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mattspur1

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He really needed to give the fans what most of them wanted when he sacked Conte, which was Poch. He appointed Stellini much to everyone's surprise which also failed.

His position will become impossible if Poch succeeds at Chelsea. It would be unforgivable in a lot of our fans eyes.
 

Ginola+Tonic

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Levy being outed and slaughtered in the media and everywhere else is a good thing.

He has to significantly react, that’s what I’m clinging onto.
 

GMI

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To be fair to Levy for a (brief) minute if the club really think Poch is the wrong choice then they need to stick with that stance even if it is a bad look with him going to Chelsea. I wouldn’t want them to buckle and try to get Poch just to appease the, understandably, annoyed fan base.

However it puts more pressure on him getting the right man in now.
 

mattspur1

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To be fair to Levy for a (brief) minute if the club really think Poch is the wrong choice then they need to stick with that stance even if it is a bad look with him going to Chelsea. I wouldn’t want them to buckle and try to get Poch just to appease the, understandably, annoyed fan base.

However it puts more pressure on him getting the right man in now.
It certainly does however for me, they have to back the right man this time. There can be no more excuses.
 

Gingernut

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Just wondering where all the Levy defenders are today? Seems to be very quiet....maybe they have changed their minds after yesterday's debacle.
 

Gspurs11

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Heard Levy is doing an interview with SpursTV over the coming days. No idea what it's about so you can fill in the blanks
 

wiggo24

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Heard Levy is doing an interview with SpursTV over the coming days. No idea what it's about so you can fill in the blanks

It'll be another promise to get a new manager with "Spurs DNA", surrounded by thinly veiled, patronizing chat about how money doesn't equal success and how new state run clubs are ruining football.
 

Rob

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Heard Levy is doing an interview with SpursTV over the coming days. No idea what it's about so you can fill in the blanks
Courtesy of ChatGPT (it added the Harry Kane question without any prompting!):

Interviewer: Mr. Levy, can you tell us about the process of finding a new manager for Tottenham?

Daniel Levy: Before we get into that, let me first talk about our season ticket waiting list. We are very proud to have such a passionate fanbase and demand for tickets is incredibly high. Our waiting list continues to grow and we encourage all fans to sign up as soon as possible to avoid missing out on the action at our state-of-the-art stadium.

Interviewer: Yes, the stadium is certainly impressive. But what about the manager situation?

Daniel Levy: Of course, the manager position is an important one and we are taking our time to ensure we find the right person for the job. But let's not forget the importance of our fans in all of this. We want to provide them with the best possible experience and that includes securing their seats at our matches. Our season ticket waiting list is a testament to the passion of our fans and we will continue to prioritize their needs.

Interviewer: Okay, but fans are also concerned about the direction of the team and the recent performances. Can you address that?

Daniel Levy: I understand fans have concerns, but I want to emphasize the importance of securing your spot on the season ticket waiting list. By doing so, you guarantee yourself access to some of the most exciting football in the world. As for the team, we are always striving for success and I have no doubt that we will continue to improve in the coming seasons.

Interviewer: But surely finding a new manager is a crucial step in that process?

Daniel Levy: It is, but let's not forget the thousands of fans eagerly awaiting their chance to secure a season ticket. We have made significant investments in our stadium and the surrounding area, and we want to ensure that our fans are able to enjoy the benefits of those investments. By signing up for our season ticket waiting list, you are not only securing your spot at matches, but also becoming part of the Tottenham Hotspur family.

Interviewer: I see. But fans are also concerned about the potential departure of key players like Harry Kane. Can you comment on that?

Daniel Levy: Again, I understand fans have concerns, but I want to stress the importance of securing your spot on the season ticket waiting list. We have a world-class team and we are committed to retaining our top talent. By signing up for our waiting list, you can be sure that you won't miss a moment of the action.

Interviewer: Thank you for your time, Mr. Levy.

Daniel Levy: Thank you, and remember to sign up for our season ticket waiting list today!
 

PaulM

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To be fair to Levy for a (brief) minute if the club really think Poch is the wrong choice then they need to stick with that stance even if it is a bad look with him going to Chelsea. I wouldn’t want them to buckle and try to get Poch just to appease the, understandably, annoyed fan base.

However it puts more pressure on him getting the right man in now.
Is there a right man though? Can any manager really succeed at our club? Are we in danger of looking for some sort of Messiah when, until something changes at the top, every fella who walks into the Tottenham job will leave with their career tarnished and a nice big severance cheque because the people at the top make it impossible to succeed.

I'm not anti-ENIC or anti-Levy by any stretch. He, and they, have done some great things for us. But they've hit their ceiling and they've now managed to create a mess that really does call into question their basic competence.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Heard Levy is doing an interview with SpursTV over the coming days. No idea what it's about so you can fill in the blanks
Will be a puff piece with him trying to quell fans rage before the Utd game no doubt. He will try to explain that despite mistakes being made none of them where actually made by him so we shouldn't be angry with him and why we just need to suck it up, continue to pay for tickets and trust in the process because next season will be different. After all we have the best stadium and training facilities in the world.
 

tommo84

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Will be a puff piece with him trying to quell fans rage before the Utd game no doubt. He will try to explain that despite mistakes being made none of them where actually made by him so we shouldn't be angry with him and why we just need to suck it up, continue to pay for tickets and trust in the process because next season will be different. After all we have the best stadium and training facilities in the world.
Yep, probably with a lot of chat about Scott Munn’s new role and responsibilities so that Levy can pass the buck to him when we’re back here in 18 months* time.

