The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[NEVILLEB]

This pathway to a lack of trophies has been obvious for 10 years.

Swapping Managers hasn’t ever been the solution. A total lack of football knowledge and instinct is the problem combined with an arrogance and ruthless lack of accountability. Player acquisition has occasionally been good but mostly scattergun and based on potential sell on profits rather than what we needed.

The only reason he’s got away with it is that Tottenham fans were beaten down from the Alan Sugar years.

 

[felmani26]

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

The same tweet three times in just over 20 posts. Levy has been here just over 20 years.

Spooky

 

[stevel]

By most metrics from a footballing perspective, Levy has failed.

It's really obvious that some fans on here weren't following Spurs through the '90s, immediately before Levy took over. If they had they'd realise that, in terms of League position/qualifying for Europe and Champions League, Levy has been a huge success.

I'm not one who subscribes to the idea that winning things is the goal. A team that finishes top 4 has usually consistently played better, more enjoyable football to watch during the season than a team that wins a cup and finishes mid-table, as Spurs did on occasions in the 90s. Under Levy Spurs have built to the point where we are currently finishing top 4 more consistently than any time since the 60s, and that in the age of oil money.

 

[Japhet]

Genuine question - what do you think it would take to make us title challengers? What should DL be doing that he's not doing now?

Appoint the right DoF and stay the fuck out of his way. Paratici was close in that he got us some good players, but his managerial appointments were dreadful. Even then, Levy stuck his oar in on transfer business where Paratici was doing a good job. Getting the right DoF now seems absolutely essential now that Paratici's position seems pretty untenable.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

What should DL be doing that he's not doing now?

Working elsewhere

 

[felmani26]

The same tweet three times in just over 20 posts. Levy has been here just over 20 years.

Spooky

Sorry boss man, didn't see the previous posts!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Sorry boss man, didn't see the previous posts!

I wasn't having a pop

 

[CheeseGromit]

The article is interesting.

Money changed football from being a sport to an investment business and therefore attracted a different type of owner. Gone are the passionate football lovin chairman and income executive business people looking to better their financial position.

Although its not always just about cash generation sometimes its about "advertising" Some of the Arab ownership is about legitimising regimes.

All the criticism about Spurs yet its conceded in the article that they are one of the few clubs with a plan

The conundrum is how to balance new wave football with old fashion passion for the game

I am absolutely against ticket price rises but post COVID the world has gone mad and everything is very very much more expensive. Inflation 10+ % What is expected Is football different, doesnt have the extra expenses If so why Football isnt outside the economics just because its passionate pastime. And here in lays the problems,

 

[mil1lion]

Money is not the issue. Its who we spend it on and always has been. Fact is we have been far better with a director than without one. If we had someone like Paratici back when we made 0 signings we would have got players in. Even if he had no money he would do some creative deals, loans and player swaps etc. Things even started out well with Paratici until Levy started to get involved yet again. We don't even need need new owners or to get rid of Levy completely. We just need Levy put of football and a new DOF to take over the football side. Conte was Levys manager, Paratici is his director, get rid of them and Levy to really make change.

 

[danielneeds]

Money is not the issue. Its who we spend it on and always has been. Fact is we have been far better with a director than without one. If we had someone like Paratici back when we made 0 signings we would have got players in. Even if he had no money he would do some creative deals, loans and player swaps etc. Things even started out well with Paratici until Levy started to get involved yet again. We don't even need need new owners or to get rid of Levy completely. We just need Levy put of football and a new DOF to take over the football side. Conte was Levys manager, Paratici is his director, get rid of them and Levy to really make change.

Levy will never be able to keep his nose out of football matters though. He’s too much of a control freak and too long in the tooth now to change. Essentially, the whole club is shaped in his image now and will be until he sells up.

 

[mil1lion]

Levy will never be able to keep his nose out of football matters though. He’s too much of a control freak and too long in the tooth now to change. Essentially, the whole club is shaped in his image now and will be until he sells up.

You're probably right, I don't know if we can stop him involving himself. Only Mrs Lewis could possibly make that change I guess. I don't know it works but as long as Levy has a stake in the club he'll always have power I suppose.

