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UncleBuck

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Updated for Paratici, Conte sacking and replacement (see bold)
Post in thread 'The ousting of Daniel Levy' https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-ousting-of-daniel-levy.151927/post-8284137

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:
Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
First club to go two windows with no signings
Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
Sacks Poch
Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
Signs us up for Super League
Hires Paratici despite knowing their were investigations against him and Juve under way
Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
10 league games later sacks Nuno
Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
Doesn't back Conte
Paratici banned from football worldwide for 30 months & potentially will get a jail sentence.
Paratici released a video for the club the day before the ban was made worldwide.
AND he's still employed by our club who said they were surprised his ban was extended worldwide.
Sacked Conte and we are the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
Replaced Conte with his no.2 whose only managerial role lasted 5 months in 2017. Also kept on same full backroom team which appears to be a first in premier League.
At the end of the 2022/23 season temporary/ interim managers will have been in charge for 9% of all games since ENIC became majority owners.

One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free
Absolutely nailed it sir 👏
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Well obviously you know that all revenues the club make are invested back into the team and that Levy doesn't pocket anything other than a salary which under 1% of turnover.

Brighton may have brought in a manager straight away and in this case it seems to have worked well for them, but Potter wasn't sacked because the team was underperforming, he was poached and the team were playing well, so De Zerbi walked into a team doing well and full of confidence. It's much easier to deal with that situation rather than to go into a club after the previous manager has been sacked and the team is struggling and confidence is on the floor. When we sacked Poch didn't Jose take over pretty much immediately? When Poch was sacked fans were crying out for a proven winner and Levy went out and got one of the biggest winners out there.

Regarding Mudryk, Arsenal failed to secure their top target so quickly moved on to one further down their list. When this happens to us it's deemed a massive failure by Levy to back the manager but when it happens somewhere else its to be commended as the club having a back up plan? Behave.

Yes we've hired some managers that haven't worked out as we would have liked, but show me a club who hasn't. We've signed others that have worked really well. The only appointment I recall fans not backing at the time was Nuno and he was appointed by Paratici.

We'll never really know what happened when Jose was sacked before the cup final but we were on an appalling fun of form and Jose was stinking out the place.

I think that, in general, we are very well run. Sure, we're going through a difficult period right now but if you take Levy's reign as a whole, the transformation of the club on the football front is pretty incredible and if we were told back in 2001 that in the next 20 years we'd be rubbing shoulders with the best clubs in the country, have the best stadium and training ground, had a couple of title pushes, play regular Champion League football and even got to the final I think most of us would have been happy with that and that's before you take into account the financially doped clubs which have emerged in that time.

Whenever you look at the short term position of a club it's always going to be boom or bust, but if you look over the longer term there has been sustained growth.
It’s called succession planning, irrelevant if a manager is poached for doing well or sacked for not a well run club should always be looking at what next and have a number of options lined up so they’re not scrambling last minute.
 

RELISYS

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As I've said before, Brighton lose Potter and straight away in comes De Zerbi, Arsenal don't give in to Mudryk's crazy wage demands and they move straight onto securing Trossard.
You keep saying this and yet ignore the fact that we have also done this.

We get rid of Pochettino and Nuno, In comes Mourinho and Conte straight away.

We failed to sign Tomiyasu and moved on to Emerson, We failed to sign Luis Diaz and moved on to Kulsevski, We failed to get Gabriel Jesus and moved onto Richarlison, We failed to sign Bastoni and moved on to Lenglet.

Arsenal failed to sign Dusan Vlahovic last January, who did they get?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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You keep saying this and yet ignore the fact that we have also done this.

We get rid of Pochettino and Nuno, In comes Mourinho and Conte straight away.

We failed to sign Tomiyasu and moved on to Emerson, We failed to sign Luis Diaz and moved on to Kulsevski, We failed to get Gabriel Jesus and moved onto Richarlison, We failed to sign Bastoni and moved on to Lenglet.

Arsenal failed to sign Dusan Vlahovic last January, who did they get?
A lot of this just isn’t true but I also said when we do react we make the wrong decisions which also comes back to a clearly aligned philosophy and plan.
 

RELISYS

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A lot of this just isn’t true but I also said when we do react we make the wrong decisions which also comes back to a clearly aligned philosophy and plan.
It's all true. And the decisions we make are based on the circumstances at the time. Having a philosophy and plan does not mean you have to stick to it rigidly. Sometimes you need to adapt it. You can have a plan to help you progress from a bottom half club to a top half club, like Brighton, if you want to progress beyond that you are going to need to adapt it.