*18 months may be optimistic.
 

n5yiddo

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I've resorted to writing little ditties cos i just can't deal with the anger i feel

this one to the tune of do the hokey cokey, doesn't quite scan or rhyme...and lacks swear words.

When you put your oar in here, oar in there
in, out, in, out, you shake it all about
The boat capsizes and you get a pay rise
that's what it's all about!

Oh do the Daniel Levy, let's do the Daniel Levy
That's what it's all about!

When you quick fix here, quick fix there
Appoint the new messiah to get some silverware
It all goes wrong and then you pay him off
That’s what it’s all about!

Oh do the Daniel…….

When you screw it up here, screw it up there
Re-assure the faithful that you’re not to blame
Then give yourself another chance to do it again
That’s what it’s all about!

Oh do the…….
 

Nebby

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Is there a right man though? Can any manager really succeed at our club? Are we in danger of looking for some sort of Messiah when, until something changes at the top, every fella who walks into the Tottenham job will leave with their career tarnished and a nice big severance cheque because the people at the top make it impossible to succeed.

I'm not anti-ENIC or anti-Levy by any stretch. He, and they, have done some great things for us. But they've hit their ceiling and they've now managed to create a mess that really does call into question their basic competence.

Of course there is. There are plenty of managers and coaches out there who have created teams that play the kind of football we want to see - and without relying on silly budgets. Just look at how Unai Emery has improved Aston Villa through coaching. Individuals have improved, the team as a whole has improved, and the vast majority of the squad were there when he took over from Gerrard. A proper coach could easily transform this squad.
 

PaulM

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Of course there is. There are plenty of managers and coaches out there who have created teams that play the kind of football we want to see - and without relying on silly budgets. Just look at how Unai Emery has improved Aston Villa through coaching. Individuals have improved, the team as a whole has improved, and the vast majority of the squad were there when he took over from Gerrard. A proper coach could easily transform this squad.
Depends what the barometer of success is. We just want good football and to be around the European places, we can get that fairly easily I reckon. That's pretty much what Jol was doing almost 20 years ago.

If we also want to be pushing for top 4 and winning a pot or two, I think my question becomes very relevant.
 

YB123

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I'd imagine Mason will be in for the United game.

But whats the betting for the next few days we get "spurs stepping up pursuit for Nagelsmann" "levy doing all to get Nagelsmann" "Levy leading the charge for ambitious Nagelsmann appointment". Just to try and reduce the toxicity Thursday.
 

makeveli

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20 years of failure ok his built a stadium but has failed the fans failed, that team is bad because of his management , his toxic management structure and ego and failed this club
 

Duke of Northumberland

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You're missing the point mate, who oversaw the decisions to hire certain DofF's and scouts or lack thereof or different managers with different ideas or blocked player sales to hold out for more money or dragged feet on incomings and went for cheaper alternatives resulting in a mess of a strategy (no plan) and therefore a squad ending up like it is the last 3-4 years?! (not good enough and vastly devoid of confidence or a plan or any direction or motivation).

Yes the players aren't good enough but look at the bigger picture please.

Most of your list of errors earlier are all with 100% hindisight, Mr Fishcake. We all wanted Conte at the time, we all welcomed Fab at the time (no we didn't know about the investigation coming up- see my prior posts in that thread), most of us were guiltily excited about Mourinho. We thought these guys would just get us over the line with what was left of the Poch cohort of players. With hindsight they were bad appointments, although I think Fab has laid some worthwhile foundations by the sounds of it. Fair to say Poch was ground down and not supported enough, but its not clear what he wanted and whether the money was there.

As for all the interfering and not backing, you have to remember this is all second/third hand hearsay and again stories have been embellished over time. Conte always said he was happy with what the club did after every window. We even got an expensive wing-back in Porro in January when Conte wouldn't even extend. The non-backing argument is just not credible. I'm glad we kept some players, like HK, others should have gone. Hindsight.

Some fans are just not happy and want change in case its better (Brexit anyone?). The bigger picture, as you say, is competition is intensified and the strategy is raise income through the stadium, as for the style and scouting strategy etc. we'll see what happens next with Munn taking on Fab's innovations and who the manager will be.
 

Duke of Northumberland

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To be fair to Levy for a (brief) minute if the club really think Poch is the wrong choice then they need to stick with that stance even if it is a bad look with him going to Chelsea. I wouldn’t want them to buckle and try to get Poch just to appease the, understandably, annoyed fan base.

However it puts more pressure on him getting the right man in now.

I've got to say it will test my support for the status quo if Poch goes there and succeeds. I do think you're right its better if they don't do it for the clamour.

I can only think they don't want Poch because of the NDombele/LoCelso/not Fernandez judgements and actually how many of his transfer picks were successful? I think there were a lot of 'club signings'. His strength was developing young players that were given to him and maybe they think that's not enough now.
 
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