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The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!

Lamelad

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May I suggest something, we seem to think the europa league will annoy us later this season but as we have no chance of top four in the league, why dont we forget the premierleague and just give everything in the cup competitions. We can just play the league as a practice, we have a young squad.

I dont mind us being shit in the league this season but we need a Cup at the end of it.
 

jurgen

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The fact is we have a disjointed squad which is heavily reliant on kids.

Despite that, we have still managed to outplay a lot of teams this season.

What we lack in the final third should soon be fixed by Levy in the transfer market.

I really am not worried about our Manager nor do I think they make as much impact as our player recruitment strategy. Members are quick to blame Managers for poor football but it's the players who go out and perform on the pitch.

If you want to blame something look to the fact we have played with only 1 striker in our squad for the first 4 games.

A lot was made by certain supporters about how we barely used our backup strikers last year as proof that it was ok to start with zero backup forwards on the bench. Unfortunately it looks like Kane is knackered already, presumably not only due to his England u-21 duties but also because he played over 50 games last season for us. So while it looked ok on paper that's an over-reliance on a kid and something that simply must be addressed in the next 2 days - lest we burn out one of our best prospects in years. Press are also already talking up his poor goal return of late so the hack scum will circle soon around Harry unless we give our manager another option up top to share the load.
 

Nebby

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Kane's problem is that this season comes with huge expectations. He looks like a confident young man, so hopefully he will be able to cope. Needs to score soon though, as the pressure will only get greater.
 

Damian99

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Kane's problem is that this season comes with huge expectations. He looks like a confident young man, so hopefully he will be able to cope. Needs to score soon though, as the pressure will only get greater.

No better team at present to get the run going than Sunderland.
 

Black

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So we ended up with the worst of the three because of the owner... I guess he can have no complaints of it fails.
 

whitesocks

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Would it be fair to say we saw for the time 1st a proper MP team against Everton?
All were hard working and well disciplined. There were no baggage player like Soldado, Lamela, or Adebayor, plus we looked defensively solid for most of the game, with our 9 defensive players.

MP has asked that we review his approach after 10 games this season, and that is fair enough.
He and this set of players are likeable enough, and if we stack some points on the board, then I do not have a problem with his philosophy of kids + hard work.
 

tttcowan

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I have a problem with his style of football. And I think we should be doing things differently which would require a different approach from the top and much more of a revolution rather than evolution of how a club like Tottenham should approach the problem of trying to win a game of football. However, the chances of this happening are incredibly slim and changes at the top would more likely bring total disaster. With this in mind under no circumstances do I think we should sack him baring being dragged into a true relegation battle. Seriously, at this stage, what would be the point.

Even if he "loses the dressing room" he should be given the time and support to resolve the issues... And I say again, I don't think his style of football suits spurs nor is it the best way to be competitive with the tier of clubs above where we are now.
 

robhumphreys

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It would be mad to even think about getting rid of the manager. I don't like the system we are currently playing but we must give him a chance. My biggest moan is that we never finish getting players in until the last few days and have to play catch up every year.
 

ginola99

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If people think this is an over night job then they're in La La Land.

We're in position of incredible youth and a loser's mentality. To say Rome wasn't built in a day would be an understatement, I think that we need someone to be in the healm for at least 5 years for us to be what we want.
 

striebs

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Poch is nothing more than a caretaker manager whilst the stadium is being built .

His job is to keep within the budget and keep us in the Premier League .

Soon as the stadium is finished someone new will be brought in .
 

Barry Mead

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The idea that Joe Lewis made Levy hire Poch against his wishes is beyond the most basic levels of logic.

That's some serious mental gymnastics to allow yourself to bash Poch while not laying the blame at Levys feet for hiring him.

It's not really if Lewis has been unhappy with the turnover of managers and so makes a suggestion. When you are the main shareholder the chairman has to listen. Then there was the supposed addition to the board rumoured to be put there to keep their eye on Levy.

It's certainly possible that Lewis doesn't have quite the faith in Levy as he once did, however the trouble is you never really know and rumours will spring up regardless but against a background of so many managerial changes and so many players coming and going in short order then rumours will flourish
 

Barry Mead

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Poch is nothing more than a caretaker manager whilst the stadium is being built .

His job is to keep within the budget and keep us in the Premier League .

Soon as the stadium is finished someone new will be brought in .


I don't really go along with that, it might be easy to make the assumption that the club want a manager prepared to bring a few youngsters forward to save us money in the transfer market, but that flies in the face of the fact that our net spend has been flat of given us a profit for about 5 years now.

Then there's two other revenue issues, clearly CL qualification gives a financial boost and attractive and successful football will draw fans towards taking season tickets and boxes at the new stadium

There's no way we'll sell the corporate boxes if we aren't entertaining and pretty successful, just being still in the PL won't cut it and the last thing Levy will want is to not be able to fill the stadium the first season. The best way to do that would be to have CL football that season

Then there's the possibility it goes wrong we are struggling and he's sacked and another manager has to come in anyway, because Levy simply couldn't risk relegation

No I think they hoped he'd be able to do a decent job and get us into a top four place, I doubt he'll be around if he hasn't been able to demonstrate that he could do it, equally if he has managed it they aren't likely to sack him
 

Barry Mead

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Alleged being the key word. One ITK passing something along doesn't make it fact.


That's true but neither does it make any other option a fact, it's certainly plausible though and at the end of the day the owner is the guy who gets to call the shots. Lewis seemingly took a back seat for a number of years but there have been a number of rumours in the last couple of years that that was changing. Again rumours and rumours are no more facts than the other options, but you have to think they are a possibility rather than dismiss them out of hand simply because they aren't a fact
 

Barry Mead

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It's a fantastic well balanced young squad. Seriously, if we get that final piece in place we are set for years


I actually don't think it's a well balanced squad and I think we are short more than a final piece, I actually see us moving away from a balanced squad, over reliance on youth and energy, a lack of skill, experience, character and leadership, far too much emphasis on attacking play and shape and far too little on defensive stability
 

walworthyid

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I actually don't think it's a well balanced squad and I think we are short more than a final piece, I actually see us moving away from a balanced squad, over reliance on youth and energy, a lack of skill, experience, character and leadership, far too much emphasis on attacking play and shape and far too little on defensive stability
There's no doubt we are short in some areas but I think our squad is actually becoming more balanced. Got rid of surplus players, brought in young and hungry additions.

We've got good experience across the back 5 with reasonable options as backup.

I agree we need some experience in the middle and another striker. But overall I think we've got some really exciting players coming through as well as those that we've brought in. Pritchard, son, njie, dier, Alli. Bentaleb Mason and kane are developing nicely too.

Things are looking up imo
 
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