If Levy/Club never had a plan we would never had progressed as much as we have done. But Levy has struggled to take us to that next level, which is were we find ourselves now.
 

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12000 plus now and the latest signature was from Harry Kane
 

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Albertbarich

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Does anyone with Athletic access have the survey results in full they can share?

A sample of 4000 is quite a sizeable one and the headline figures they discussed on View from the lane were interesting.
 

Darth Vega

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Does anyone with Athletic access have the survey results in full they can share?

A sample of 4000 is quite a sizeable one and the headline figures they discussed on View from the lane were interesting.
There isn't that much more to it than what they discussed on their pod but here it is:

There’s a huge amount going on at Tottenham Hotspur, with uncertainty surrounding the new head coach, the managing director of football and the general direction of the club.

We asked for your views on Spurs’ most pressing issues, and almost 4,000 of you responded.

It’s a considerable sample size, and highlights that Julian Nagelsmann — rather than Mauricio Pochettino — is your preferred choice as Antonio Conte’s successor, how little trust there is in Daniel Levy when it comes to on-pitch matters (especially when compared to off-pitch ones), and an overwhelming disagreement with the decision not to suspend Fabio Paratici when he was banned in Italy.

These are the results of The Athletic’s Tottenham survey.


Starting with the head coach vacancy, 86 per cent of those surveyed either agreed or strongly agreed with the decision to sack Conte.

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Concerningly, the most popular response (41.6 per cent) to the decision to temporarily replace him with Cristian Stellini was indifference, reflecting the apathy that is creeping in at Spurs as they stagger towards the end of the season. At least the next best was a positive response, with 28.3 per cent agreeing with the decision.

As for Conte’s permanent successor, Nagelsmann was the most popular choice (48 per cent), followed by Pochettino (30.4 per cent) and then Brighton & Hove Albion’s Roberto De Zerbi (10.2 per cent). Spurs host Brighton on Saturday, incidentally. Other suggestions for the next Spurs manager included Ted Lasso, Tim Sherwood and View From The Lane host Danny Kelly.

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Regarding the ongoing ‘Spurs DNA’ vs ‘win now’ debate, more than half (50.6 per cent) said that style of play was what mattered most when picking a new manager. Above engendering a sense of togetherness (25.9 per cent) and winning trophies (23.5 per cent).

0405_SpursSurvey10-1.png


When it comes to how the club is being run, there was broad dissatisfaction in the responses. As many as 82.2 per cent were either unhappy or very unhappy with Levy’s running of the club, and 79.7 per cent were less happy with the running of club than they were a month ago.

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An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters, contrasted with 57.5 per cent of respondents saying they trusted Levy with off-field matters.

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More than three quarters (75.7 per cent), meanwhile, disagreed with the club keeping Paratici in his role when he had been banned from Italian football by the country’s FA in January.

0405_SpursSurvey4.png


Fewer than half (42.3 per cent) felt that Spurs were punching above their weight as a club, though a resounding 83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.

0405_SpursSurvey6.png


One decision that will prove popular is the club announcing that they will freeze season ticket prices for 2023-24. Our poll closed shortly before Wednesday’s announcement and had only 5.9 per cent of respondents saying they would be either understanding or very understanding of a rise in prices.

Clearly, there are issues at the club that need resolving. A good result against Brighton on Saturday would at least lift the mood in the short term.
 

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Albertbarich

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There isn't that much more to it than what they discussed on their pod but here it is:

There’s a huge amount going on at Tottenham Hotspur, with uncertainty surrounding the new head coach, the managing director of football and the general direction of the club.

We asked for your views on Spurs’ most pressing issues, and almost 4,000 of you responded.

It’s a considerable sample size, and highlights that Julian Nagelsmann — rather than Mauricio Pochettino — is your preferred choice as Antonio Conte’s successor, how little trust there is in Daniel Levy when it comes to on-pitch matters (especially when compared to off-pitch ones), and an overwhelming disagreement with the decision not to suspend Fabio Paratici when he was banned in Italy.

These are the results of The Athletic’s Tottenham survey.


Starting with the head coach vacancy, 86 per cent of those surveyed either agreed or strongly agreed with the decision to sack Conte.

0405_SpursSurvey5.png


Concerningly, the most popular response (41.6 per cent) to the decision to temporarily replace him with Cristian Stellini was indifference, reflecting the apathy that is creeping in at Spurs as they stagger towards the end of the season. At least the next best was a positive response, with 28.3 per cent agreeing with the decision.