 

[rossdapep]

It's really obvious that some fans on here weren't following Spurs through the '90s, immediately before Levy took over. If they had they'd realise that, in terms of League position/qualifying for Europe and Champions League, Levy has been a huge success.

I'm not one who subscribes to the idea that winning things is the goal. A team that finishes top 4 has usually consistently played better, more enjoyable football to watch during the season than a team that wins a cup and finishes mid-table, as Spurs did on occasions in the 90s. Under Levy Spurs have built to the point where we are currently finishing top 4 more consistently than any time since the 60s, and that in the age of oil money.

Well i lived through all of that so you're wrong

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Well i lived through all of that so you're wrong

so did I and the 80's the plus end of the 70's and his right we have finished consistently higher in the League than at anytime I have been watching them - even last season we were all giving large about finishing 4th

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

It's really obvious that some fans on here weren't following Spurs through the '90s, immediately before Levy took over. If they had they'd realise that, in terms of League position/qualifying for Europe and Champions League, Levy has been a huge success.

I'm not one who subscribes to the idea that winning things is the goal. A team that finishes top 4 has usually consistently played better, more enjoyable football to watch during the season than a team that wins a cup and finishes mid-table, as Spurs did on occasions in the 90s. Under Levy Spurs have built to the point where we are currently finishing top 4 more consistently than any time since the 60s, and that in the age of oil money.

That's great if you can feel satisfied with filling up the trophy cabinet with print-outs of the league table at the end each season, but football is about winning competitions, or at the very least trying to. Lately, we've treated cup competitions and European games with utter contempt.

 

[Stamford]

so did I and the 80's the plus end of the 70's and his right we have finished consistently higher in the League than at anytime I have been watching them - even last season we were all giving large about finishing 4th

We gave it large because it was above arsenal md in dramatic fashion. If the aim is just to finish top four fine. State it and change the prices of the season ticket to reflect it. Let's stop pretending as a club we are trying to win because our actions say otherwise

 

[ralphs bald spot]

We gave it large because it was above arsenal md in dramatic fashion. If the aim is just to finish top four fine. State it and change the prices of the season ticket to reflect it. Let's stop pretending as a club we are trying to win because our actions say otherwise

but you know that's the case before the season starts ? you are aiming to finish top 4 and a cups a bonus - for years we went along and dreamed of getting into Europe - I have been going since the 70's and only 3 or 4 times have we really made a title challenge in that time - cups it would be nice to make a more of an effort

 

[NEVILLEB]

It's really obvious that some fans on here weren't following Spurs through the '90s, immediately before Levy took over. If they had they'd realise that, in terms of League position/qualifying for Europe and Champions League, Levy has been a huge success.

I'm not one who subscribes to the idea that winning things is the goal. A team that finishes top 4 has usually consistently played better, more enjoyable football to watch during the season than a team that wins a cup and finishes mid-table, as Spurs did on occasions in the 90s. Under Levy Spurs have built to the point where we are currently finishing top 4 more consistently than any time since the 60s, and that in the age of oil money.

He's a success compared to Alan Sugar. The man who hired Christian Gross.

Doesn't say much does it.

One trophy in twenty years.

 

[rabbikeane]

Levy had a lot to do when he took over, 5 desperate building years. Then 2005 to 2018 have been an incredible rise which fans seem very little grateful to now. Recent years though, when Levy should have raised his game, he's started to make a lot of wrong decisions at a time that fans have reached their patience limit. Leaving it very toxic. He desperately need to change his stance towards minor trophies, be aware that the club needs a manager that want to entertain, and hire group of people that see eye to eye and pull in same direction.

 

[alfie103]

Levy had a lot to do when he took over, 5 desperate building years. Then 2005 to 2018 have been an incredible rise which fans seem very little grateful to now. Recent years though, when Levy should have raised his game, he's started to make a lot of wrong decisions at a time that fans have reached their patience limit. Leaving it very toxic. He desperately need to change his stance towards minor trophies, be aware that the club needs a manager that want to entertain, and hire group of people that see eye to eye and pull in same direction.

He hasn't done it out of the goodness of his heart, he stands to make an insane profit when ENIC sell up.