledged that although Leicester may well become champions, they are far from being a wonderful advert for English football.

The way my brain works, there's winning pretty and there's winning ugly and I know which I'd prefer, but each to his own.

Yeah but hand on heart can you honestly say you'd rather us losing pretty rather than winning ugly?

And to be fair to Leicester, although they are now the 1-0 kings for the majority of the season they've been entertaining to watch. Certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the teams Mourinho put together to win titles for example.

 

[Wellspurs]

Everyone besides Spurs fans (and the few Arsenal fans who haven't given up hope) is desperate for Leicester to win it.

What bothers me most about it is when people claim they want Leicester to win it "because they're a football fan" and other sanctimonious drivel. That's bollocks. The reason most people want Leicester to win it is because their own team is giving them little or no joy at present and they are therefore a) living vicariously through Leicester and b) cheering Leicester on in some half-baked hope that their own team can one day repeat the miracle and c) because they probably know lots of fans of the other contenders and it gives them great joy in seeing us/them fall short.

The irony is that the same fans of football league clubs who are cheering on Leicester for upsetting the odds (with their Thai billionaire owner) are the same fans of football league clubs who felt a huge amount of bitterness for Bournemouth last season when they were getting lauded for getting promoted against all the odds (with their Russian billionaire owner).

Leicester fans are welcome to of course revel in their impending glory and enjoy every moment of it, but the rest of the country can f*ck right off. Their (and I include the Sky pundits in this) bandwagon-jumping in the last 2 months after sneering and writing Leicester off along with everyone else right up until February is akin to glory-hunting, and I find it as irksome as the recent favourable decisions that have gone in Leicester's favour.

Or everyone loves the underdog?

 

[worcestersauce]

Or everyone loves the underdog?

That's us now!

 

[jolsnogross]

Leicester have earned a decent margin for error. We have no room for dropped points from now on. I still see a glimmer of hope in goal difference and their remaining fixtures, but it is contingent on us getting 6 points from Man U and Stoke.

In some ways it might be liberating to have a week long break and no margin for error - we might come out against Man U like we did against Bournemouth. We also don't want to invite the chasing pack back to within a win of overtaking us.

You could see Leicester drawing with Sunderland...unlikely, but it's not like they're playing Villa or even Newcastle. Sunderland have drawn their last four and have Norwich after Leicester, so it's really last chance saloon for them. And you could see West Ham doing something against the Foxes too. If we manage to do our bit, then it becomes interesting again. But any slip ups from us and it wont matter if they drop all 6 points.

 

[cozzo]

How many points do we need to secure champions league football?

 

[THFCSPURS19]

How many points do we need to secure champions league football?

74 at the moment.

If we beat United, and West Ham don't win, then it becomes 71.

75 to secure automatic qualification ATM (assuming we have a higher goal difference).

 

[millsey]

Everyone besides Spurs fans (and the few Arsenal fans who haven't given up hope) is desperate for Leicester to win it.

What bothers me most about it is when people claim they want Leicester to win it "because they're a football fan" and other sanctimonious drivel. That's bollocks. The reason most people want Leicester to win it is because their own team is giving them little or no joy at present and they are therefore a) living vicariously through Leicester and b) cheering Leicester on in some half-baked hope that their own team can one day repeat the miracle and c) because they probably know lots of fans of the other contenders and it gives them great joy in seeing us/them fall short.

The irony is that the same fans of football league clubs who are cheering on Leicester for upsetting the odds (with their Thai billionaire owner) are the same fans of football league clubs who felt a huge amount of bitterness for Bournemouth last season when they were getting lauded for getting promoted against all the odds (with their Russian billionaire owner).

Leicester fans are welcome to of course revel in their impending glory and enjoy every moment of it, but the rest of the country can f*ck right off. Their (and I include the Sky pundits in this) bandwagon-jumping in the last 2 months after sneering and writing Leicester off along with everyone else right up until February is akin to glory-hunting, and I find it as irksome as the recent favourable decisions that have gone in Leicester's favour.

But if we were say mid table, we would all be supporting Leicster right? Or would you want Arsenal or Man city to win it?

 

[rossdapep]

Reason for optimism......

.......in 2011/12 Man United had taken a colossal 34 points from a possible 36 to put themselves 8 points ahead of Man City with just 6 games remaining. City themselves has been undone by a 1-0 defeat to Arsenal and EVERYBODY was writing them off.

Teams don't throw away a 8 point lead with little games remaining, especially when your manager is someone who is used to the chase and the lead, winning the battle more often than not. Surely that doesn't happen?

Well United them went on to lose two and draw one of their following 4 games, including a defeat to Wigan, who had lost something like 11 of 12 (needs checking), city were able to level up in this time and we all know how it finished.

Now United had only been beaten 3 times up until that point, just like Leicester now.

I'm convinced Leicester will drop points, can they really go the rest of the season unbeaten? Especially as their fixtures become tougher?

We need to believe in ourselves and keep waiting, it'll only take 2 bad results for this to blow wide open again.
Be.lieve.