As for Conte’s permanent successor, Nagelsmann was the most popular choice (48 per cent), followed by Pochettino (30.4 per cent) and then Brighton & Hove Albion’s Roberto De Zerbi (10.2 per cent). Spurs host Brighton on Saturday, incidentally. Other suggestions for the next Spurs manager included Ted Lasso, Tim Sherwood and View From The Lane host Danny Kelly.

CORRECT-SURVEY-e1680790669971.png


Regarding the ongoing ‘Spurs DNA’ vs ‘win now’ debate, more than half (50.6 per cent) said that style of play was what mattered most when picking a new manager. Above engendering a sense of togetherness (25.9 per cent) and winning trophies (23.5 per cent).

0405_SpursSurvey10-1.png


When it comes to how the club is being run, there was broad dissatisfaction in the responses. As many as 82.2 per cent were either unhappy or very unhappy with Levy’s running of the club, and 79.7 per cent were less happy with the running of club than they were a month ago.

SURVEY-3.png


An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters, contrasted with 57.5 per cent of respondents saying they trusted Levy with off-field matters.

0405_SpursSurvey7.png


More than three quarters (75.7 per cent), meanwhile, disagreed with the club keeping Paratici in his role when he had been banned from Italian football by the country’s FA in January.

0405_SpursSurvey4.png


Fewer than half (42.3 per cent) felt that Spurs were punching above their weight as a club, though a resounding 83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.

0405_SpursSurvey6.png


One decision that will prove popular is the club announcing that they will freeze season ticket prices for 2023-24. Our poll closed shortly before Wednesday’s announcement and had only 5.9 per cent of respondents saying they would be either understanding or very understanding of a rise in prices.

Clearly, there are issues at the club that need resolving. A good result against Brighton on Saturday would at least lift the mood in the short term.
Thanks

Does anyone else think these results pretty much match their own views. They're certainly really accurate to mine.
 

Spursberg

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Just seen on Spurs’ Facebook account, that our next 5 Home games have been sold out …

As has been echoed previously, us fans will remain part of the problem.
Was about to post this myself, we do not have a manager and we are so tired of this shit, still we have sold out the stadium, this tells you exactly why Levy have it very comfortable in his seat and exactly why he will keep running the business as he has previously done.

There is no need for dramatic changes when the money keep coming in, and from an accountant point of view, why should there? Better to focus on the investment of property or selling entertainment around the stadium.
Yes it will bring money to the Club, but we will still buy 2 mediocre players instead of 1 top player as long as Levy runs the business, it is ingrained in his accountant head
 

longtimespur

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Was about to post this myself, we do not have a manager and we are so tired of this shit, still we have sold out the stadium, this tells you exactly why Levy have it very comfortable in his seat and exactly why he will keep running the business as he has previously done.

There is no need for dramatic changes when the money keep coming in, and from an accountant point of view, why should there? Better to focus on the investment of property or selling entertainment around the stadium.
Yes it will bring money to the Club, but we will still buy 2 mediocre players instead of 1 top player as long as Levy runs the business, it is ingrained in his accountant head
The only option to the last paragraph is that season ticket holders,who can afford to, don't put their seats up for sale so that the actual point can be more visible.
If I could afford a season ticket then I would do so but I'm just an old git living off his government pension. :(
 

LukaKranjcar

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Anyone got the full report?


Tottenham Hotspur are set to appoint Scott Munn as chief football officer.

The Australian is currently chief executive of City Football Group China, having previously held the same position at Melbourne City FC.

A move to the Premier League club would be his first role in European football, with his remit also taking in the club’s academy and women’s team.


Tottenham are seeking to boost their off-field staff and improve the structure of their football operations.

Fabio Paratici recently stepped back from his role as managing director of football pending the outcome of his appeal against a worldwide ban from football.

Performance director, Gretar Steinsson, and head of football strategy, Andy Scoulding, are currently helping to fill the void left by Paratici.

Paratici, pending his appeal, would report to Munn, with the Australian adding a further level of experience and expertise.

Manager Antonio Conte left the club by mutual consent last month and his former assistant, Cristian Stellini, has been appointed until the end of the season.
 

George94

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Wow.

Taking charge of "all footballing departments" sounds pretty significant...

I'd assume Paratici is going soon and Levy is now (hopefully) fully stepping back for footballing decisions?!

I guess Scott Munn would now be heavily involved with appointing our next manager.

Daniel Levy, Chairman: “Scott has a unique and broad experience of running sporting organisations at the highest level and will take responsibility for the leadership and management of our football activities to instil best practice both on and off the pitch.”
 
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