 

[Japhet]

Yeah but hand on heart can you honestly say you'd rather us losing pretty rather than winning ugly?

And to be fair to Leicester, although they are now the 1-0 kings for the majority of the season they've been entertaining to watch. Certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the teams Mourinho put together to win titles for example.

The fact that they are known as 1-0 specialists tells me, above all, that they can keep a clean sheet. Success is built from the back.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Reason for optimism......

.......in 2011/12 Man United had taken a colossal 34 points from a possible 36 to put themselves 8 points ahead of Man City with just 6 games remaining. City themselves has been undone by a 1-0 defeat to Arsenal and EVERYBODY was writing them off.

Teams don't throw away a 8 point lead with little games remaining, especially when your manager is someone who is used to the chase and the lead, winning the battle more often than not. Surely that doesn't happen?

Well United them went on to lose two and draw one of their following 4 games, including a defeat to Wigan, who had lost something like 11 of 12 (needs checking), city were able to level up in this time and we all know how it finished.

Now United had only been beaten 3 times up until that point, just like Leicester now.

I'm convinced Leicester will drop points, can they really go the rest of the season unbeaten? Especially as their fixtures become tougher?

We need to believe in ourselves and keep waiting, it'll only take 2 bad results for this to blow wide open again.
Be.lieve.

Important to point out that City actually played United, reducing the gap. We don't have that opportunity (not that I think us losing to them at WHL was some sort of disastrous moment, but I'm not going through that again).

 

[rossdapep]

Important to point out that City actually played United, reducing the gap. We don't have that opportunity (not that I think us losing to them at WHL was some sort of disastrous moment, but I'm not going through that again).

I agree, that is true. However, they do have fixtures against plenty of teams who need a result for their own targets. Something I also think needs noting is that, if things pan out in a certain way, every team we face after United may have nothing to play for, I suppose Chelsea would want to beat us.

 

[shelfboy68]

I hope your not a regular visitor because with your support behind the team it would be enough to make them give up hope.

so as you know what's going to happen, please send me £2-£3 and the correct result, score and while your at it as your so knowledgeable, the 1st goal scorer please of each game

Some friendly advice when your having a bad month i recomend you use a heavy flow tampon it might help.
But anyhow for your info i will be at the lane sunday fully vocal behind the team as i have done for over forty years and hope that we beat Utd.
I also never said i knew it all but instead gave an opinion on an open forum bear in mind that i thought leicester have done enough to have the title in the bag.
I should of realised that an over reaction From someone very hormonal like you just because i can recognise that a rival team has done better than us thus far they even beat us at home for fucks sake, and in my opinion have probably won it.
Yes of course things can and have happened but in all honesty really can we see them falling apart now and having to lose either nearly as many games as they have lost so far this season or drop that amount of points, it just isnt going to happen so instead Im looking forward to next year in a positive light.

 

[tommo84]

But if we were say mid table, we would all be supporting Leicster right? Or would you want Arsenal or Man city to win it?

Probably - but because we'd all rather Leicester win it than Arsenal as they're our local rivals (reason (c) in my original post), not because of some noble cause.

 

[Lighty64]

Some friendly advice when your having a bad month i recomend you use a heavy flow tampon it might help.
But anyhow for your info i will be at the lane sunday fully vocal behind the team as i have done for over forty years and hope that we beat Utd.
I also never said i knew it all but instead gave an opinion on an open forum bear in mind that i thought leicester have done enough to have the title in the bag.
I should of realised that an over reaction From someone very hormonal like you just because i can recognise that a rival team has done better than us thus far they even beat us at home for fucks sake, and in my opinion have probably won it.
Yes of course things can and have happened but in all honesty really can we see them falling apart now and having to lose either nearly as many games as they have lost so far this season or drop that amount of points, it just isnt going to happen so instead Im looking forward to next year in a positive light.

oooh so friendly

that's your opinion, perhaps putting "in my opinion" when posting instead of "they have it in the bag" which is more of a statement that's not correct until its in the bag. yes they beat us and are above us, but that's not always the case cause Arsenal beat them twice but they are 11pts behind.

in my opinion Leicester will win it, but its not impossible that in their last 6 matches they might lose 1 game, and they might draw 3. Allardyce since he took over at Sunderland he has lost 4 home games all 1-0, and none since Man C at the start of February, but because Leicester have been so good this season it doesn't guarantee they will role them over just because of the positions in the table (Tottenham 1 v Newcastle 2). they are not guaranteed any win for the rest of the season, just as we are not guaranteed, but even though I don't go know due to health and financial, ive been following us for over 42 years, and until its impossible I will dream and not quit on them

 

[nailsy]

Sunderland have had four draws in a row. Hopefully they can make it five this weekend.

 

[rossdapep]

Sunderland have had four draws in a row. Hopefully they can make it five this weekend.

They're due a win then. Leicester are due a defeat

 

[deluded-yid]

Mathematically its still possible, but as @dirtyh says everybody including the OFFICIALS want Leicester to win it.
We can only hope that manure/wet spam and Sunderland can nick the points they need for european qualification/survival off them (preferably 9pts).
Then it's very much game on